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Raiderhater 12-01-2018 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13925179)
Fair point. I just find it hard to believe it was all about the public videos. I would assume the Chiefs also learned a few things within hours of the video release. Maybe stuff we haven't seen or heard about yet.

Entirely possible. All I have to go on is what we are told. And from what we've been told I have a question or two.

Hunt should have made better decisions. He should not have laid hands on the young woman for anything other defensive purposes. I do not condone his decisions and actions, and those decisions and actions are ultimately responsible for his situation. Even if he didn't lie and is getting hit only because of the video, it is still his fault. But if he didn't lie and the franchise is lying to cover their ass I would like to know about it. I would like to know just how much hope I should invest in this team.

Fish 12-01-2018 11:56 AM

https://i.imgur.com/BFeXbOy.jpg

Brewski 12-01-2018 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13925074)
Obviously there's the video. But did she actually use racial slurs? Did they politely kick them out because they were underage? There's still a lot of details to the story where we're relying on hunts entourage for truth.


Since when was 19 considered "underage"? We all know that dog ain't gonna hunt. And if it's true that Hunt tried to force her to have sex against her will with a member of his entourage, then he deserved every name she might've thrown at him, and more.

All we know for certain is what we see in the video. Everything else is nothing more than he said/she said while in CYA mode, and should be taken with a huge grain of salt. The video clearly shows Hunt escalating the situation by leaving his room to confront her in the hallway, and ends with him kicking her while she's down. There's no way to sugarcoat that or justify it away with lame excuses that can't be proven one way or the other. He had to be cut.

Red Dawg 12-01-2018 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13925273)

Lol. It wasnt his day off though.

The Franchise 12-01-2018 12:15 PM

We should have drafted Alvin Kamara. ****.

Chiefs4TheWin 12-01-2018 12:19 PM

Guy kneels for anthem "Get him off the team!" Guy beats a woman "What the **** clark? Over reaction!"

lol

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 12-01-2018 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs4TheWin (Post 13925338)
Guy kneels for anthem "Get him off the team!" Guy beats a woman "What the **** clark? Over reaction!"

lol

Hunt did kneel for the anthem before

Brewski 12-01-2018 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 13925112)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So the woman attacked by Kareem Hunt also indicates (but doesn&#39;t directly say) that Hunt and/or his friends may have stole the sim card out of her phone. That&#39;s interesting.</p>&mdash; Jason Cole (@JasonCole62) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonCole62/status/1068909421496070146?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 1, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The other woman (the one who wasn't kicked) does get her phone stolen from her by a member of Hunt's posse there at one point as she's trying to record what was happening. That much is clearly visible in the video. At least it was in the video I saw.

Titty Meat 12-01-2018 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13925332)
We should have drafted Alvin Kamara. ****.

Great take

TEX 12-01-2018 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13925206)
Respectfully disagree. We have a very deep stable of capable RBs and Hunt was not head and shoulders above both Williams men and Ware. If there was ever a position we could afford an injury or screw up off the field it was at RB.:hmmm:

Hunt was head and shoulders better. He NEVER fumbled (well there was that one time on his very first NFL carry) and that is huge. Also could catch just about anything thrown his way from anyplace on the field. He could also turn nothing into something. He could do it all very well - better than the vast majority of RB's in the league. He will be missed...

IF one of the other RB's fumbles at a critical moment, you may change your opinion.

Marcellus 12-01-2018 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs4TheWin (Post 13925338)
Guy kneels for anthem "Get him off the team!" Guy beats a woman "What the **** clark? Over reaction!"

lol

I would agree had Hunt actually harmed a woman.

WhiteWhale 12-01-2018 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs4TheWin (Post 13925338)
Guy kneels for anthem "Get him off the team!" Guy beats a woman "What the **** clark? Over reaction!"

lol

Who the **** are all these people who wanted someone off the team for kneeling? Houston Kneeled. Conley kneeled. Yet no calls to remove them for it.

People wanted Peters gone because he's a ****.

Why do you keep repeating this lie?

ILikeBigTiddys 12-01-2018 05:31 PM

I can’t wait until Kareem gets PAID!!! by another team and gashes our nonexistent defense next year!

Bitchez be acting like dudes so they get treated like dudes. She was the initial aggressor and Kareem defended himself.

chiefzilla1501 12-01-2018 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brewski (Post 13925290)
Since when was 19 considered "underage"? We all know that dog ain't gonna hunt. And if it's true that Hunt tried to force her to have sex against her will with a member of his entourage, then he deserved every name she might've thrown at him, and more.

All we know for certain is what we see in the video. Everything else is nothing more than he said/she said while in CYA mode, and should be taken with a huge grain of salt. The video clearly shows Hunt escalating the situation by leaving his room to confront her in the hallway, and ends with him kicking her while she's down. There's no way to sugarcoat that or justify it away with lame excuses that can't be proven one way or the other. He had to be cut.

19 is underaged drinking.

dirk digler 12-01-2018 05:44 PM

More to the story. Police never followed up and watched the video since it was misdemeanor offense and probably because no one seemed harmed.

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Although Kareem Hunt was caught on tape attacking a woman in a Cleveland hotel in February, and although the woman called police, told them she wanted to press charges and asked them to view the surveillance video, officers never did so.

The Cleveland Police Department told USA Today that officers knew there were security cameras but never obtained the hotel’s surveillance video because “detectives only follow up on felonies. This is a misdemeanor.”
That answer bolsters what advocates for domestic violence survivors often say: Police simply don’t prioritize these investigations.

Although the woman called police immediately and said Hunt assaulted her, police did not arrest Hunt, and he never faced any criminal charges.


The Franchise 12-01-2018 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13925410)
Great take

Considering DJ and I brought it up before the draft.... **** off.

Raiderhater 12-01-2018 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 13926006)
More to the story. Police never followed up and watched the video since it was misdemeanor offense and probably because no one seemed harmed.

This possibly answers my questions about who is lying. Link?

Red Dawg 12-01-2018 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13925989)
19 is underaged drinking.

Not in Lawrence Kansas.

Brewski 12-01-2018 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ILikeBigTiddys (Post 13925957)
Bitchez be acting like dudes so they get treated like dudes. She was the initial aggressor and Kareem defended himself.


Riiiight. Just defending himself. That's why we see Hunt leaving the safety of his room to escalate the situation by confronting her in the hallway at the beginning of the video. Cause self defense n such.

Points for edginess tho...

NJChiefsFan 12-01-2018 09:38 PM

Knowing that he wasn't playing this year, as I process this, it sucks and he is an incredible talent, but RB is a position you can fix without having to give up a ton to do it. Hunt and Charles are two examples.

Short-term though I think Hunt got a little over-looked in this offense. I think I like Ware as much or more than a decent amount of Chiefs fans, but Hunt just offered so much both in the backfield and on routes.

Dierdorf72 12-02-2018 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13923321)
I think I should stop being an NFL fan, I'm really considering it.

I was there then Mahomes got drafted yet I realize with Clark Hunt this team isn't gonna win.

Come on over to college football, man. It's one of the best decisions I've ever made.

RunKC 12-02-2018 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13925332)
We should have drafted Alvin Kamara. ****.

Kareem was a similar type of back as Spencer Ware. Darrell Williams is also a similar type of player.

Seems like Andy likes stronger power backs with agility that can stay balanced and force missed tackles.

SAUTO 12-02-2018 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 13924108)
100% correct.

Hunt is an idiot from being there in the first place to being dragged away at the end.

Anything the drunk girl said doesn't matter.

She could have called his mom every name in the book and Khunt should have known that she was baiting his dumb ass.

They have a rookie symposium every ****ing year to teach these guys to avoid EXACTLY these types of situations.

But Khunt is a ****ing dumbass who took ALL the bait :

1. Party bus with alcohol
2. Hanging with other random people that you don't know well
3. Party in a hotel room
4. Fight spills out into public + into camera view
5. Drunk girl gets the best of pro afflete by n-wording at pro afflete.

Khunt is a walking cliché of when keeping it real goes wrong.

Ever seen those clips on Chappelle's Show?

He needs to make a new one starring Khunt..

It was his apartment. Not a hotel room. He said he had moved in 2 days before

SAUTO 12-02-2018 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13924115)
This makes me laugh every time.

What's funny about that ?

Chiefs4TheWin 12-02-2018 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13925765)
Who the **** are all these people who wanted someone off the team for kneeling? Houston Kneeled. Conley kneeled. Yet no calls to remove them for it.

People wanted Peters gone because he's a ****.

Why do you keep repeating this lie?

I saw a bunch of people who wanted him out because of the stupid anthem crap. Of course a year later it's looks just as stupid as it should have been then, so they started the "But he a bad person" excuse.

Pointing out the irony that people wanted someone gone for a non violent issue vs calling it an overreaction when someone is violent, is FUNNY. That's why I brought it up.

Why so serious?

Dierdorf72 12-02-2018 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Yosef_Malkovitch (Post 13923496)
This. This. So much this.

Clark is a freaking idiot. When Brady holds another SB trophy, Clark can polish his good citizenship award. The authorities decided not to file charges. This is not the same as the Ray Rice incident. That "kick" at the end of the video was more of a shove and probably didn't even leave a mark. It was stupid, immature, and shouldn't have been done. It did not warrant a release.

At the very least, if you decide you don't want one of the top 5 RBs in the NFL anymore, you suspend him and then trade him. Get something back. Now? Nothing in return, and he can sign wherever he wants. Pray that it's not New England.

I mean, Leonard F'n Little killed a woman while driving drunk during the 1999 STL championship season...yet he was able to remain on the team for a couple of years. I just don't know what else to say about this current NFL anymore.

kcpasco 12-02-2018 10:53 AM

And what could Roger have done to Clark if he didn’t back off and kept trying to investigate? Clark is a ****ing puppet to Roger and it’s sickening.

Mecca 12-02-2018 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dierdorf72 (Post 13927504)
I mean, Leonard F'n Little killed a woman while driving drunk during the 1999 STL championship season...yet he was able to remain on the team for a couple of years. I just don't know what else to say about this current NFL anymore.

The NFL itself does not care about anything other than the bottom line.

They only reason guys get suspended is because they don't want the thug reputation the NBA picked up a decade ago and it hurt them. Social media and money is why these guys get suspended, in the true sense of the word the NFL doesn't give a rats ass about anything other than it affecting their bottom line.

Clyde Frog 12-02-2018 11:22 AM

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4872f52c37.jpg

I feel a lot of truth to this. T Hunt was my second favorite current Chief, right behind the savior. So much so that I have his jersey, which, now I can’t even wear. I know a lot of people in here still hate LJ but he seems like an alright dude on twitter and he’s still a big fan of the Chiefs.


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Best22 12-02-2018 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dierdorf72 (Post 13927504)
I mean, Leonard F'n Little killed a woman while driving drunk during the 1999 STL championship season...yet he was able to remain on the team for a couple of years. I just don't know what else to say about this current NFL anymore.

Different era

Rod Smith got involved in domestic abuse and nobody cared

Red Dawg 12-02-2018 11:28 AM

It used to be no big deal. A woman gets out of line and she got put in her place. Now you're asshole. Sure it looks bad but there are far worse things all over such as murder. Women need to shut their mouths and walk away when confronting a man if they don't want to be treated like one. I do not condon her Kareems actions at all. Probably had drugs in his system but that stupid girl has some balls getting in his face screaming at him then complaining at the out come.

Sassy Squatch 12-02-2018 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13927599)
It used to be no big deal. A woman gets out of line and she got put in her place. Now you're asshole. Sure it looks bad but there are far worse things all over such as murder. Women need to shut their mouths and walk away when confronting a man if they don't want to be treated like one. I do not condon her Kareems actions at all. Probably had drugs in his system but that stupid girl has some balls getting in his face screaming at him then complaining at the out come.

JFC...

bowener 12-02-2018 11:31 AM

I’m very late to this thread, and don’t really see the point of making a comment about Hunt or the incident or his release. I just want to know where I can trade in the $100 Hunt jersey I bought for my girlfriend a month ago.

DrunkBassGuitar 12-02-2018 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13927602)
JFC...

how many times do you think the cops have been to this dude's house?

The Franchise 12-02-2018 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13927599)
It used to be no big deal. A woman gets out of line and she got put in her place. Now you're asshole. Sure it looks bad but there are far worse things all over such as murder. Women need to shut their mouths and walk away when confronting a man if they don't want to be treated like one. I do not condon her Kareems actions at all. Probably had drugs in his system but that stupid girl has some balls getting in his face screaming at him then complaining at the out come.

You are literally a reerun when it comes to EVERYTHING.

Chiefs4TheWin 12-02-2018 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13927599)
It used to be no big deal. A woman gets out of line and she got put in her place. Now you're asshole. Sure it looks bad but there are far worse things all over such as murder. Women need to shut their mouths and walk away when confronting a man if they don't want to be treated like one. I do not condon her Kareems actions at all. Probably had drugs in his system but that stupid girl has some balls getting in his face screaming at him then complaining at the out come.

We should hang you in the town square for witchcraft. Sure it looks bad, but sorcery is sorcery. It used to be no big deal.

Red Dawg 12-02-2018 11:45 AM

I was being sarcastic. You actually think that first sentence is a real belief? Its a joke.

What a bunch of idiots you three sound like.

IowaHawkeyeChief 12-07-2018 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13925168)
I've asked that question as well. She was clearly outside the room trying to get back in when the video started. If that video exists, then the hour prior to that video also exists.

They had her phone... would you leave without your phone?

Red Dawg 12-07-2018 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 13940895)
They had her phone... would you leave without your phone?

How about calling security or the cops before you go crazy. Clearly Kareem didn't because of what happening in the room. Illegal activity was going on for sure.

IowaHawkeyeChief 12-07-2018 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13940913)
How about calling security or the cops before you go crazy. Clearly Kareem didn't because of what happening in the room. Illegal activity was going on for sure.

That's my point, give her back her phone and give her $40 for transportation since she came on your bus... Don't escalate it in the hallway, dumb decisions in this day have real and quick consequences...

chinaski 12-07-2018 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 13927611)
I’m very late to this thread, and don’t really see the point of making a comment about Hunt or the incident or his release. I just want to know where I can trade in the $100 Hunt jersey I bought for my girlfriend a month ago.

Just tell her it's Clark's jersey. :shrug:

threebag 12-07-2018 11:50 AM

https://media.giphy.com/media/FPnePyvabMGUo/giphy.gif

Add a jersey and the chick and this could be a work of art

suzzer99 12-07-2018 01:59 PM

A week ago our biggest worry was Berry's heel. Feels like a month ago.

Good times.

Rain Man 12-07-2018 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 13940895)
They had her phone... would you leave without your phone?

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13940913)
How about calling security or the cops before you go crazy. Clearly Kareem didn't because of what happening in the room. Illegal activity was going on for sure.

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 13940935)
That's my point, give her back her phone and give her $40 for transportation since she came on your bus... Don't escalate it in the hallway, dumb decisions in this day have real and quick consequences...

I have a theory that she was taking video that Kareem didn't want to go public, for whatever reason. So they took her phone and booted her. Now everyone is in a pickle. She won't leave without her phone, and they won't give it back because they can't trust her to delete the stuff. Neither side wants to call security and escalate it, so Kareem came out to seek peace. But then it blew up into a short but fateful scuffle.

Remember afterward when she claimed that they took the sim card out of her phone? It's pretty obvious what was happening.

I kind of wonder who eventually did call security. Was it one of the two parties? A guest in another room?

The sad truth is probably that Kareem could've called security without repercussions. He was a prominent guest. That type of guest can pull security aside and say, "Hey, she's a crazy. Can you just send her home? We don't want any trouble." Even if she called the police afterwards and claimed that her phone was taken, that would give you time to destroy the phone or at least get it out of the room where you can destroy with a hammer at your leisure the next day. But Kareem was too inexperienced to know that he likely held sway with the hotel in a dispute with a bar chick.

SuperBowl4 12-07-2018 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 13927509)
And what could Roger have done to Clark if he didn’t back off and kept trying to investigate? Clark is a ****ing puppet to Roger and it’s sickening.

We don't need Kareem Hunt Bro. We have Spencer Ware and Chandrick West. Clark Hunt did the right thing. Time to move on. Kareem Hunt is his own worst enemy. He lied. Dishonesty at the work place gets you fired. Get a clue. GO :arrow:!

NJChiefsFan 12-07-2018 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13927599)
It used to be no big deal. A woman gets out of line and she got put in her place. Now you're asshole. Sure it looks bad but there are far worse things all over such as murder. Women need to shut their mouths and walk away when confronting a man if they don't want to be treated like one. I do not condon her Kareems actions at all. Probably had drugs in his system but that stupid girl has some balls getting in his face screaming at him then complaining at the out come.

"Hey at least it ain't murder". That's a good way to go through life.

I spend every day trying to help my students take responsibility for their actions and not take other situations to try to minimize what they've done. I should hang this post on my board.

Chris Meck 12-07-2018 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13927599)
It used to be no big deal. A woman gets out of line and she got put in her place. Now you're asshole. Sure it looks bad but there are far worse things all over such as murder. Women need to shut their mouths and walk away when confronting a man if they don't want to be treated like one. I do not condon her Kareems actions at all. Probably had drugs in his system but that stupid girl has some balls getting in his face screaming at him then complaining at the out come.


Wow are you a ****ing shitty excuse for a ****ing human being.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-07-2018 06:04 PM

Tucked Daddy, folks

Baby Lee 12-07-2018 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13925765)
Who the **** are all these people who wanted someone off the team for kneeling? Houston Kneeled. Conley kneeled. Yet no calls to remove them for it.

People wanted Peters gone because he's a ****.

Why do you keep repeating this lie?

Moral indignation is an aphrodisiac

SuperBowl4 12-07-2018 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 13941932)
Wow are you a ****ing shitty excuse for a ****ing human being.

very judgmental

Chris Meck 12-07-2018 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 13941967)
very judgmental


goddamned right.

Red Dawg 12-07-2018 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 13941932)
Wow are you a ****ing shitty excuse for a ****ing human being.

Posted via Mobile Device

stevieray 12-07-2018 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 13941972)
goddamned right.

Meanwhile, women ARE getting more violent.

but hey, let's not stop the hanging over an altercation of two intoxicated people.

TEX 12-07-2018 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 13941522)
We don't need Kareem Hunt Bro. We have Spencer Ware and Chandrick West. Clark Hunt did the right thing. Time to move on. Kareem Hunt is his own worst enemy. He lied. Dishonesty at the work place gets you fired. Get a clue. GO :arrow:!

ROFL "Time to move on?" Yet you're still spewing a week later. You're obsessed with this. Its too late for you to get a clue. You're hopeless.

Buehler445 12-08-2018 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13927487)
What's funny about that ?

Because that's what us normal people do. Reek and Mahomes are a different breed of human than I am and it is weird that they would do the same shit as me.

SuperBowl4 12-08-2018 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 13942349)
ROFL "Time to move on?" Yet you're still spewing a week later. You're obsessed with this. Its too late for you to get a clue. You're hopeless.

You bough a Kareem Hunt jersey didn't you? ROFL Why are you so obsessed with my posts? Does it make you feel better about yourself to call me "hopeless"? "If it feels good do it" - George W. Bush

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-14-2018 08:47 AM

Hunt’s father, also named Kareem Hunt, has been arrested at least 35 times in northeast Ohio and multiple times on charges of domestic violence, according to records obtained by USA TODAY. Most of the felony convictions were for drug-related offenses. He was sentenced to a combined nine years in prison on nine felony convictions, but it's unclear how much time he spent in jail for dozens of misdemeanor charges

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ry/2289525002/

suzzer99 12-14-2018 01:25 PM

Not to excuse Hunt's behavior but that explains a lot. When you watch your dad knock women around in anger, it normalizes that behavior.

I grew up witnessing a lot of screaming fights between my Mom and Dad, and then Mom and Stepdad. It sucked. Later on in life when I got in a heated argument with my gf, including in front of her kid a couple times, I went straight to yelling and screaming. It's something I've really had to work on and is never ok.

He needs a good solid year of anger management therapy and stop hanging around at freaking clubs at 2am obviously.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-14-2018 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 13942133)
Meanwhile, women ARE getting more violent.

Proof?


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