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Chiefaholic 08-19-2013 04:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9899759)
Alex Smith is not making ANY WRs better.
Give it up... This board is nothing more than a meaningless game in your boring lifestyle. Saying Alex is an identical version to Casshole is ludicrous. The trade might just delay the inevitable, but Baldwin was in Reids doghouse and doesn't fit the offensive scheme. At least Jenkins has the physical potential to fit the scheme and a trade MIGHT be all he needs to realize it's time to play some damn ball or walk his ass back home.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 08-19-2013 05:01 PM
Maybe David Boston can mentor Baldwin into some Thomas Jones biceps.

Simply Red 08-19-2013 05:02 PM
that dude nailed it on twitter. ROFL

O.city 08-19-2013 05:03 PM
After what I've been reading about Jenkins, it seems that he might be a good fit in a victor Cruz type role ( as someone suggested earlier, not sure who) and not so much outside

Simply Red 08-19-2013 05:04 PM
pardon my tardiness - I actually work during the day - so I've just NOW been able to read up.

Hammock Parties 08-19-2013 05:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 9899784)
Give it up... This board is nothing more than a meaningless game in your boring lifestyle. Saying Alex is an identical version to Casshole is ludicrous. The trade might just delay the inevitable, but Baldwin was in Reids doghouse and doesn't fit the offensive scheme. At least Jenkins has the physical potential to fit the scheme and a trade MIGHT be all he needs to realize it's time to play some damn ball or walk his ass back home.
I'm glad we got something for Baldwin.

But Alex Smith does NOT make ANY wide receivers BETTER.

He makes them WORSE.

Jakemall 08-19-2013 05:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9899790)
After what I've been reading about Jenkins, it seems that he might be a good fit in a victor Cruz type role ( as someone suggested earlier, not sure who) and not so much outside
No one can quite figure out what's wrong with Jenkins..he has the speed, he has the hands, he has the route running, but he can't seem to put it together.

Is it heart? I dunno.

Simply Red 08-19-2013 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe (Post 9899762)
So... we're NOT moving him to TE?
JBTE!

Jakemall 08-19-2013 05:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9899794)
I'm glad we got something for Baldwin.

But Alex Smith does NOT make ANY wide receivers BETTER.

He makes them WORSE.
I can name a number of WRs that have gotten better while playing with Alex. Now does that mean that he made them better? No...but they certainly didn't get worse.

Thig Lyfe 08-19-2013 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9899797)
JBTE!
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Hammock Parties 08-19-2013 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9899799)
I can name a number of WRs that have gotten better while playing with Alex. Now does that mean that he made them better? No...but they certainly didn't get worse.
Bullshit. Stop lying.

http://i.imgur.com/Nzuguy6.jpg

O.city 08-19-2013 05:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9899796)
No one can quite figure out what's wrong with Jenkins..he has the speed, he has the hands, he has the route running, but he can't seem to put it together.

Is it heart? I dunno.
Hopefully it's just system.


As good as Harbaugh is as a coach, his offensive systems aren't the most wr friendly.

DaFace 08-19-2013 05:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9899611)
Just heard 49ers "insider" Matt Barrows on the radio discussing Jenkins.

He said Baalke traded Jenkins because the coaches demanded it. He said Jenkins had to go because of bad work ethic and just not taking things seriously and no motivation. He said he thinks it could have been a locker-room cancer to keep him as the 5th or 6th WR, when much harder working guys got cut. As if the veterans might be upset over keeping a guy who won't work hard.

He mentioned a sideline shot during the KC SF game where Jenkins was joking with the other WRs and they were having none of it. Shut him down. Just completely ignored him. Nobody wanted him there from his coaches to the other WRs.

Barrows repeated about some guys being the first in the door every morning (Kaepernick) and made it sound like Jenkins was the last to come in each day and the first to leave. He talked about guys staying late and working round the clock, making it sound like Jenkins did not put in any extra effort.

He talked about Harbaugh's continued praise of Quinton Patton and Patton's drive and dedication and motivation. The implication is Jenkins is the opposite.

Bottom line, he made it sound like Jenkins was just very lazy with no dedication and no desire to learn his craft or develop his skills.

If the Chiefs can fix that, the performance will come. Frankly, I don't believe it is fixable. Guys have it or don't. You can't coach self-motivation or work ethic any more than you can make a short-haired chic grow her hair out long, or get a chic that wears sweats to bed to start wearing lingerie. It is either there from the start, or it isn't.

Maybe this is a wake up call. Chiefs can only hope.
Cool - good insights. My hope is just that if the Chiefs get him in the building and it looks like he's not going to turn things around, they just drop him. They were probably close to doing so with Baldwin, so I'd hate to have the guy end up making the team on a hope and a dream if he's going to just piss all his teammates off.

Mr. Laz 08-19-2013 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9899203)
so two people walk into a bathroom to take a shit, but before wiping they switch stalls...
:LOL:

Sorter 08-19-2013 05:19 PM
Well, interesting. Baldwin supposedly worked hard but was turriblez. Jenkins was/is turriblez and doesn't work hard.

Ming the Merciless 08-19-2013 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9899350)
over-reaction.....

Just like the Alex Smith fans overreacted to the Saints game, this is an overreaction.
Tell me how saying _IF_ we dont get better on 1st downs and IF we dont win TOP we wont 'beast' on defense is an over reaction.

Please ****ing tell me.

Jakemall 08-19-2013 05:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9899835)
Well, interesting. Baldwin supposedly worked hard but was turriblez. Jenkins was/is turriblez and doesn't work hard.
That was a knock early on...but everyone was saying how hard he was working this off-season. At least until I saw that report just recently. So I dunno.

Mr. Laz 08-19-2013 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike in SW-MO (Post 9899627)
WR 17 Donnie Avery 19 Devon Wylie A.J. Jenkins 8 Josh Bellamy 85 Frankie Hammond Jr.
WR 82 Dwayne Bowe 22 Dexter McCluster 88 Junior Hemingway 15 Terrance Copper 14 Tyler Shoemaker 84 Jamar Newsome 83 Rico Richardson

I find the new depth chart kind of interesting. Wylie and McCluster as the #1 sub on both sides, when they are actually slot.

That makes Hemingway the top sub for Bowe and AJ is starting as the top sub for Avery.

If Avery does not work out as the #2 guy opposite Bowe, who gets the chance to at that spot? Hemingway (Mr. 7th round)? or AJ (Mr.1st round)?
wow ... Wylie and McCluster 2nd string


do our WR's suck major ass or what

Mav 08-19-2013 05:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9899842)
Tell me how saying _IF_ we dont get better on 1st downs and IF we dont win TOP we wont 'beast' on defense is an over reaction.

Please ****ing tell me.
http://ametia.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/you-mad.jpg

Jakemall 08-19-2013 05:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9899835)
Well, interesting. Baldwin supposedly worked hard but was turriblez. Jenkins was/is turriblez and doesn't work hard.
Quote:
Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9899804)
Bullshit. Stop lying.

http://i.imgur.com/Nzuguy6.jpg
That graph is false from the start. It's more like 8 games to 11 games..because let's face it, Alex played 1 qtr in that last game.

Also, you're going to tell me that Crabs didn't get better while playing with Alex? I didn't bring Kaep into this..you did But if you want to make that arguement, then you have to deal with the fact that VD got worse when Alex left.

And let's look at other WR's stats while we're at it....Not just Crabtree who was Kaep's favorite target.

RunKC 08-19-2013 05:33 PM
Is Baldwin the worst Chiefs draft pick ever? Possibly, though he's definitely top 3.

Simply Red 08-19-2013 05:34 PM
JBT!

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TRADED!

Mav 08-19-2013 05:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9899861)
That graph is false from the start. It's more like 8 games to 11 games..because let's face it, Alex played 1 qtr in that last game.

Also, you're going to tell me that Crabs didn't get better while playing with Alex? I didn't bring Kaep into this..you did But if you want to make that arguement, then you have to deal with the fact that VD got worse when Alex left.

And let's look at other WR's stats while we're at it....Not just Crabtree who was Kaep's favorite target.
Man Jake, you have got to stop with this clown. he doesn't understand football. All his knowledge is off of other websites. He doesn't have a free thinking brain cell in his body. He doesn't know football. He is obsessed with the deep ball. Do yourself a favor. Ignore it.

Mav 08-19-2013 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9899865)
Is Baldwin the worst Chiefs draft pick ever? Possibly, though he's definitely top 3.
Worse than Ryan Sims? Or Todd Blackledge?

BigMeatballDave 08-19-2013 05:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9899865)
Is Baldwin the worst Chiefs draft pick ever? Possibly, though he's definitely top 3.
Trezelle Jenkins

Ming the Merciless 08-19-2013 05:39 PM
Todd Blackledge

RunKC 08-19-2013 05:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9899869)
Worse than Ryan Sims? Or Todd Blackledge?
Ryan Sims had a season where he had 38 tackles, 3 sacks, an INT and a forced fumble, which gave people hope.

Todd Blackledge had a decent 4 game stretch his rookie year where he had 3 TD's to 0 INT's his rookie year which gave some hope (so I hear).

Baldwin entered the league as a baby, then got into a fight, got owned, then just turned into a gigantic pussy.

It's close, but I definitely think Baldwin is worse than Sims for sure.

SanDiego49er 08-19-2013 05:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9899817)
Cool - good insights. My hope is just that if the Chiefs get him in the building and it looks like he's not going to turn things around, they just drop him. They were probably close to doing so with Baldwin, so I'd hate to have the guy end up making the team on a hope and a dream if he's going to just piss all his teammates off.
He's lazy, no work ethic and a weakling. He can't even get off the jam at the line of scrimmage.

Simply Red 08-19-2013 05:46 PM
by the way - who won the Jonathan Baldwin vs. Thomas Jones? I forget - one of them got the better of the other, I do remember that much.

Mav 08-19-2013 05:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9899885)
by the way - who won the Jonathan Baldwin vs. Thomas Jones? I forget - one of them got the better of the other, I do remember that much.
Thomas jones beat that ass.

Chiefaholic 08-19-2013 05:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9899794)
I'm glad we got something for Baldwin.

But Alex Smith does NOT make ANY wide receivers BETTER.

He makes them WORSE.
Just another example of why it's better that women should swallow.

Ming the Merciless 08-19-2013 05:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9899880)
Ryan Sims had a season where he had 38 tackles, 3 sacks, an INT and a forced fumble, which gave people hope.

Todd Blackledge had a decent 4 game stretch his rookie year where he had 3 TD's to 0 INT's his rookie year which gave some hope (so I hear).

Baldwin entered the league as a baby, then got into a fight, got owned, then just turned into a gigantic pussy.

It's close, but I definitely think Baldwin is worse than Sims for sure.

Todd Blackledge and Ryam SIms were 6th and 7th overall picks


Baldwin was almost a second rounder (26th overall)

its gotta be sims or todd

Mav 08-19-2013 05:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 9899890)
Just another example of why it's better that women should swallow.
Seriously. Its like he gets picked on so hard at work, and his entire miserable life that his release is to be a douche bag continuously.

Hammock Parties 08-19-2013 05:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9899880)
It's close, but I definitely think Baldwin is worse than Sims for sure.
Uh, it's not even close.

Sims was a decent contributor on defense for awhile. We actually needed him on defense in 2005 and 2006.

Baldwin is nothing.

Nothing.

Kiimo 08-19-2013 05:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9899885)
by the way - who won the Jonathan Baldwin vs. Thomas Jones? I forget - one of them got the better of the other, I do remember that much.


Who do you think?



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SanDiego49er 08-19-2013 05:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9899861)
That graph is false from the start. It's more like 8 games to 11 games..because let's face it, Alex played 1 qtr in that last game.

Also, you're going to tell me that Crabs didn't get better while playing with Alex? I didn't bring Kaep into this..you did But if you want to make that arguement, then you have to deal with the fact that VD got worse when Alex left.

And let's look at other WR's stats while we're at it....Not just Crabtree who was Kaep's favorite target.
Correct. 8 games vs. 11 games is not a fair comparison.

Also Vernon Davis dropped off huge under Kaepernick. He had very large production under Alex Smith. Other receivers were getting the ball under Alex. He spread it around more and especially liked the TE's. Kaepernick favored Crabtree and mostly ignored all the other guys.

BigMeatballDave 08-19-2013 05:52 PM
Trezelle Jenkins

He only played in 9 games in 3 seasons.

Worst. Chiefs. Pick. Ever.

Marcellus 08-19-2013 05:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9899865)
Is Baldwin the worst Chiefs draft pick ever? Possibly, though he's definitely top 3.
Not.Even.Close

Kaepernick 08-19-2013 05:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9899796)
No one can quite figure out what's wrong with Jenkins..he has the speed, he has the hands, he has the route running, but he can't seem to put it together.

Is it heart? I dunno.
From what I heard from Matt Barrows, it is laziness and poor work ethic.

SanDiego49er 08-19-2013 05:56 PM
You can't fix lazy and poor work ethic.

Sandy Vagina 08-19-2013 05:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 9899883)
He's lazy, no work ethic and a weakling. He can't even get off the jam at the line of scrimmage.
You really have it in for AJJ, huh? This must be the 20th post where you are blasting away at him. Dude has been pretty invisible and all, but it isn't like he's had years or lots of meaningful NFL passes come his way. I don't think he will ever be a really good WR, but he could develop into a decent slot WR.

Kaepernick 08-19-2013 05:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9899843)
That was a knock early on...but everyone was saying how hard he was working this off-season. At least until I saw that report just recently. So I dunno.
Who knows the truth? All I can do is pass along what Matt Barrows said & the way I interpreted what he said was Jenkins lacks dedication and work ethic.

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-19-2013 06:00 PM
Sylvester Morris

SanDiego49er 08-19-2013 06:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9899910)
You really have it in for AJJ, huh? This must be the 20th post where you are blasting away at him. Dude has been pretty invisible and all, but it isn't like he's had years or lots of meaningful NFL passes come his way. I don't think he will ever be a really good WR, but he could develop into a decent slot WR.
He didn't even catch 1 ball last year. Since the merger in 1970 only 1 WR did not catch 1 pass that was drafted in the first round. That WR is AJ Jenkins.

:eek:

Hammock Parties 08-19-2013 06:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 9899912)
Sylvester Morris
Was WAY better than this turd, even if it was only one season.

As a young homer, SlyMo got me hard in 2000.

DJ's left nut 08-19-2013 06:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9899865)
Is Baldwin the worst Chiefs draft pick ever? Possibly, though he's definitely top 3.
Nah - too late and not as terrible as guys like Jenkins.

Jackson, Blackledge and Sims were worse because they were so high in the draft. The difference between Baldwin busting and Sims busting is essentially an extra first rounder going bust (as it would take about that to move from 26 to 7).

That's how hugely damaging those high first round busts are. That's why Jackson is such a disastrous pick.

Every year there are 2-3 teams that get nothing from a late first rounder. It's just the nature of the beast. Baldwin's a disappointment, but historically, we'll have little to no recollection of him at all.

Hell, Anthony Hancock was the 11th overall and did little more than Baldwin. Elmo Wright went 16 and is the same animal. Sid Smith is the only other time the Chiefs has selected 26 - who? Yeah, exactly. Dude was never a starter for the Chiefs and was cut in 3 years.

You drama queens are out of your minds. Baldwin's nowhere near the worst pick in franchise history.

TEX 08-19-2013 06:02 PM
I don't know who was worse at his job, Baldwin or Pioli?

Chris Meck 08-19-2013 06:03 PM
Morris caught 48 passes as a rookie and then was injured, ending his career. That's bad luck, not a bust.

Hammock Parties 08-19-2013 06:03 PM
The fact we got Houston of that pick too is a big deal.

Sandy Vagina 08-19-2013 06:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 9899915)
He didn't even catch 1 ball last year. Since the merger in 1970 only 1 WR did not catch 1 pass that was drafted in the first round. That WR is AJ Jenkins.

:eek:
I hear you, and that's sure disappointing. Still doesn't mean the change of scenery can't help him become some kind of useful.

Chiefaholic 08-19-2013 06:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 9899908)
You can't fix lazy and poor work ethic.
If it's made clear that you have the option to make MILLIONS playing a game, or minimum wage bagging groceries, some people change. Neither of these guys have made a big enough payday to live a nice lifestyle without working outside football. If they want a second contract, they have to play to their potential.

SanDiego49er 08-19-2013 06:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9899923)
I hear you, and that's sure disappointing. Still doesn't mean the change of scenery can't help him become some kind of useful.
He's the some kind of useful you flush every morning....ROFL

kcxiv 08-19-2013 06:06 PM
Are people seriously arguing what piece of crap smells better here? Baldwin or Jenkins? Yeah, ill take that shit, because it smells a little worse.? come on now.

Sandy Vagina 08-19-2013 06:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 9899928)
He's the some kind of useful you flush every morning....ROFL
Alright, we'll see. I wouldn't bet either way on him, but I think you are quick to completely condemn him. No big deal either way. :D

DJ's left nut 08-19-2013 06:09 PM
Besides, the worst pick in franchise history will always be Steve Fuller.

As the 23rd overall selection in the 1979 draft, he was expected to be our next great signal caller. Joe Montana was the next quarterback taken.

Fuller started 25 games in his first 2 seasons where he threw 16 TDs to 26 INTs. He was sacked 86 times, had a QBR of 67 and lost his job to Bill Kenney.

That same year Joe Montana made the Pro Bowl and took his team to a championship.

That, my friends, is a very bad draft pick.

No, Jon Baldwin is not even on the radar in this discussion.

Simply Red 08-19-2013 06:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9899931)
Alright, we'll see. I wouldn't bet either way on him, but I think you are quick to completely condemn him. No big deal either way. :D
you're an uncanny diplomat, like I've never seen.

Carlota69 08-19-2013 06:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 9899915)
He didn't even catch 1 ball last year. Since the merger in 1970 only 1 WR did not catch 1 pass that was drafted in the first round. That WR is AJ Jenkins.

:eek:
He only played in 3 games and was only targeted once. Of course there a a few reasons I'm sure. Sucking is probably one of them but stop with that he didn't even catch pass yet, as if he plays every week, every year...

As for Jenkins, he came out of the University of Illinois as one of the most talented receivers in the draft. At Illinois, he caught passes and returned kicks, earning first team All-Big 10 Honors in his senior year. As a 49er, Jenkins played very little in his rookie season. Appearing in only three games, Jenkins was targeted only once in 2012, a pass that he dropped. Although he is widely considered a slot-receiver, the 49ers wanted to use him as a vertical threat, like the Chiefs use Dwayne Bowe. After just one season, the 49ers decided to part ways with Jenkins, making him the only player since 2000 to be traded the year after being drafted.

Mav 08-19-2013 06:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9899976)
He only played in 3 games and was only targeted once. Of course there a a few reasons I'm sure. Sucking is probably one of them but stop with that he didn't even catch pass yet, as if he plays every week, every year...

As for Jenkins, he came out of the University of Illinois as one of the most talented receivers in the draft. At Illinois, he caught passes and returned kicks, earning first team All-Big 10 Honors in his senior year. As a 49er, Jenkins played very little in his rookie season. Appearing in only three games, Jenkins was targeted only once in 2012, a pass that he dropped. Although he is widely considered a slot-receiver, the 49ers wanted to use him as a vertical threat, like the Chiefs use Dwayne Bowe. After just one season, the 49ers decided to part ways with Jenkins, making him the only player since 2000 to be traded the year after being drafted.
+1

Simplicity 08-19-2013 06:34 PM
We won a trade!

Setsuna 08-19-2013 06:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9899651)
That's saying a lot considering the ****ing garbage you spew around here on a daily basis.
If you were in danger, I'd save you without thinking twice.

BlackHelicopters 08-19-2013 06:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clayton Bibsby (Post 9900000)
If you were in danger, I'd save you without thinking twice.
Nothing wrong with the love between two men.

BigRedChief 08-19-2013 06:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9899916)
Was WAY better than this turd, even if it was only one season.

As a young homer, SlyMo got me hard in 2000.
I wish either one of these turds was as good as SlyMo. At least we got something out of him.

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-19-2013 06:46 PM
we've just failed at 1st rd WR draft choices . Baldwin will go on to be succesful with his next team ala Joe Horn. Just watch!

GordonGekko 08-19-2013 06:48 PM
Baldwin gonna be a 1000+ yard receiver in a couple years, watch...

RunKC 08-19-2013 06:48 PM
How the **** is Tyson Jackson a worse draft pick than Baldwin? Yeah he was picked higher, but he at least did something here.
He was an elite run stuffer a couple years ago and got 4 sacks.

The best play Baldwin ever made here didn't even count! He did nothing here. And he was a little pussy off the field.

GordonGekko 08-19-2013 06:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9900030)
I wish either one of these turds was as good as SlyMo. At least we got something out of him.
The way SlyMo was looking before the injury, he could potentially still be a Chief, like his 14th season at 36 years old. Such a shame, injuries suck.

BigRedChief 08-19-2013 06:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 9900043)
Baldwin gonna be a 1000+ yard receiver in a couple years, watch...
Maybe, but it wasn't going to happen here for whatever reason.

chiefzilla1501 08-19-2013 06:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9900046)
How the **** is Tyson Jackson a worse draft pick than Baldwin? Yeah he was picked higher, but he at least did something here.
He was an elite run stuffer a couple years ago and got 4 sacks.

The best play Baldwin ever made here didn't even count! He did nothing here. And he was a little pussy off the field.
Draft position has a lot to do with it

GordonGekko 08-19-2013 06:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9900046)
How the **** is Tyson Jackson a worse draft pick than Baldwin?...
They both are about equal in shit, but we are getting a bit more production out of TJax imo as well. It's just that 3rd overall is a high price to pay for a second string quality defender...

Stanley Nickels 08-19-2013 06:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 9900043)
Baldwin gonna be a 1000+ yard receiver in a couple years, watch...
Nothing thus far has indicated that you'll be correct, and even if you are, you still couldn't claim that he would've had the same stats if he were still a Chief.

KcMizzou 08-19-2013 06:53 PM
My best memory of Baldwin is a play that didn't count. Dude reached around a defender's mid-section and caught the ball behind his back. Got called back on a penalty. He hasn't caught a damn thing since.

GordonGekko 08-19-2013 06:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9900048)
Maybe, but it wasn't going to happen here for whatever reason.
I'm just going on the premise that the Chiefs are 'incapable' of maximizing the talent of their players. Once they are free they go onto become productive, it's karma. Rich Gannon fits snugly into this area, although he was hecka better than Baldwin don't get me wrong.

Squatch 08-19-2013 06:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 9899883)
He's lazy, no work ethic and a weakling. He can't even get off the jam at the line of scrimmage.
From what I've read about the guy it sounds like his heart isn't really in it. Maybe that will change in KC?

GordonGekko 08-19-2013 06:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 9900064)
My best memory of Baldwin is a play that didn't count. Dude reached around a defender's mid-section and caught the ball behind his back. Got called back on a penalty. He hasn't caught a damn thing since.
He also had Matt Cassel for most of his career, so...

DaFace 08-19-2013 06:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 9900043)
Baldwin gonna be a 1000+ yard receiver in a couple years, watch...
I hate to tell you this, but it's 2013, not 2011.

Coogs 08-19-2013 07:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9899845)
wow ... Wylie and McCluster 2nd string


do our WR's suck major ass or what
Actually, in the 1st half Friday, Wylie, McCluster, and Avery all subbed in at the same time on a couple of occasions. When they were on the field, we had some of our better plays on offense.

chiefroyalfan 08-19-2013 07:05 PM
Hang it up Reid you're getting ****ed

Brock 08-19-2013 07:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 9900043)
Baldwin gonna be a 1000+ yard receiver in a couple years, watch...
Charles Rogers 2

Coogs 08-19-2013 07:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Squatch (Post 9900066)
From what I've read about the guy it sounds like his heart isn't really in it. Maybe that will change in KC?
If it does, it does. If it doesn't, it doesn't. No big thing either way to me. I'm just glad Baldwin is gone. Don't even care if Baldwin turns it around, just glad he isn't a Chief anymore. If Jenkins does anything, it is just a bonus.

GordonGekko 08-19-2013 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9900093)
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Baldwin is a busting bust thus far, don't get me wrong but that is all-time NFL bust right there. Wasn't he #2 overall?

And also for the extreme haters, remember that Baldwin had Cassel for most of his short pro career thus far, so that amounts to something. If he had Peyton Manning I think things could be a bit different <-- speculation.


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