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DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels (Post 9498746)
This isn't complete, but here's a good look at that breakdown (but without data from the additions of Smith, Robinson and Devito, or the departure of Cassel):

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/cap-hit/http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/cap-hit/

Thanks! I doubt they'll do any big money signings but it sure looks as if it would help them out tremendously to cut Studebaker and extend Eric Berry.

$10 million for Berry is an eyesore. I doubt Hali would extend and renegotiate.

Sassy Squatch 03-14-2013 04:19 PM

Who you looking at Dane?

Mr. Flopnuts 03-14-2013 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498688)
I think they trade down and add either a DT, OT or OLB. If they can trade down even further than 8, their options become even greater.

I'd sure like to see Tavon Austin with Charles, Bowe, Avery, Fasano and Moeaki.

I would love to see that.

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Originally Posted by Mr. SyphiLaz (Post 9498696)
wut?

Poe can play every position on the DLine and all the 3 downs.


now we still have to see if he develops into a good player, but the ability is there

Basically, he's not going to go play every down on long drives. You have to have some depth on that line. We don't. It's a need.

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 9498770)
Who you looking at Dane?

Oh, in free agency? Off the top of my head, Brad Jones, ILB from Green Bay and Rey Maualuga, ILB from Cincy.

Sassy Squatch 03-14-2013 04:22 PM

Dansby if its reasonable.

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 9498781)
Dansby if its reasonable.

I'd rather have one of the other guys because they're each 5 years younger.

Dansby would be a stop gap.

penbrook 03-14-2013 04:30 PM

Lance Twidwell said we have about 12 mil in cap space.

O.city 03-14-2013 04:31 PM

Cut Studebaker and sign Osi or Seymour with that same contract.

ChiefRocka 03-14-2013 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 9498781)
Dansby if its reasonable.

Uh huh.

CupidStunt 03-14-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9498815)
Lance Twidwell said we have about 12 mil in cap space.

Who? And how is that possible?

Urc Burry 03-14-2013 04:32 PM

I am hoping for a trade down and a second round pick being involved and getting Arthur Brown.. Would love an ILB who can cover

O.city 03-14-2013 04:33 PM

If we could trade down a time or even into the early teens again, acquiring some picks, I'd love to take Arthur Brown.

penbrook 03-14-2013 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 9498826)
I am hoping for a trade down and a second round pick being involved and getting Arthur Brown.. Would love an ILB who can cover

Brad Jones is better.

Easy 6 03-14-2013 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels (Post 9498726)
Not sure if Q..

Walterfootball's take on this acquisition:
Chiefs sign CB Sean Smith (3 years, $18M; $11M guaranteed): B- Grade
The Chiefs have overpaid once again. Sean Smith is a solid No. 2 cornerback. He is not a No. 1 as Kansas City seems to think. There's no way he deserves $6 million per year and $11 million guaranteed. I understand that the Chiefs wanted to add a corner to contend with the Broncos and all of their receivers, but that doesn't mean they should throw tons of money at the first defensive back willing to sign with them.

Then again, this is from the guy who assigned a C+ and D grade to the re-signings of Bowe and Colquitt, respectively, and who has previously graded LeRon McClain and Kelly Gregg as "A"s. So take it with a giant grain of salt. Like, the biggest grain of salt ever manufactured.

Screw that guy, if Al Harris successfully lobbied for him, thats pretty much good enough for me.

They're nearly identical players and good friends... Al/Emmit will know exactly how to coach him up.

And you cant coach that size, a 6'3 215 corner is MONSTERISH and RARE, he's the perfect foil for a guy like Demaryus Thomas and the other huge receivers out there.

O.city 03-14-2013 04:34 PM

Brad Jones, isn't better than what Arthur Brown could be.

penbrook 03-14-2013 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9498837)
Brad Jones, isn't better than what Arthur Brown could be.

Yes but Reid is in the win now mode. And as of right now Brad Jones is better than Arthur Brown.

O.city 03-14-2013 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9498843)
Yes but Reid is in the win now mode. And as of right now Brad Jones is better than Arthur Brown.

No, I don't think so.

penbrook 03-14-2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9498851)
No, I don't think so.

Well its just my opinion but I have to disagree. We need a ILB who can cover and Brad Jones is it.

O.city 03-14-2013 04:46 PM

Brown was a great cover ILB in college, who's got lead in his pencil and produced at a high level. He was a damn all American, IIRC.

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9498821)
Cut Studebaker and sign Osi or Seymour with that same contract.

Osi won't play in a 3-4, Seymour's near done.

O.city 03-14-2013 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498882)
Osi won't play in a 3-4, Seymour's near done.

We need a pass rushing DL to put with DeVito and platoon. If Seymour came cheap and could stay healthy, he'd be worth it.

CoMoChief 03-14-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9498886)
We need a pass rushing DL to put with DeVito and platoon. If Seymour came cheap and could stay healthy, he'd be worth it.

he'd be worth it in 2008

O.city 03-14-2013 05:05 PM

The pass rushing market is barren in free agency money wise. I'd venture to say that neither of those guys get too awful much.

Micjones 03-14-2013 05:08 PM

LOVE the signing.

About 55% of the passes thrown his way in 2012 were completed.
He surrendered 6 TD's.
Not as physical as you'd expect a guy his size to be in run support.
Not a ballhawker (though he has good hands).
Great combo of size/speed. Can struggle with smaller, speedy WR's.

Dorsey kicked ass and took names with that contract though.
And we're getting Smith in his prime. He'll be 26 when the year starts.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 9498962)
Not an exception ball hawker (though he has good hands).
.

He has terrible hands. He drops INTs like he got a performance bonus for it.

silver5liter 03-14-2013 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9499006)
He has terrible hands. He drops INTs like he got a performance bonus for it.

Thats why he plays cb and not wr

LinElliott 03-14-2013 05:23 PM

Some Dolphin fan responses to losing Smith:

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So they basically stalled a bit to quiet the Vontae tampering leak Tweet. They were on him all along.

Bye bye. I hope we play you soon.
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please be true, please be true
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Thx goodness. My biggest concern was he was going to come back here!
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Greatest news all free agency!
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Decent cover guy, but can't hit and can't make plays down the field. he's not worth it after all the time he's had here. he is what he is.
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Good riddance!
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can't catch, can't make a big play, can't cover 50% of the time, can't keep his mind off of Twitter....and can't tackle for crap. Good riddance
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GOOD FOR HIM..BAD FOR THE CHIEFS FANS..I BET HIM AND HIS COACH AL HARRIS GET CUT NEXT OFFSEAson.
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SO happy with this! I really, really didnt rate Smith. McCann has already been way better than him in his short time here.
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Adios dip****.
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Thank god. Worst awareness I've ever seen. Its too bad b/c he has the right size and attitude. I remember his 1 handed INT his first preseason. Thought he was gonna be a star. Oh well. Bring on Xavier Rhodes.
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Good luck sean. Thanks for.................? I ain't got nothing.
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Most hated Dolphin since Ted Ginn. Good riddance.
I said this earlier when we were first interested in him, but he's just not a good player and is probably the worst signing of free agency so far. He's big, but he's soft, not fast, has bad hips, and can't tackle.

If you wan't him to guard a slant he can do that just fine, but anything that causes him to turn his hips and he's ****ed.

Micjones 03-14-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9499006)
He has terrible hands. He drops INTs like he got a performance bonus for it.

You're right.
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LinElliott 03-14-2013 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9499020)
Thats why he plays cb and not wr

He was actually a WR in college.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9499020)
Thats why he plays cb and not wr

:facepalm:

Some DBs actually get 4, 5, even 6 INTs in a year.

That's what Sean Smith has for his CAREER.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 9499025)
You're right.
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Do you think I give a shit about one play, much less one from COLLEGE?

Sean Smith has TERRIBLE hands, even for a CB. He has dropped a TON of interceptions.

silver5liter 03-14-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9499029)
:facepalm:

Some DBs actually get 4, 5, even 6 INTs in a year.

That's what Sean Smith has for his CAREER.

Hes only 25, he will get better. So negative all the time.

Saccopoo 03-14-2013 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9498875)
Brown was a great cover ILB in college, who's got lead in his pencil and produced at a high level. He was a damn all American, IIRC.

There are a lot of questions about Brown, the first being his size (or lack thereof), production other than this past season and injury history. (He's been nursing that shoulder for a long time now.)

He's a 43 ILB or Weakside LB. I don't see him playing inside in a 34 as a Mike.

LinElliott 03-14-2013 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9499034)
Do you think I give a shit about one play, much less one from COLLEGE?

Sean Smith has TERRIBLE hands, even for a CB. He has dropped a TON of interceptions.

Many people not like Go to Hell's negativity, but he's right about this. He's made 2 good catches that pop out to you, one in college and one in pre-season in his rookie season. But the rest are just average INTs that any of us could've caught, and the rest were dropped.

He might have more INTs if he wasn't actually being burned by the WR the whole time.

LinElliott 03-14-2013 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9499038)
Hes only 25, he will get better. So negative all the time.

Same exact things Dolphins said after his first 2 years.

LoneWolf 03-14-2013 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9497915)

King, you may want to lay low for awhile because you're probably wanted for murder.

silver5liter 03-14-2013 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LinElliott (Post 9499055)
Same exact things Dolphins said after his first 2 years.

He doesnt fit the defense they play.

LinElliott 03-14-2013 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9499069)
He doesnt fit the defense they play.

He's played in 3 different defenses and sucked in all of them. I don't think it has anything to do with the scheme.

O.city 03-14-2013 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9499050)
There are a lot of questions about Brown, the first being his size (or lack thereof), production other than this past season and injury history. (He's been nursing that shoulder for a long time now.)

He's a 43 ILB or Weakside LB. I don't see him playing inside in a 34 as a Mike.

He was 242 at their proday. He was good last year, was he not?

silver5liter 03-14-2013 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LinElliott (Post 9499073)
He's played in 3 different defenses and sucked in all of them. I don't think it has anything to do with the scheme.

Your and idiot

LinElliott 03-14-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9499086)
Your and idiot

ROFL

Says the guy who's excited for the most targeted CB in the league, and the CB who gave up the 2nd most TD's in the league.

silver5liter 03-14-2013 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LinElliott (Post 9499096)
ROFL

Says the guy who's excited for the most targeted CB in the league, and the CB who gave up the 2nd most TD's in the league.


http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1759/trollfm.jpg

Micjones 03-14-2013 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9499034)
Do you think I give a shit about one play, much less one from COLLEGE?

Sean Smith has TERRIBLE hands, even for a CB. He has dropped a TON of interceptions.

You're right.
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Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9499069)
He doesnt fit the defense they play.

He was the worst CB in football in 2011.

He doesn't fit ANY defense.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 9499106)
You're right.
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He has 5 INTs for his CAREER.

Gonna post all those picked cherries, or what?

The guy has stone hands.

silver5liter 03-14-2013 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LinElliott (Post 9499096)
ROFL

Says the guy who's excited for the most targeted CB in the league, and the CB who gave up the 2nd most TD's in the league.

He did play in multiple formations. Thats why people know he is very good in press coverage and stinks in zone. We will be running press coverage. That is why he was a hot commodity. The dolphins are wanting run zone more so didnt have a use for him, even though they wanted him back.

LinElliott 03-14-2013 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 9499106)
You're right.

I'll take a Corner that can INT the ball more than 5 times in a 4 year career, rather than a Corner that made 2 awesome INTs and neither of them were in his regular season professional career.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9499122)
He did play in multiple formations. Thats why people know he is very good in press coverage and stinks in zone. We will be running press coverage. That is why he was a hot commodity. The dolphins are wanting run zone more so didnt have a use for him, even though they wanted him back.

On every play, eh? ROFL

We're not playing one single snap of zone this year?

silver5liter 03-14-2013 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9499111)
He was the worst CB in football in 2011.

He doesn't fit ANY defense.

i wish there were stats out there for when hes in press coverage.

LinElliott 03-14-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9499122)
He did play in multiple formations. Thats why people know he is very good in press coverage and stinks in zone. We will be running press coverage. That is why he was a hot commodity. The dolphins are wanting run zone more so didnt have a use for him, even though they wanted him back.

He was moved to Nickel Corner because he struggled in every facet of his game, he only played boundary corner last year because the Dolphins traded Vontae Davis.

He is absolutely terrible in zone, but he isn't exactly Darrelle Revis in man either. He's not physical, and has bad hips. If we move him to safety it's the only way I"ll justify this signing.

kcjayhawks5 03-14-2013 05:42 PM

We should have got revis!!!!!!!!!!!1111111

silver5liter 03-14-2013 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9499133)
On every play, eh? ROFL

We're not playing one single snap of zone this year?

Not every play, but im sure we will use press the majority of snaps. Jesus christ dude, ive never seen someone so butt hurt over every ****ing thing. Your life must be terrible

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LinElliott (Post 9499139)
If we move him to safety it's the only way I"ll justify this signing.

The guy is a big pussy.

He better not be playing safety.

FYI, I think he can actually be a decent corner at times. But Eric Warfield was decent at times. But his history of being absolutely roasted at the worst possible times is going to be an unforgivable sin on a team with a game manager at QB.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9499146)
Not every play, but im sure we will use press the majority of snaps. Jesus christ dude, ive never seen someone so butt hurt over every ****ing thing. Your life must be terrible

I love everything the Chiefs have done this offseason.

Except Sean Smith and Alex Smith.

Those two things suck hardcore.

mcaj22 03-14-2013 05:46 PM

devito signing is still way worse than this one. devito is a walking handicap/mismatch waiting to happen

Micjones 03-14-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9499116)
He has 5 INTs for his CAREER.

Gonna post all those picked cherries, or what?

The guy has stone hands.

Because all cornerbacks do is pick off passes?
That's brilliant.

In 56 starts, he has 5 INT's.
Wanna guess how many picks Carr had over the first 56 starts of his career?
Don't worry, I'll wait.

silver5liter 03-14-2013 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9499157)
I love everything the Chiefs have done this offseason.

Except Sean Smith and Alex Smith.

Those two things suck hardcore.

I hate Alex Smith as much as the next guy. I love Geno, I almost cried when we traded for Alex Smiff but it is what it is. Can you atleast agree that its atleast a pretty good contract? Atleast this isnt revis money.

O.city 03-14-2013 05:47 PM

Thank god we didn't keep Carr, he sucked last year.

penbrook 03-14-2013 05:48 PM

I love it. Matt Miller and Incarcerated Bob are going at it on twiter.

penbrook 03-14-2013 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9499169)
Thank god we didn't keep Carr, he sucked last year.

Thats why he is a #2 and not a #1.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 9499164)
Because all cornerbacks do is pick off passes?
That's brilliant.

The post claimed Sean Smith had good hands.

He doesn't.

He also sucks at other aspects of his job.

O.city 03-14-2013 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9499172)
Thats why he is a #2 and not a #1.

Carr isn't the 1 in Dallas?

mcaj22 03-14-2013 05:52 PM

Carr had a good year for having to cover real WRs unlike the jokes in the AFC West

LinElliott 03-14-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9499181)
Carr isn't the 1 in Dallas?


Claiborne is probably the no.1 in Dallas.

Micjones 03-14-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9499177)
The post claimed Sean Smith had good hands.

He doesn't.

He also sucks at other aspects of his job.

You're oversimplifying what creates a dropped pass.
It's not a good hands/bad hands binary.

You act as though catching a ball doesn't also involve concentration.
Bowe has good hands, but he has bad habits that contribute to his drops.

Same is true of Smith.
Sean Smith will make an extraordinary interception from time-to-time.
Because he has GOOD HANDS. He struggles with consistent concentration and focus when he tries to bring a ball in.

And there's more to being a good corner than picking passes off anyway.

I'll answer for you since you dodged my question.
Brandon Carr had 6 INT's through his first 56 starts (1 more than Smith at the same stage).
Dallas should cut him now, right?

DJ's left nut 03-14-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9499162)
devito signing is still way worse than this one. devito is a walking handicap/mismatch waiting to happen

Far far FAR worse.

The DeVito signing is an abortion on all levels.

O.city 03-14-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LinElliott (Post 9499193)
Claiborne is probably the no.1 in Dallas.

Then the Cowboys severly overpaid for a #2 CB.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 9499198)
And there's more to being a good corner than picking passes off anyway.

He was the worst CB in football in 2011 for those "other" reasons.

mcaj22 03-14-2013 05:55 PM

and miami fans should be crying they have no secondary because they would rather spend 200 million on two WRs and two LBs based of their one season samples

so they can run their mouths all they want their starting CB is nolan ****ing carroll and the LBs they overpaid for still dont hold a candle to ours

Nightfyre 03-14-2013 05:55 PM

Andy Reid is doing the same shit he did with the Eagles. Overpay a bunch of free agents and hope it works out. I can't think of many teams that have won using this tactic since the salary cap was implemented. I can also think of many who wound up in cap hell trying.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9499217)
Andy Reid is doing the same shit he did with the Eagles. Overpay a bunch of free agents and hope it works out. I can't think of many teams that have won using this tactic since the salary cap was implemented. I can also think of many who wound up in cap hell trying.

Retread QBs and paying out the ass for free agents is the Andy Reid way since McNabb left.

jimw51 03-14-2013 05:56 PM

Nothing makes these experience happy on the board. If they got revis they would find fault with it.

DJ's left nut 03-14-2013 05:57 PM

An interesting note on Carr - he recently restructured about $12.5 million of his salary into a signing bonus that will be pro-rated into the remainder of his deal.

This is interesting primarily because it makes it that much more difficult for the Cowboys to cut him now. When we looked at his deal, it had the looks of a 3 year deal with numbers at the back end he probably won't get. With this restructure, to unload him after 2 years would accelerate an additional $6 million in dead money onto the cap in 2015 over what it already would have count towards.

In other words, it looks pretty damn likely that Brandon Carr might actually play out that entire deal at $10 million/season.

Is he worth that? I'm not so sure.

SAUTO 03-14-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9499207)
Then the Cowboys severly overpaid for a #2 CB.

And Claiborne is cheap. It's a wash.
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LinElliott 03-14-2013 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 9499198)
You're oversimplifying what creates a dropped pass.
It's not a good hands/bad hands binary.

You act as though catching a ball doesn't also involve concentration.
Bowe has good hands, but he has bad habits that contribute to his drops.

Same is true of Smith.
Sean Smith will make an extraordinary interception from time-to-time.
Because he has GOOD HANDS. He struggles with consistent concentration and focus when he tries to bring a ball in.

And there's more to being a good corner than picking passes off anyway.

I'll answer for you since you dodged my question.
Brandon Carr had 6 INT's through his first 56 starts (1 more than Smith at the same stage).
Dallas should cut him now, right?

He hasn't made 1 extraordinary INT that has counted in his professional career.

And there's definitely more to a Corner than picking off passes, or Deangelo Hall would be the highest paid corner in the NFL, but Sean Smith is 6'3 and gets his hands on the ball, he just doesn't come down with them. And when you're leading the league in passes thrown your way you need to come down with more than just 5 INTs in your career.

Marcellus 03-14-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9499217)
Andy Reid is doing the same shit he did with the Eagles. Overpay a bunch of free agents and hope it works out. I can't think of many teams that have won using this tactic since the salary cap was implemented. I can also think of many who wound up in cap hell trying.

It doesn't seem that 1 single contract has been expensive except Bowe's.

ToxSocks 03-14-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9499169)
Thank god we didn't keep Carr, he sucked last year.

I didnt pay attention to Dallas or Carr. Is this Sarcasm or was he bad?

O.city 03-14-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9499227)
And Claiborne is cheap. It's a wash.
Posted via Mobile Device

They especially overpaid for one who wasn't really that good last year.

The Bad Guy 03-14-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9499217)
Andy Reid is doing the same shit he did with the Eagles. Overpay a bunch of free agents and hope it works out. I can't think of many teams that have won using this tactic since the salary cap was implemented. I can also think of many who wound up in cap hell trying.

No, this is not the tactic he used 2 years ago with the Eagles. He spent huge amounts of money on Nnamdi.

I'm sorry, I don't consider a basic one year deal for Robinson and a 3 year deal for Smith to be huge deals.

This is a 2-14 team, and the talent that we have isn't going to be young forever. Fill the holes with good free agents, and fix the rest in the draft.

I can't for the life of me understand the people crying about these moves.

DJ's left nut 03-14-2013 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9499207)
Then the Cowboys severly overpaid for a #2 CB.

They really didn't at first; his first 3 seasons weren't much more onerous than Routt's; they could've escaped after 3 years and been out around $21 million.

But now, if they want to do that, they're going to take one hell of a shot in dead money. They may well have to eat it.

Shortsighted restructure, IMO.


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