Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 12843623)

Credit due. Credit given.

Thanks for the correct information.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12843686)

I owe it all to the source. I trusted it from the start, but damn that is bold.

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 12843623)

Credit due. Credit given.

Thanks for the correct information.

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 12828887)

If the Chiefs manage to grab Mahomes I officially claim him as my "adopt a Chief".</br></br>

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 12841121)

Just think fellas...24 hrs from now we'll be at pick 4 of the first round.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12838140)

We either believe there's a legit QBOTF this year and go get him or we trade down and build up the team in one of the deepest drafts in the last 10 years to prepare for one next year.

This is the choice we have to make...

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 14790137)

I kind of feel like I should place a 50 gallon drum of flushable wet wipes in here.

...because a lot of you shit yourselves in this thread.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12827995)

Im not sold on Mahomes, but if the Chiefs are, then im all in.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12830738)

And if he didn't have that issue, he'd be the #1 Overall. The only reason we can even discuss the guy is because he has some negative traits.

People are excited about him, and he's being talked about as a 1st round pick for all the reasons you carefully chose not to mention.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12830926)

I agree, and it was certainly my initial concern with him.

I hate the "we can fix his mechanics" line, as that rarely ever works out. These guys are who they are.

What makes Mahomes intriguing is that, at times, he really makes his non-traditional mechanics work for him.

All of a sudden it goes from "shit mechanics" to "multiple throwing angles".

The more and more i think about it, the more i believe that it's not his mechanics that are the most concerning, it's whether or not he can pick up an NFL offense and read defenses quickly and effeciently.

IF he can read a defense, then those "poor mechanics" will start to look like "unique throwing angles", as he'll be able to anticipate his recievers coming open, not panic, and use his natural talent to deliver a strike. When you watch his college vids, accuracy isn't really an issue for him when he's playing relaxed.

If he can't, he'll mis-read defenders, panic, and force passes thus resulting into turnovers. All of a sudden, those poor mechanics will look like....well...poor mechanics, as the ball will sail etc, like most rushed, erratic, errant passes do.

Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 12828724)

Everyone talking about Mahomes like he's the next Cam Newton ( minus the meaningful wins, confidence, athletic ability, and accolades during college play )

And I hate Cam Newton.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12831420)

Mahomes has smaller hands than the other guys IIRC.

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12835050)

Chiefs DL drafted between 1st-3rd rounds, 2001-2009

3. Eric Downing (2001)
1. Ryan Sims (2002)
2. Eddie Freeman (2002)
2. Junior Siavii (2004)
1. Tamba Hali (2006)
2. Turk McBride (2007)
3. Tank Tyler (2007)
1. Glenn Dorsey (2008)
1. Tyson Jackson (2009)
3. Alex Magee (2009)

BUT DON'T YOU ****ING DARE SPEND 2 HIGH PICKS IN THE SPAN OF 3 DRAFTS ON THE QB POSITION! DON'T YOU DARE!

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12839277)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Latest I&#39;m hearing...might see a run on QBs, but it&#39;ll be late 1st not top 15. Chance only 1 QB in top 15. Then 3-4 go late 1st.</p>&mdash; Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) <a href="https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/857036691906981890">April 26, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12839920)

I will die laughing if Horsey pisses away a first on McCaffrey ROFL

Poor man's, taller version of Woodhead

Originally Posted by F150 (Post 14790146)

cant stop laughing

Originally Posted by maninthemiddle (Post 12828368)

I've got a bad feeling the top 3 QBs are gone by pick 13. I think AZ is the firewall for Mahomes. I'm going to assume the asking price to move up from 27 to 10-12 is a 1st and 2nd this year and a 1st next year. If they really love Mahomes they should pull the trigger.

Now if he makes it past AZ the next hurdle is beating Houston's trade offer. Us having a second rounder and theirs being traded away could have a big impact on if we land Mahomes or not.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12830926)

I agree, and it was certainly my initial concern with him.

I hate the "we can fix his mechanics" line, as that rarely ever works out. These guys are who they are.

What makes Mahomes intriguing is that, at times, he really makes his non-traditional mechanics work for him.

All of a sudden it goes from "shit mechanics" to "multiple throwing angles".

The more and more i think about it, the more i believe that it's not his mechanics that are the most concerning, it's whether or not he can pick up an NFL offense and read defenses quickly and effeciently.

IF he can read a defense, then those "poor mechanics" will start to look like "unique throwing angles", as he'll be able to anticipate his recievers coming open, not panic, and use his natural talent to deliver a strike. When you watch his college vids, accuracy isn't really an issue for him when he's playing relaxed.

If he can't, he'll mis-read defenders, panic, and force passes thus resulting into turnovers. All of a sudden, those poor mechanics will look like....well...poor mechanics, as the ball will sail etc, like most rushed, erratic, errant passes do.

Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 12828440)

Trade up for Watson or Foster. Give our first four picks (1,2,3,3) to move into (#16-20 range). If they aren't there, trade back for 2018 first and second round picks to get us into position to try again for a QB next year.

We either need to get the QBOTF or a guy who could propel us to the Super Bowl this year.

I don't believe in Mahommes, Trubisky, or Kizer at all.

Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 12828724)

Everyone talking about Mahomes like he's the next Cam Newton ( minus the meaningful wins, confidence, athletic ability, and accolades during college play )

And I hate Cam Newton.

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12828280)

I have said Mahomes to KC for awhile. They love him and I've heard the rumblings as well.

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12827964)

Mahomes makes no sense to me for the Chiefs

He is the exact opposite of what the Chiefs' offense is about.

Reid going to change his offense almost completely?

Mahomes is a spread-them-out-playaction-pass type offense, not WCO dink and dunk

McCaffrey would be a perfect fit for the Chiefs

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 14790137)

I kind of feel like I should place a 50 gallon drum of flushable wet wipes in here.

...because a lot of you shit yourselves in this thread.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14790201)

The funny thing is Black Bob and Tigger were known to be 2 of the bigger dumbasses on this board at the time. Top 5 for certain.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12830707)

Patty Football is going to find out soon that these are all picks in the NFL. He has some seriously bad habits that translate to turnover machine. It's almost like he learned how to play QB by cheesing on Madden.

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12841148)

They can absolutely compete. But not at RB.

Why the hell have we not seen a truly successful white RB in the league since Riggins? That was 1984.

Do they choose to not play the position? They play all kinds of athletic positions like LB, DB, DT, OT, and WR, and they do just fine. Why not RB? What's their problem?

Teams clearly aren't racist towards them and selecting black guys for the sake of their skin color. So why haven't we seen a good white feature RB in forever?

It's not a ****ing myth. It's reality. Successful starting white RBs are as rare in this league as Asians.

Deal with it. White people are well represented in all kinds of athletic events. So what if they can't play RB?

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12841232)

Why are there so few black swimmers? They are just as capable of being great swimmers as white people!

Well, yes, black people can swim. Some of them are pretty fast in the water. Good enough to compete in the Olympics? Common enough at that stage of competition to make people not raise an eyebrow when they see a black swimmer?

I'm not being racist here. These are facts. These are numbers. Participation numbers at the highest level of competition.

That's the exact same boat white RBs are in. Fantastic athletes, I'm sure. So when 99.9% of them turn into FBs and shitty scatbacks who aren't as talented as the black midget scatbacks, I mean...

That's just reality. I'm sorry, but it is. Crying about it and labeling it a "myth" just makes you look like a fool.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12830707)

Patty Football is going to find out soon that these are all picks in the NFL. He has some seriously bad habits that translate to turnover machine. It's almost like he learned how to play QB by cheesing on Madden.

http://giant.gfycat.com/AgonizingCorruptAztecant.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-01-2015/Vxmq1G.gif

http://dabearsbros.com/wp-content/up...mes-BadINT.gif

http://s3.amazonaws.com/br-cdn/temp_...gif?1492287317

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0Iy2r...ized-large.gif

https://media.profootballfocus.com/2016/08/Mahomes.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/xUA7aM...ized-large.gif

Here's a preview:

http://giant.gfycat.com/FearfulEuphoricJunebug.gif

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14790361)

Hilarious that your main criticism is one of his biggest strengths. I think a lot of people underestimated his arm strength and vision. That’s where the Manziel comparison falls apart.

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14790361)

Hilarious that your main criticism is one of his biggest strengths. I think a lot of people underestimated his arm strength and vision. That’s where the Manziel comparison falls apart.

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 12827977)

**** Mccaffrey who the **** wants to draft this douche. He sucks and will not be good in the NFL. Draft a rb and a white one when you can get the same ****ing player in round three or four. I'd be on the bandwagon tp fire Dorsey if he drafts him

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14790406)

Scouts didn’t like Pat bc of his decision making. And yeah some of it was bad, but it wasn’t his fault. You guys had the worst defense in CFB. I’d Pat didn’t score every drive it was gonna be a loss.

No wonder he was so aggressive. But hey great for us. That helped him fall to us.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14790406)

Scouts didn’t like Pat bc of his decision making. And yeah some of it was bad, but it wasn’t his fault. You guys had the worst defense in CFB. I’d Pat didn’t score every drive it was gonna be a loss.

No wonder he was so aggressive. But hey great for us. That helped him fall to us.

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14790318)

What qualifies you to say that? Were you a big proponent of drafting Pat?

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 14790209)

Holy **** I remember now on how bad Clay evaluated our savior ROFL

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 12827977)

**** Mccaffrey who the **** wants to draft this douche. He sucks and will not be good in the NFL. Draft a rb and a white one when you can get the same ****ing player in round three or four. I'd be on the bandwagon tp fire Dorsey if he drafts him

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 14790426)

Find something where I was against him, cousin ****er.

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14790719)

That won’t work, turd. You ripped folks for not wanting Pat but you had 4 posts here on the thread where you couldve corrected them but chose not to. That’s because you weren’t on board either apparently.


Take a few of those wet wipes and doosh out your ass. You talked out of it.

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12841148)

They can absolutely compete. But not at RB.

Why the hell have we not seen a truly successful white RB in the league since Riggins? That was 1984.

Do they choose to not play the position? They play all kinds of athletic positions like LB, DB, DT, OT, and WR, and they do just fine. Why not RB? What's their problem?

Teams clearly aren't racist towards them and selecting black guys for the sake of their skin color. So why haven't we seen a good white feature RB in forever?

It's not a ****ing myth. It's reality. Successful starting white RBs are as rare in this league as Asians.

Deal with it. White people are well represented in all kinds of athletic events. So what if they can't play RB?

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 12827977)

**** Mccaffrey who the **** wants to draft this douche. He sucks and will not be good in the NFL. Draft a rb and a white one when you can get the same ****ing player in round three or four. I'd be on the bandwagon tp fire Dorsey if he drafts him

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12841232)

Why are there so few black swimmers? They are just as capable of being great swimmers as white people!

Well, yes, black people can swim. Some of them are pretty fast in the water. Good enough to compete in the Olympics? Common enough at that stage of competition to make people not raise an eyebrow when they see a black swimmer?

I'm not being racist here. These are facts. These are numbers. Participation numbers at the highest level of competition.

That's the exact same boat white RBs are in. Fantastic athletes, I'm sure. So when 99.9% of them turn into FBs and shitty scatbacks who aren't as talented as the black midget scatbacks, I mean...

That's just reality. I'm sorry, but it is. Crying about it and labeling it a "myth" just makes you look like a fool.

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14790782)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs have re-signed WR Gehrig Dieter. He’s back in the fold for further development with the Super Bowl champs after finishing the season on the practice squad.</p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1227343535663239168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14790782)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs have re-signed WR Gehrig Dieter. He’s back in the fold for further development with the Super Bowl champs after finishing the season on the practice squad.</p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1227343535663239168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 12828397)

All three of those guys are bleh.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12831967)

Yeah unfortunately there was no indication of how much they might be willing to give up or how far they would go, but, McCaffrey and Mahomes would both likely require trades into the top 12 to get, if not higher. So, maybe they are willing to go there?

Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 12828440)

Trade up for Watson or Foster. Give our first four picks (1,2,3,3) to move into (#16-20 range). If they aren't there, trade back for 2018 first and second round picks to get us into position to try again for a QB next year.

We either need to get the QBOTF or a guy who could propel us to the Super Bowl this year.

I don't believe in Mahommes, Trubisky, or Kizer at all.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12830936)

Mahomes motion and footwork need work. His motion is bad and his footwork is atrocious. None of it is repeatable.

And I agree that all the prospects are going to need some work but I think the fact that Mahomes can throw over the mountains has fooled people into thinking he's a great prospect. Nevermind that he'll realistically never use more than 75% of that arm strength. It's like drafting a WR who runs a 4.2 but needs major work on his route running and other fundamental things like that. People are going to fool themselves that if they just correct those things they're going to have the best WR in the league.
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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 12830968)

I watched the videos of Mahomes and 1st thing I thought - this guy's a baseball player, not a QB. Then he told Gruden, he got this way from playing shortstop.

That's not good. It's ok once in a while but with his short height, he's gonna have a lot of tipped balls.

Just don't think you can 'unlearn' his habits.

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12837885)

Hell no

Chances that Mahomes falls to us ... minimal
Chances that we take Mahomes even if he falls to us ... minimal

double minimal ... odds are shite


unless you can cancel it without losing any cash, then knock yourself out. :)

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 12828169)

McCaffery would be a great fit, but Cook would be better.

Mahomes has been 100% my pick all year, before he became a first round QB.

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 14791085)

20/20 hindsight is so good... and it's not fair to go back and look at these posts, but I learned that CP isn't fair after being told to chug antifreeze after my first post... :drool:

Imagine if we would have had a Trubisky in the Fisher draft when we had the #1 overall pick... Mahomes was our destiny.

Originally Posted by ScareCrowe (Post 14790456)

I seem to remember he thought that entire class was bad & the next class ('18) was the year to take a QB.

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 14790854)

Man this thread is a shit-show to go back and read. I can't say much because I didn't pay attention to this draft much at all leading up to it. I totally ignored it and figured we'd stand pat at 27 and take BPA, definitely thought that wasn't gonna be a QB.

LMAO

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14791215)

This is why I insist that anyone that says "wait till next year bro" should be kicked in the nuts as hard as possible.

Originally Posted by Shoes (Post 14790367)

Not that I disagree with the main point SNR is trying to make here but god damn do I love these posts now that McCaffrey is a top 3 RB in the league (maybe #1).

McCaffrey is probably the exception to the rule but all time post here.

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 12827958)

It's happening.gif

For Mahomes.

**** white RBs.

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12827964)

Mahomes makes no sense to me for the Chiefs

He is the exact opposite of what the Chiefs' offense is about.

Reid going to change his offense almost completely?

Mahomes is a spread-them-out-playaction-pass type offense, not WCO dink and dunk

McCaffrey would be a perfect fit for the Chiefs

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 12827977)

**** Mccaffrey who the **** wants to draft this douche. He sucks and will not be good in the NFL. Draft a rb and a white one when you can get the same ****ing player in round three or four. I'd be on the bandwagon tp fire Dorsey if he drafts him

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 12828003)

Nobody knows who we have targeted for certain. I like Mahomes but a white RB? I mean seriously, he's white and not to mention an RB in round 1 is a wasted pick. You can get one in the third that will be just as good. Good blocking makes more difference than the RB.

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 15157976)

You morons realize those guys were right, right? Snr is spot on.. McCaffrey would have been a disaster of a pick. Mahomes decides championships. Little Ed decides fantasy make believe championships

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 14791169)

Who's Zach Cunningham?

Exactly.

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 12828887)

If the Chiefs manage to grab Mahomes I officially claim him as my "adopt a Chief".</br></br>

Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 16872083)

You did it!

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12828218)

Alex Smith averages 2 touchdowns a game in the playoffs.
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12830707)

Patty Football is going to find out soon that these are all picks in the NFL. He has some seriously bad habits that translate to turnover machine. It's almost like he learned how to play QB by cheesing on Madden.

http://giant.gfycat.com/AgonizingCorruptAztecant.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-01-2015/Vxmq1G.gif

http://dabearsbros.com/wp-content/up...mes-BadINT.gif

http://s3.amazonaws.com/br-cdn/temp_...gif?1492287317

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0Iy2r...ized-large.gif

https://media.profootballfocus.com/2016/08/Mahomes.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/xUA7aM...ized-large.gif

Here's a preview:

http://giant.gfycat.com/FearfulEuphoricJunebug.gif

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12831977)

DO IT NEXT YEAR FOR A REAL QB

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12830926)

What makes Mahomes intriguing is that, at times, he really makes his non-traditional mechanics work for him.

All of a sudden it goes from "shit mechanics" to "multiple throwing angles".

The more and more i think about it, the more i believe that it's not his mechanics that are the most concerning, it's whether or not he can pick up an NFL offense and read defenses quickly and effeciently.

IF he can read a defense, then those "poor mechanics" will start to look like "unique throwing angles", as he'll be able to anticipate his recievers coming open, not panic, and use his natural talent to deliver a strike.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16872107)

thank god coach reid fixed him LMAO

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16872120)

*fix* him? Mahomes still does insane shit like that on the reg. He's just enough of a unicorn to make it work for him.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16872126)

we all remember that game in denver where mahomes regressed to his earlier habits

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16872126)

we all remember that game in denver where mahomes regressed to his earlier habits