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CLX 01-06-2013 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9288276)
My CP friends and I are some of the biggest Chiefs homers on any message board.

That's OK until your homerism outplays your common sense, among a few people here that is a daily occurrence.

go bo 01-06-2013 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286938)
Yes you did. You got "specific" with intention with the mods from a quote that someone else made "JFC MODS". "JFC MODS" doesn't imply anything other than someone crying. You, however, got specific.

You'd think someone of at least average intelligence would be able to read your posts and easily ascertain the fact that you, actually, brought up "action" from mods, and then verbally "backed off" from action being taken. Likely to get the idea out that "action" should be taken.

This makes me believe that you are a passive aggressive person IRL.

oh ****, is this sportsshrink?

Easy 6 01-06-2013 01:34 PM

I'll put it this way, i want a QB chosen number one, whoever that may be... i believe thats the statement this team needs to make, not only to the fans, but to the NFL.

But... if Reid and his assumed outstanding braintrust see things differently, i'll accept it, it'll be disappointing but i'll accept it, as long as whatever they choose is successful.

Whatever they do, Just Keep Firing.

Marcellus 01-06-2013 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9288276)
My CP friends and I are some of the biggest Chiefs homers on any message board.

LMAO

Sully 01-06-2013 01:51 PM

I love seeing a good Tom Cash train wreck.

RunKC 01-06-2013 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9287416)
I don't like Murray better than Tyler Wilson, or Geno Smith, but I have been saying for a while now that he's going to go in the top half of the first round. I could see him going top ten or higher even. I'm not sure why people on this board are so down on him.

Do you think his height will hold him back from a first round grade?

King_Chief_Fan 01-06-2013 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9287455)
I don't know who you've been reading, but most people in the Geno Smith thread have been saying draft the guy and start him immediately. Cassel's ass is gone, Quinn only signed a one year deal. Stanzi's the only guy who will be around next year... I wonder who will win that training camp battle.

won't we shit if it is StanziLMAO

Chiefshrink 01-06-2013 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by go bowe (Post 9288301)
oh ****, is this sportsshrink?

You wish ROFL

htismaqe 01-06-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9288704)
Do you think his height will hold him back from a first round grade?

Aaron Murray filed his papers and was told he had a 2nd-3rd round grade. Somebody posted that here.

Reaper16 01-06-2013 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9288997)
Aaron Murray filed his papers and was told he had a 2nd-3rd round grade. Somebody posted that here.

Murray said that during the Sugar Bowl pregame broadcast.

RealSNR 01-06-2013 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal (Post 9288269)
I will only be happy if whatever decision is made at QB wins us playoff games and ultimately a Superbowl.

I don't care if that is a draft pick, free agent or trade.

If it's not a draft pick, Reid has very little time to try to make me happy. It better be BAM! out of the gate winning games like crazy.

I have ZERO patience for continuing to place hope in former late round draft pick slapdicks who never turn out to be the franchise QB the GM/HC hoped they would be.

No ****ing more.

Gadzooks 01-06-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9289018)
If it's not a draft pick, Reid has very little time to try to make me happy. It better be BAM! out of the gate winning games like crazy.

I have ZERO patience for continuing to place hope in former late round draft pick slapdicks who never turn out to be the franchise QB the GM/HC hoped they would be.

No ****ing more.

What if he picked up a back up from another team?
For example:
Seattle picked up Hasselbeck from GB (went to a SB)
Raiders picked up Gannon from KC (went to a SB)
Chargers picked up Humphries from WAS (went to a SB)
The list goes on and on...
Would that be acceptable?
Would a 9-7 record next year make you happy?

Molitoth 01-06-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 9289823)
What if he picked up a back up from another team?
For example:
Seattle picked up Hasselbeck from GB (went to a SB)
Raiders picked up Gannon from KC (went to a SB)
Chargers picked up Humphries from WAS (went to a SB)
The list goes on and on...
Would that be acceptable?

If we go with another slapdick castoff from another team like we always do, they better win right off the bat.

If we attempt to draft and develop smith or Wilson, there will be a lot more leeway.

milkman 01-06-2013 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 9289823)
What if he picked up a back up from another team?
For example:
Seattle picked up Hasselbeck from GB (went to a SB)=Loss
Raiders picked up Gannon from KC (went to a SB)=Loss
Chargers picked up Humphries from WAS (went to a SB)=Loss
The list goes on and on...
Would that be acceptable?
Would a 9-7 record next year make you happy?

Not good enough.

O.city 01-06-2013 06:49 PM

A slapdick backup gives you a 3 or 4 year window, if he's the right one.


A draft pick turns out to be the right one, you are set up for 10 plus years. Pretty easy decision IMO.

Gadzooks 01-06-2013 06:50 PM

So if you pick up a QB with the No. 1 pick in a draft that is not strong at the QB position you would be willing to accept the 2 or 3 seasons of growing pains before displaying any signs of unrest, however, if you pick up a high profile backup from another team there will be no room for growing pains?

O.city 01-06-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 9289865)
So if you pick up a QB with the No. 1 pick in a draft that is not strong at the QB position you would be willing to accept the 2 or 3 seasons of growing pains before displaying any signs of unrest, however, if you pick up a high profile backup from another team there will be no room for growing pains?

Thats why you're taking the backup right? He's already experienced and ready to go?

007 01-06-2013 06:52 PM

I would rather just run with a rookie now and live with the growing pains than limp along with another teams backup.

jd1020 01-06-2013 06:52 PM

Remember the last time we traded for a backup QB, who had more game time experience...

Gadzooks 01-06-2013 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9289867)
Thats why you're taking the backup right? He's already experienced and ready to go?

9-7 would be a good record for a team with a new QB being trained by the Walrus. I would expect less from a rookie but apparently that's not good enough..

O.city 01-06-2013 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 9289880)
9-7 would be a good record for a team with a new QB being trained by the Walrus. I would expect less from a rookie.

Less in year 1, maybe.

Year 3, nope.


Qb's acquired by trade or free agency don't win SB's anymore. 6 first or second year QB's were in the playoffs this year, IIRC.

NJChiefsFan 01-06-2013 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9289885)
Less in year 1, maybe.

Year 3, nope.


Qb's acquired by trade or free agency don't win SB's anymore. 6 first or second year QB's were in the playoffs this year, IIRC.

Yes, you remember correctly.

Nickel D 01-06-2013 07:14 PM

I can't believe there are at least 154 idjitz on this site who would want to waste the #1 pick on a rookie QB who is nowhere near the caliber of A. Luck or RG3. It would be worse than the time when the Bonkos killed off their first-round, #25 pick, by selecting Tim Tebow.

jd1020 01-06-2013 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickel D (Post 9289964)
I can't believe there are at least 154 idjitz on this site who would want to waste the #1 pick on a rookie QB who is nowhere near the caliber of A. Luck or RG3. It would be worse than the time when the Bonkos killed off their first-round, #25 pick, by selecting Tim Tebow.

Must be a TON of idiots in the NFL world then. Fairly certain that there have been a lot of QBs drafted #1 that weren't the prospect Luck was.

Molitoth 01-06-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickel D (Post 9289964)
I can't believe there are at least 154 idjitz on this site who would want to waste the #1 pick on a rookie QB who is nowhere near the caliber of A. Luck or RG3. It would be worse than the time when the Bonkos killed off their first-round, #25 pick, by selecting Tim Tebow.

Yeah, we should just keep trotting other teams scrubs until the next Andrew luck comes available in 10 years.:rolleyes:

RealSNR 01-06-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 9289823)
What if he picked up a back up from another team?
For example:
Seattle picked up Hasselbeck from GB (went to a SB)
Raiders picked up Gannon from KC (went to a SB)
Chargers picked up Humphries from WAS (went to a SB)
The list goes on and on...
Would that be acceptable?
Would a 9-7 record next year make you happy?

With another team's back up?

**** no.

Why the **** should we bother trying to develop another team's backup from a later round when we have a first round talent RIGHT THERE where we pick?

There's a reason why Kirk Cousins got picked in the 4th round. There's a reason why Matt Cassel got picked in the 7th. There's a reason why Schaub got picked in the 4th. And if they were Tom Bradys or Tony Romos, teams wouldn't both trading the away, would they?

Geno Smith is more talented than anything the current NFL backups could offer us. There is no other acceptable course of action unless Reid is DEAD SURE the guy he trades for is brilliant.

RealSNR 01-06-2013 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickel D (Post 9289964)
I can't believe there are at least 154 idjitz on this site who would want to waste the #1 pick on a rookie QB who is nowhere near the caliber of A. Luck or RG3. It would be worse than the time when the Bonkos killed off their first-round, #25 pick, by selecting Tim Tebow.

"I can't believe there are 154 idjitz on this site who would trade away all those draft picks so they could take a risk on a running QB who gets injured all the time."

-Nickel D, April 2012 just before the draft

"I can't believe there are 154 idjitz on this site who would want Matt Ryan when there's Glenn Dorsey, an absolute STUD at DT sitting right there for us."

-Nickel D, April 2008 just before the draft

"I can't believe there are 154 idjitz on this site who don't think Matt Cassel is awesome."

-Nicekl D, January 2011 after the Chiefs playoff loss to the Ravens

Exoter175 01-06-2013 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 9287408)
I made it to the end!
**** blacbob.
**** ase cert.
**** Matt Flynn who had trouble grasping Seattles system.
**** chicken dick 'Team-killer' Pioli for putting us in a situation where i have to wade through 15 pages of this shit.
And **** me for doing it.

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Originally Posted by Dinny Blues (Post 9287441)
For cryin' out loud already.

As to the quarterback situation, I think Bob Uecker said it best. "If you're gonna hit a dinger, you gotta be a swinger." I like Geno, but will be comfortable with their decision. I just want to see e serious attempt to draft and develop a QB. No retreads.

As to the quoted poster.

I'm sure that in real life you a fine, upstanding, honest, kind, decent, all-around genuine nice guy. I'm sure you have many friends, associates and aquaintences that will agree with me. I am also sure you are kind to your mother.

From where I'm sitting, it sure smells like you and BlackBob at the very least use the same aftershave.

I will share with you some of what I know about SAUTO in real life.

My first contact with him was here at CP when I finished "following the manual" shadetreeing my way through putting new head gaskets on my truck. It wouldn't start. He told me OVER THE PHONE how to fix it. I learned many things about him that day. One of which is not only can he follow the manual, he can write one that's easier to understand than the one I had that was published by the vehicle manufacturer.

I met him in person the first time when one minor little detail I overlooked when I finished the head gasket job cost me a ride in the towtruck to his shop. Two mechanic shops in town on the way to his sat empty. Not a car at the place. SAUTO's place was surrounded by cars for two or three blocks. Both lifts full and nothing but assholes and elbows. I knew I was at the right place.

He has several certs on his wall as well as the usual business stuff everybody has up there. The two reasons I can't tell you exactly what they are, are, ignorance and apathy.

I am not comfortable divulging personal info about another person. I suppose I can offer a personal opinion.SAUTO is easily one of the finest people I have ever met. There are many reasons I feel that way. One stands above all others. He has taken on a responsibility that very few have the strength or resolve to comprehend, let alone square their shoulders and do a commendable job.

As far as Tuesday at his shop, my advice is don't go. I have met MOHillbilly as well as SAUTO. My feeling is I would hate to upset either one of them. If you do meet SAUTO, show up empty handed. Anything you bring can and most likely will be put somewhere it will not fit.

Dinny

I like the ending of this, "I would hate to upset either of them".

Must be a terrifying world at 5'8 120 lbs with 4 eyes then.

Also, that bit where he had cars around for blocks, and TWO WHOLE LIFTS FULL, all I needed really. I'm officially retiring from my argument with that big sack of vagina Jason. TWO WHOLE LIFTS, ROFL.

That's all I needed. At the very least I'm expecting a 6 bay mom and pop over here, but two lifts? Wooo, must be a busy world over there. And cars surrounding him for several blocks? That was an embellishment. All of his competitors having zero cars? Embellishment. I love the ignorance here.

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Originally Posted by go bowe (Post 9288301)
oh ****, is this sportsshrink?

No its blackbob, haven't you been reading?

(not serious)

mcaj22 01-06-2013 07:38 PM

definitely 100 percent blackbob lol

Gadzooks 01-06-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9289985)
With another team's back up?

**** no.

Why the **** should we bother trying to develop another team's backup from a later round when we have a first round talent RIGHT THERE where we pick?

There's a reason why Kirk Cousins got picked in the 4th round. There's a reason why Matt Cassel got picked in the 7th. There's a reason why Schaub got picked in the 4th. And if they were Tom Bradys or Tony Romos, teams wouldn't both trading the away, would they?

Geno Smith is more talented than anything the current NFL backups could offer us. There is no other acceptable course of action unless Reid is DEAD SURE the guy he trades for is brilliant.

Would you trust him if he did? Would you allow time for growing pains, (i.e: 6-7 next season)?

I’m trying to gauge how fed up everyone is and what amount of trust will be allotted to the Walrus over the next few years.

Would you have expected either the Skins or Colts to get to the playoffs this year with Geno?

So many questions...

Reaper16 01-06-2013 07:40 PM

It's not blackbob. Before the thread got derailed from mechanic talk, he said smarter things than blackbob ever did. Even when he's wrong, Exhorter just comes across much more intelligent than blackbob. They don't have very similar posting styles. They're just not the same dude.

mcaj22 01-06-2013 07:41 PM

well then it sure is odd that two people on this forum (posting consecutively) defend the same shitty Chiefs players that everyone else hates all the time.

Exoter175 01-06-2013 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9290038)
definitely 100 percent blackbob lol

I want to punch you in the face. Legitimately. Like, there are those who I've trolled that are annoying, or douchy because I'm all up in their shit, or ones that are just defensive as **** that really aren't all that bad in real life but they keyboard warrior the **** out of the internets, then there is you.

I'd like to punch you in the face, not even hard or anything. I just want to be there to see if your shattering ego actually makes a sound, or if this is a "Does a bear shit in the woods" kind of deal.

mcaj22 01-06-2013 07:44 PM

so on top of the people you already threatened to go fisticuffs with, you continue to want to punch and throw down with even more?

maybe we can get the first annual Chiefsplanetmania I going where it will be a 20 member lumberjack match against you. Because it sure seems that's where it is headed as you continue to hand out internet threats like jellybeans

Exoter175 01-06-2013 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9290045)
It's not blackbob. Before the thread got derailed from mechanic talk, he said smarter things than blackbob ever did. Even when he's wrong, Exhorter just comes across much more intelligent than blackbob. They don't have very similar posting styles. They're just not the same dude.

Thank you.
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9290049)
well then it sure is odd that two people on this forum (posting consecutively) defend the same shitty Chiefs players that everyone else hates all the time.

SNR? Because the only Chiefs player I've really had to "defend" here is Stanzi, and SNR sackrode Stanzi much more than I recently. Then he turned around and argued with me, was quite comical.

Unless you're talking about dexter McCluster, in which case, I didn't really have to "Defend" a player that everyone else hates, because the truth is people don't hate Dexter. They expect him to do more as a 2nd round talent, but ignore the fact that he's the 2nd or 3rd highest offensive produce on our team.LMAO


When Reid drafts Geno, McCluster is going to become elevated in this offense.

DeezNutz 01-06-2013 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 9290040)
Would you trust him if he did? Would you allow time for growing pains, (i.e: 6-7 next season)?

I’m trying to gauge how fed up everyone is and what amount of trust will be allotted to the Walrus over the next few years.

Would you have expected either the Skins or Colts to get to the playoffs this year with Geno?

So many questions...

No. If he trades for someone else's backup, it's strike one.

Exoter175 01-06-2013 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9290058)
so on top of the people you already threatened to go fisticuffs with, you continue to want to punch and throw down with even more?

maybe we can get the first annual Chiefsplanetmania I going where it will be a 20 member lumberjack match against you. Because it sure seems that's where it is headed as you continue to hand out internet threats like jellybeans

Lets have us a lesson in comprehension and assumptions.

Name 1 person here, aside from you, that I've threatened to go all "Fisticuffs" with.

cdcox 01-06-2013 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 9289865)
So if you pick up a QB with the No. 1 pick in a draft that is not strong at the QB position you would be willing to accept the 2 or 3 seasons of growing pains before displaying any signs of unrest, however, if you pick up a high profile backup from another team there will be no room for growing pains?

Most QBs make a huge leap from year 1 to year 2 of playing. After that, improvement levels out in most cases (there are a few exceptions like Brees). If our QB is still floundering after year 2, I'm ready to move on at the next opportunity to draft a starter. It might take 2 or 3 cycles to find the right guy. I'm patient enough for that.

Hammock Parties 01-06-2013 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9290061)
They expect him to do more as a 2nd round talent, but ignore the fact that he's the 2nd or 3rd highest offensive produce on our team.LMAO

24 first downs for the entire year is utterly pathetic.

Any slapdick off the street could achieve what Dexter does.

The guy made a first down on 46.2% of his catches this year. Do you have any idea how awful that is?

It didn't even rank in the top 160 receivers.

Dexter is garbage.

Gadzooks 01-06-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9290082)
Most QBs make a huge leap from year 1 to year 2 of playing. After that, improvement levels out in most cases (there are a few exceptions like Brees). If our QB is still floundering after year 2, I'm ready to move on at the next opportunity to draft a starter. It might take 2 or 3 cycles to find the right guy. I'm patient enough for that.

It looks like it's going to be you and me alone on the Planet during the 3rd cycle. (Please don't mention Brees again)

SAUTO 01-06-2013 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 9290118)
It looks like it's going to be you and me alone on the Planet during the 3rd cycle.

I reckon I'd still be around
Posted via Mobile Device

Exoter175 01-06-2013 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9290087)
24 first downs for the entire year is utterly pathetic.

Any slapdick off the street could achieve what Dexter does.

The guy made a first down on 46.2% of his catches this year. Do you have any idea how awful that is?

It didn't even rank in the top 160 receivers.

Dexter is garbage.

Really? If any slapdick off the street could achieve what Dexter did, we'd be the Kansas City Slapdicks, because nobody other than Charles or Bowe did anything for us this year.

@Sauto
This message is hidden because JASONSAUTO is on your ignore list.

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O.city 01-06-2013 08:05 PM

What is it with Chiefs fans and the QB spot? It has to be a sure thing to draft, but we're ok trading or signing a guy who couldn't even start on another team.


****ing reeruned.

Hammock Parties 01-06-2013 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9290141)
Really? If any slapdick off the street could achieve what Dexter did, we'd be the Kansas City Slapdicks

Newsflash: We pretty much ****ing were. Especially when Bowe exited the lineup.

Bunch of ****ing slapdicks trying to field an NFL passing offense.

Exoter175 01-06-2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9290147)
Newsflash: We pretty much ****ing were. Especially when Bowe exited the lineup.

Bunch of ****ing slapdicks trying to field an NFL passing offense.

If we had a QB worth a ****, that wouldn't be the case. 1 ****ing person on this team can make it or break it.

Its bad when a Receiver, on one of the best running teams in the league, is the reason we lack production when he's out of the lineup.

A receiver.

A
RECEIVER.

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Hammock Parties 01-06-2013 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9290155)
If we had a QB worth a ****, that wouldn't be the case.

A QB isn't going to make Dex:

Bigger
Faster
Quicker
Grow a better pair of hands
Cause him not to turn the ball over

Exoter175 01-06-2013 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9290168)
A QB isn't going to make Dex:

Bigger
Faster
Quicker
Grow a better pair of hands
Cause him not to turn the ball over

I take it that comment flew right over your head?

Because your response seems to suggest that.ROFL

Hammock Parties 01-06-2013 08:17 PM

Tell me how a better QB is going to make Dex explode.

Go ahead, I'll wait for your insightful reply.

Exoter175 01-06-2013 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9290197)
Tell me how a better QB is going to make Dex explode.

Go ahead, I'll wait for your insightful reply.

Show me where I said "A better QB will make Dex explode"..........

Hammock Parties 01-06-2013 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9290200)
Show me where I said "A better QB will make Dex explode"..........

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoter175
When Reid drafts Geno, McCluster is going to become elevated in this offense.

Explain McCluster's "elevation."

Exoter175 01-06-2013 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9290203)
Explain McCluster's "elevation."

Because Reid runs the WCO; Geno will thrive in the WCO; Reid was very high on McCluster; Reid likes to feed the ball to his backs out of the backfield (And yes, McCluster is a running back as much as he is receiver).

GoShox 01-06-2013 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9290145)
What is it with Chiefs fans and the QB spot? It has to be a sure thing to draft, but we're ok trading or signing a guy who couldn't even start on another team.


****ing reeruned.

This is something I don't understand either. Whenever I read other forums where people are talking about the Chiefs, it's always "well the QB's in the draft suck, let's trade for so-so" even though that QB isn't even good enough to start on their own damn team.

I'm glad the people here are sane and logical.

Hammock Parties 01-06-2013 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9290212)
Because Reid runs the WCO; Geno will thrive in the WCO; Reid was very high on McCluster; Reid likes to feed the ball to his backs out of the backfield (And yes, McCluster is a running back as much as he is receiver).

Since McCluster played 98 percent of his snaps as a WR, you're wrong. He is not a RB unless moved back to that position.

And while the WCO is great, it still requires receivers to gain yards after catch and make defenders miss. Dexter sucks at all of that.

Case closed, moron.

Exoter175 01-06-2013 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9290225)
Since McCluster played 98 percent of his snaps as a WR, you're wrong. He is not a RB unless moved back to that position.

And while the WCO is great, it still requires receivers to gain yards after catch and make defenders miss. Dexter sucks at all of that.

Case closed, moron.

ROFL

Right, because of our lack of depth at WR for our misgivings this year, Dexter got to lineup quite a bit int he slot. However, he also took snaps out of the backfield. He also ran the ball, he also wears a number conducive to running back, he's also been listed by the Chiefs as a running back before his rb/wr designation, and many sources of information continue to list him as a running back.

Dexter McCluster Will run the ball as a running back, he WILL catch the ball out of the backfield, he WILL line up in the slot. Dexter will be all over the field.

If you honestly think for 2 seconds that Dexter is nothing but a Wide Receiver, then you are the dumbest mother****er on the planet next to Sauto, and you sir, need to get out.

Hammock Parties 01-06-2013 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9290259)

If you honestly think for 2 seconds that Dexter is nothing but a Wide Receiver, then you are the dumbest mother****er on the planet next to Sauto, and you sir, need to get out.

The fact is, this season, he was moved to wide receiver. His number of snaps as a RB was severely limited.

Almost every touch he got this year was as a WR.

He's too small to play RB in the NFL.

You don't have any answer for Dexter's complete inability to make people miss, do you?

Exoter175 01-06-2013 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9290271)
The fact is, this season, he was moved to wide receiver. His number of snaps as a RB was severely limited.

Almost every touch he got this year was as a WR.

He's too small to play RB in the NFL.

You don't have any answer for Dexter's complete inability to make people miss, do you?

This season he was moved to WR because we had no depth due to injuries and "wtf" issues like Breaston, he ended up #2 in receptions. He totally sucks right?

This year he had 12 rushing attempts because we have a very deep backfield, and we were very thin at wide receiver.

Did you know Dexter has more carries in his career than receptions? When Jamaal got hurt, who did we use?

I'd argue that at least 1/3rd of his touches came from him lined up behind QB and at least 40% of them started with him in the backfield but could have motioned him.

He is also, NOT too small to play RB in the NFL and you would be stupid to ever repeat that phrase again.ROFL

Dexter actually has really good balance, I've watched him bounce off a few guys here and there, make a few guys miss here and there. You guys seem to think that because Matt Cassel checked down to him all year with 3 guys draped over him, that he can't make people miss.

Go watch the 2010 Dexter highlights again. When we actually played well as a team. He's going to get utilized just like that. Or hell, go watch the 2011 highlights of dexter. He was pretty productive.

And do you know what is scary? His YPC in the running has consecutively gone up each year, his YPC in receptions rebounded this year, and was the 2nd straight year that his number of catches went up in this offense.

Lets remember this post for this time next year, so I can come back and say "I told you so" when Dexter is sitting on 1200-1400 all purpose yards (offensively).

Hammock Parties 01-06-2013 08:39 PM

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I'd argue that at least 1/3rd of his touches came from him lined up behind QB
This is absolutely not true.

You don't even realize what you are watching.

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I've watched him bounce off a few guys here and there, make a few guys miss here and there.
He made, total, 5 guys miss a tackle this year. This comes from independent, unbiased analysis from Pro Football Focus.

You don't even know what you are watching.

You are an ignorant bastard.

Hammock Parties 01-06-2013 08:40 PM

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his YPC in receptions rebounded this year
It "rebounded" and he had one of the lowest YPC in the league.

Happy with that, you reeruned platypus?

Exoter175 01-06-2013 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9290315)
This is absolutely not true.

You don't even realize what you are watching.



He made, total, 5 guys miss a tackle this year. This comes from independent, unbiased analysis from Pro Football Focus.

You don't even know what you are watching.

You are an ignorant bastard.

I must have missed out where the 2012 season was Dexter's first and only season, because he never made guys miss in 2010, or 2011. Nope, 2012 is it, in a season where at the snap of the ball, linebackers were already on top of Dexter, and Cassel decided to check down to him already carrying a linebacker on his back, you are surprised?

I feel sad for your analytical abilities.

Also, if my touch count is "absolutely not true" then go count them for me. We already know 12 of his 66 touches came from the backfield. only 10 more touches to go!

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9290319)
It "rebounded" and he had one of the lowest YPC in the league.

Happy with that, you reeruned platypus?

One of the lowest int he league for a Wide Receiver or a Running Back? Because he is a Running Back who is utilized as Receiver and everyone knows this, except for maybe you.

mcaj22 01-06-2013 08:47 PM

"lack of depth at WR"

...

Bowe, one of the best WRs the Chiefs have ever had
a first round draft pick
a 4th round draft pick
a 2nd round draft pick
a veteran WR on a 5 year 20-25 million deal
a TE we traded up for over Jimmy Graham

and we still, lack depth at WR? After all that?

Well then ole Fat Scott sure did a bang up job didnt he

jd1020 01-06-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9290347)
"lack of depth at WR"

...

Bowe, one of the best WRs the Chiefs have ever had
a first round draft pick
a 4th round draft pick
a 2nd round draft pick
a veteran WR on a 5 year 20-25 million deal
a TE we traded up for over Jimmy Graham

and we still, lack depth at WR? After all that?

Well then ole Fat Scott sure did a bang up job didnt he

Problem is we have no speed at WR.

Hammock Parties 01-06-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9290339)
I must have missed out where the 2012 season was Dexter's first and only season, because he never made guys miss in 2010, or 2011.

As a running back in 2011, he had one of the lowest ratios of touches to missed tackles, too.

He ****ing sucks.

The sooner you realize it, the sooner your parents will stop beating you.

mcaj22 01-06-2013 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9290351)
Problem is we have no speed at WR.

so the problem is, Fat Scott spent all those draft picks for WRs or TEs and spent money on franchise tagging a WR and bringing in a veteran WR and we still, lack speed... and depth

how sad.

DaneMcCloud 01-06-2013 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9290045)
It's not blackbob. Before the thread got derailed from mechanic talk, he said smarter things than blackbob ever did. Even when he's wrong, Exhorter just comes across much more intelligent than blackbob. They don't have very similar posting styles. They're just not the same dude.

It's definitely Blackbob.

From the argumentative style, to 300 posts in 3 days, to his homeristic positions, there is absolutely no doubt it's Blackbob.

I give it three more days before its officially confirmed, tops.

Exoter175 01-06-2013 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9290347)
"lack of depth at WR"

...

Bowe, one of the best WRs the Chiefs have ever had
a first round draft pick
a 4th round draft pick
a 2nd round draft pick
a veteran WR on a 5 year 20-25 million deal
a TE we traded up for over Jimmy Graham

and we still, lack depth at WR? After all that?

Well then ole Fat Scott sure did a bang up job didnt he

And yet McCluster ended up with the second most receptions. All this post did was further back my argument. :clap:

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9290351)
Problem is we have no speed at WR.

No we do not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9290352)
As a running back in 2011, he had one of the lowest ratios of touches to missed tackles, too.

He ****ing sucks.

The sooner you realize it, the sooner your parents will stop beating you.

He also had one of the highest yards per carry in the league. Explain that.

jd1020 01-06-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9290365)
And yet McCluster ended up with the second most receptions. All this post did was further back my argument. :clap:



No we do not.

You are so ****ing stupid its unreal.

Who is the speed WR we have?

Please says Dexter! PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!

Exoter175 01-06-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9290361)
It's definitely Blackbob.

From the argumentative style, to 300 posts in 3 days, to his homeristic positions, there is absolutely no doubt it's Blackbob.

I give it three more days before its officially confirmed, tops.

Care to make a lifetime ban bet?

in 4 days, you're going to be repeating the same response because in 4 days, the general consensus of the forum will have drifted further away from me being Blackbob. Do you know why?

Because I am not Blackbob.

Exoter175 01-06-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9290369)
You are so ****ing stupid its unreal.

Who is the speed WR we have?

Please says Dexter! PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!

YOU just called me stupid, for agreeing with you that we do not have a speed receiver, or any speed at all.

Yet I am the stupid one, the one with a comprehension problem, as you previously argued?

You owned yourself here pal.

Hammock Parties 01-06-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9290365)
He also had one of the highest yards per carry in the league. Explain that.

4.5 YPC was not one of the highest YPC in the league, sorry.

Go away, mental midget.

DaneMcCloud 01-06-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9290372)
Care to make a lifetime ban bet?

in 4 days, you're going to be repeating the same response because in 4 days, the general consensus of the forum will have drifted further away from me being Blackbob. Do you know why?

Because I am not Blackbob.

You're Blackbob, Dude.

Everyone knows it. Soon, the Mods will as well.

Then, it's Adios, Mother****er.

jd1020 01-06-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9290376)
YOU just called me stupid, for agreeing with you that we do not have a speed receiver, or any speed at all.

Yet I am the stupid one, the one with a comprehension problem, as you previously argued?

You owned yourself here pal.

I wasn't agreeing with you dumbass. I was mocking your future response.

Dexter runs 3 yard routes and hes a ****ing slot receiver.

Exoter175 01-06-2013 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9290379)
4.5 YPC was not one of the highest YPC in the league, sorry.

Go away, mental midget.

You are right, for all players with at least 100 carries or more, Dexter McCluster was tied for 21st position, this included running QB's.ROFL

HE IS SO BAD OMG

Exoter175 01-06-2013 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9290381)
You're Blackbob, Dude.

Everyone knows it. Soon, the Mods will as well.

Then, it's Adios, Mother****er.

I'm not Blackbob, all they can do is check my IP and my email address. They will find that I am not, in fact, Blackbob. Take my bet or leave it crybaby.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9290387)
I wasn't agreeing with you dumbass. I was mocking your future response.

Dexter runs 3 yard routes and hes a ****ing slot receiver.

Two posts in a row you look like an idiot.

I didn't say you were agreeing with me, I said I was agreeing with YOU and you called me an idiot.

nice backpedal on the "future response" bit, but the truth is you swallowed your own foot there and are trying to fight your way out of the wet paper bag lol.

PS, where do those routes come from?

Sassy Squatch 01-06-2013 08:59 PM

Maclin for a 4th rounder? SOLD

Reaper16 01-06-2013 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9290361)
It's definitely Blackbob.

From the argumentative style, to 300 posts in 3 days, to his homeristic positions, there is absolutely no doubt it's Blackbob.

I give it three more days before its officially confirmed, tops.

I really don't think so. Exorter has been posting about Iowa since as far back as his posts are archived, while Blackbob was a Georgia fan. Exorter doesn't have blackbob's anti-Bowe obsession either.

Exoter175 01-06-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9290398)
I really don't think so. Exorter has been posting about Iowa since as far back as his posts are archived, while Blackbob was a Georgia fan. Exorter doesn't have blackbob's anti-Bowe obsession either.

Thank you, and its Exoter, not Exorter or Extorter. :D

jd1020 01-06-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9290398)
I really don't think so. Exorter has been posting about Iowa since as far back as his posts are archived, while Blackbob was a Georgia fan. Exorter doesn't have blackbob's anti-Bowe obsession either.

Dudes been lurking since July 2011 and now all of a sudden he's posting 30+ times a day.

Did another Blackbob mult get banned recently?

Hammock Parties 01-06-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9290388)
You are right, for all players with at least 100 carries or more, Dexter McCluster was tied for 21st position, this included running QB's.ROFL

HE IS SO BAD OMG

So that wasn't one of the highest marks in the league, then.

Also, he was getting plenty of garbage yards on third and long, if you go back and look at games from that season.

He's a terrible ****ing football player who now has a THREE YEAR HISTORY of not being a playmaker.

What part of that is hard to understand? The vast majority of his touches go for less than 10 yards. He lacks playmaking ability.

Exoter175 01-06-2013 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9290408)
So that wasn't one of the highest marks in the league, then.

Also, he was getting plenty of garbage yards on third and long, if you go back and look at games from that season.

He's a terrible ****ing football player who now has a THREE YEAR HISTORY of not being a playmaker.

What part of that is hard to understand? The vast majority of his touches go for less than 10 yards. He lacks playmaking ability.

Considering we're talking about the difference betwee top 10 and #21 at just a few tenths of a yard per carry, yeah, I'd call that near the top of the league.

His touches go for less than 10 yards per touch, that means he lacks play making ability? When more than HALF of those touches are handoffs because he is a running back?ROFL:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Exoter175 01-06-2013 09:04 PM

Guys without play making ability return punts for touchdowns, true story. That is, after all, why they are back there.

You don't use your playmakers on special teams as returners at all.


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