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Chris Meck 04-23-2019 01:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14221935)
Relax. He can be good and this still be a bad trade.

For instance, see if any Seattle fans are upset.

They aren't.
It's not a bad trade. It's just not.

you weren't getting this level of play from #29. to get an elite player, you were going to have to give something up, and a #2 in next year's draft is 'capital'. No big deal. You also gained 8 spots in round 3 THIS year.

Seattle just paid the shit out of Russell Wilson. They needed to clear space.
Clark is a dominant, elite level DE.

We weren't going to do better.

The Franchise 04-23-2019 01:34 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just spoke to one general manager who had this to say about the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> move...<br><br>&quot;Comparing Dee Ford to Frank Clark is like comparing Joe Flacco to Patrick Mahomes.&quot;</p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1120772046986911744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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duncan_idaho 04-23-2019 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14221925)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Total pressures in 2018:<br>Dee Ford: 78 (1st)<br>Frank Clark: 64 (10th)<br><br>Total pressures last 3 years: <br>Dee Ford: 146 (27th)<br>Frank Clark: 174 (14th)</p>— Sam Monson (@PFF_Sam) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Sam/status/1120752651375992837?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ford also played 400 more snaps then Clark

You mean that the other way around? Clark played more than Ford?

tooge 04-23-2019 01:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14221781)
I hope this guy is the best pass rusher we've had since DT passed because it's going to take pretty much that or VERY close to it for me to see the value in this deal. I need the player to succeed so I hope he flies straight as an arrow and doesn't cause any issues off the field.
I will support the player because it is the right thing to do.

But unless Veach's draft picks start hitting and fairly quick-like, I'm done with him. I don't understand how a person can be THIS shitty in free agency. He can't gather compensation worth a ****, but he doles it out as if there were unlimited cap room. Does he fancy himself THAT good of a contract negotiator, that he can structure everyone to avoid overlap so that we can keep the players we need to keep?
Maybe. Maybe that's the ONE thing he's good at? I don't know.
But so far, he hasn't been that impressive on his own. Getting Honey Badger when your cap purse is full of money is one thing, but grabbing a quasi-elite pass rusher and paying him 63 guaranteed when you barely have a LB or CB corps is not something I would count as being "great management".

I'm done being lenient and understanding with this GM. I'm done defending him and backing him. And he gets ZERO free rides for being a scout that saw a great QB. That shit is done and gone.

The honeymoon is over.
You are done being lenient. Whew, thank the lord for that. At least we now know that some blowhard on CP is no longer going to be lenient with Veach. I'll sleep much better tonight.

Bump 04-23-2019 01:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14221935)
Relax. He can be good and this still be a bad trade.

For instance, see if any Seattle fans are upset.

They aren't.
reading around on reddit and other sites, the general consensus among Seahawk fans seem to be that they love Clark and will miss him, but are happy with the compensation that they got and aren't paying a $105 mill contract.

Bwana 04-23-2019 01:36 PM
Dear Frank: welcome to the Chiefs. Go out there, kick some ass and stay the **** out of trouble.

TambaBerry 04-23-2019 01:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14221950)
There was nobody like Jones on the DL.
have you never heard of a guy named Jarran Reed?

tmax63 04-23-2019 01:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14221938)
I’m perfectly fine with our CBs. Breeland and Ward. I’d just like another one because Breeland is only here for 1 year
You're forgetting Fuller in there as well. One of the better slot corners out there. Agree they need to draft a CB early to start the process of getting the next one here to take their spot next year.

Chris Meck 04-23-2019 01:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tooge (Post 14221961)
You are done being lenient. Whew, thank the lord for that. At least we now know that some blowhard on CP is no longer going to be lenient with Veach. I'll sleep much better tonight.

ROFL

In58men 04-23-2019 01:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 14221965)
Dear Frank: welcome to the Chiefs. Go out there and kick some ass and stay the **** out of trouble.
And that’s all that needs to be said.

duncan_idaho 04-23-2019 01:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14221955)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just spoke to one general manager who had this to say about the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> move...<br><br>&quot;Comparing Dee Ford to Frank Clark is like comparing Joe Flacco to Patrick Mahomes.&quot;</p>— Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1120772046986911744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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That says a lot about how Ford is viewed around the league, too, and why the compensation for Ford was what it was, and why he agreed to a deal that was so team friendly.

Ford is an oft-injured one-trick pony best used as a 3rd down specialist. And the league knows it.

Massive upgrade.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2019 01:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14221956)
You mean that the other way around? Clark played more than Ford?
Nope. Clark played 728 snaps. Ford played 1022

Sassy Squatch 04-23-2019 01:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14221966)
have you never heard of a guy named Jarran Reed?
3 career sacks prior to this year. He absolutely was a monster, though.

Titty Meat 04-23-2019 01:37 PM
I'm in Mexico and done further considering this, but Veach should be fired. Twice.

This is asinine.

Stryker 04-23-2019 01:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Warpaint69 (Post 14221927)
People get too wrapped up with the draft, mock drafts, and they fall in love with certain prospects. Got a known elite player, for a couple chances at a crap shoot where you hope your predictions are right.
This! I could not agree more - it is the sure thing.

Iowanian 04-23-2019 01:38 PM
Screw it.

I'm IN!

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The Franchise 04-23-2019 01:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14221975)
I'm in Mexico and done further considering this, but Veach should be fired. Twice.

This is asinine.
So you felt the need to copy someone else's post?

In58men 04-23-2019 01:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14221975)
I'm in Mexico and done further considering this, but Veach should be fired. Twice.

This is asinine.
ROFL

You’re a ****ing clown

Prison Bitch 04-23-2019 01:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14221932)
Overpaying is better than doing absolutely nothing.
That’s makes absolutely no sense.

Titty Meat 04-23-2019 01:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14221979)
So you felt the need to copy someone else's post?
That's a raping and you're a reerun.

This is seriously fireable. It's a panic move from a GM that has shown himself increasingly prone to it.

Hes a hell of a scout and a trash general manager....

New World Order 04-23-2019 01:40 PM
We should be spending money while our qb is on a rookie deal.

We're finally taking risks.

Good.

carcosa 04-23-2019 01:40 PM
I don't see how you can't be excited about this. Watch Clark play and look at the stats and listen to the experts who say he's a huge upgrade over Ford. I initially balked at the compensation a bit, too, but who the **** really cares? This is the sort of move that a championship team makes. This is going all in for Cueto and Zobrist. The Mahomes rookie contract window is wide open and they're going to do everything it takes to fly through it.

At a minimum, Frank Clark knows which side of the neutral zone to line up on. Last year, that would have literally been enough to GO TO THE SUPER BOWL.

ALL IN, MOTHER****ERS!!!!!

Chris Meck 04-23-2019 01:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14221975)
I'm in Mexico and done further considering this, but Veach should be fired. Twice.

This is asinine.
I find it shocking that someone who calls themselves 'Titty Meat' would be a complete idiot. Stay in Mexico. Just not in Quintana Roo, because I go there a lot, and don't want you around spoiling my paradise.

Prison Bitch 04-23-2019 01:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14221984)
We should be spending money while our qb is on a rookie deal.

We're finally taking risks.

Good.
We took 2 huge risks last year with Sammy-Hitchens. Did that work out?

Mecca 04-23-2019 01:42 PM
I am so tired of all of this "oh god he has domestic violence so we hate him" shit.

The Franchise 04-23-2019 01:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14221299)
I'm in Mexico and done further considering this, but Veach should be fired. Twice.

This is asinine.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14221975)
I'm in Mexico and done further considering this, but Veach should be fired. Twice.

This is asinine.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14221983)
That's a raping and you're a reerun.

This is seriously fireable. It's a panic move from a GM that has shown himself increasingly prone to it.

Hes a hell of a scout and a trash general manager....
I'm the reerun? You copied his post word for word.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-23-2019 01:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14221905)
I have to laugh if you think getting a 2nd for Peters and Ford was “bad value”.
Did we get a 2nd AND 3rd or 4th?

Did we get even ONE 1st round pick?


But we give them away without a second thought. Yeah, that's a GREAT precedent.

ptlyon 04-23-2019 01:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14221989)
We took 2 huge risks last year with Sammy-Hitchens. Did that work out?
So how is this a huge risk?

Shoes 04-23-2019 01:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tooge (Post 14221961)
You are done being lenient. Whew, thank the lord for that. At least we now know that some blowhard on CP is no longer going to be lenient with Veach. I'll sleep much better tonight.
**** me I spit my coffee everywhere you funny bastard ROFLROFLROFL

Jerm 04-23-2019 01:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14221989)
We took 2 huge risks last year with Sammy-Hitchens. Did that work out?
Considering we were one Dee Ford lining up on the right side of the ball away from the Super Bowl.....

staylor26 04-23-2019 01:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14221966)
have you never heard of a guy named Jarran Reed?
I know he had a big sack year, but the guy was never a pass rusher and I highly doubt he turned into that kind of pass rusher overnight.

His PFF grade wasn’t all that great, so I think it was an outlier.

Titty Meat 04-23-2019 01:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14221986)
I find it shocking that someone who calls themselves 'Titty Meat' would be a complete idiot. Stay in Mexico. Just not in Quintana Roo, because I go there a lot, and don't want you around spoiling my paradise.
See? When you say it out loud, it gets real reeruned real fast.

Prison Bitch 04-23-2019 01:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 14221996)
Considering we were one Dee Ford lining up on the right side of the ball away from the Super Bowl.....
Yeah! Those two FA really took us to new heights didn’t they.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2019 01:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14221989)
We took 2 huge risks last year with Sammy-Hitchens. Did that work out?
Sammy yes. Whenever he was on the field it was a threat

RunKC 04-23-2019 01:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14221989)
We took 2 huge risks last year with Sammy-Hitchens. Did that work out?
What about trading a 1st and 3rd for an air raid QB from the Big 12.

Did that work out?

staylor26 04-23-2019 01:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14222000)
Yeah! Those two FA really took us to new heights didn’t they.
Did you watch Watkins in the AFCCG?

Obviously not.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-23-2019 01:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14221991)
I am so tired of all of this "oh god he has domestic violence so we hate him" shit.
I'm so tired of watching my players moved off to a different team, being suspended, or waiting months on end to find out if they'll be able to play or not.

It's a ****ing issue whether you're "tired" of it or not.

Luckily, LUCKILY this guy seems to have corrected himself.

Skyy God 04-23-2019 01:44 PM
Gah.

****ing Veach.

New World Order 04-23-2019 01:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14221989)
We took 2 huge risks last year with Sammy-Hitchens. Did that work out?
Watkins, yes.

They had the best offense in the NFL.

Clark is a hell of a lot better than Anthony Hitchens

old_geezer 04-23-2019 01:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14221955)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just spoke to one general manager who had this to say about the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> move...<br><br>&quot;Comparing Dee Ford to Frank Clark is like comparing Joe Flacco to Patrick Mahomes.&quot;</p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1120772046986911744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Love that quote. I was not a fan of this trade at first but the more I think about it the better I like it. Our 29th pick wouldn't have come close to Clark talent-wise and we can afford him. We've unloaded Berry's, Houston's, and Ford's contracts already. We can fit him in.

Buckweath 04-23-2019 01:46 PM
Can anyone confirm that the 2020 2nd round pick is the Chiefs' and not the 49ers'?

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-23-2019 01:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tooge (Post 14221961)
You are done being lenient. Whew, thank the lord for that. At least we now know that some blowhard on CP is no longer going to be lenient with Veach. I'll sleep much better tonight.
Rest well, **** stick. It's easy to do when you don't even HAVE an opinion, right?

TambaBerry 04-23-2019 01:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 14222012)
Can anyone confirm that the 2020 2nd round pick is the Chiefs' and not the 49ers'?
whatever the lowest pick is will be the chiefs

In58men 04-23-2019 01:47 PM
Veach has a big dick.

John Dorsey has a fantastic offseason....

Veach: Hold my cock

Buckweath 04-23-2019 01:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14222016)
whatever the lowest pick is will be the chiefs
I have just checked and it's the opposite actually. The Seahawks will receive the lowest pick.

Eleazar 04-23-2019 01:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 14221996)
Considering we were one Dee Ford lining up on the right side of the ball away from the Super Bowl.....
Clark was had two penalties all year in 2018. Ford had 8.

There you go. Instant upgrade.

RunKC 04-23-2019 01:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14221993)
Did we get a 2nd AND 3rd or 4th?

Did we get even ONE 1st round pick?


But we give them away without a second thought. Yeah, that's a GREAT precedent.
This isn’t worth the 29th pick to you?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alright, listen, I’m not saying Frank Clark is Khalil Mack. He’s not. But I found these numbers over the last 3 seasons to be interesting. <br><br>Frank Clark - 47 games, 32 sacks, 31 TFL, 66 QB Hits<br><br>Khalil Mack - 46 games, 34 sacks, 39 TFL, 66 QB Hits</p>&mdash; Brandon Kiley (@BKSportsTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/BKSportsTalk/status/1120771252392738816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Codered 04-23-2019 01:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by old_geezer (Post 14222010)
Love that quote. I was not a fan of this trade at first but the more I think about it the better I like it. Our 29th pick wouldn't have come close to Clark talent-wise and we can afford him. We've unloaded Berry's, Houston's, and Ford's contracts already. We can fit him in.
You wouldn't think so, but Frank Clark was drafted in the second round so you really never know.

Eleazar 04-23-2019 01:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14222027)
This isn’t worth the 29th pick to you?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alright, listen, I’m not saying Frank Clark is Khalil Mack. He’s not. But I found these numbers over the last 3 seasons to be interesting. <br><br>Frank Clark - 47 games, 32 sacks, 31 TFL, 66 QB Hits<br><br>Khalil Mack - 46 games, 34 sacks, 39 TFL, 66 QB Hits</p>&mdash; Brandon Kiley (@BKSportsTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/BKSportsTalk/status/1120771252392738816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Wait until he's playing with Jones.

TLO 04-23-2019 01:51 PM
I love these threads.

First reactions OMG, THIS IS THE WORST THING EVER. I'M SUPER ****ING PISSED!!!!!!

600 posts later: THIS GUY IS A STUD! WE'RE GOING TO THE SUPER BOWL!!!!

loochy 04-23-2019 01:51 PM
We finally signed a piece of shit!

Shoes 04-23-2019 01:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 14222012)
Can anyone confirm that the 2020 2nd round pick is the Chiefs' and not the 49ers'?
The Chiefs retain the higher pick.

TambaBerry 04-23-2019 01:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 14222023)
I have just checked and it's the opposite actually. The Seahawks will receive the lowest pick.
lowest as in number lower. so if the 49ers pick 40th and the chiefs pick 50th the chiefs get the 40th and the seahawks get the 50th

Sassy Squatch 04-23-2019 01:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 14222023)
I have just checked and it's the opposite actually. The Seahawks will receive the lowest pick.
This is what I thought, too.

ptlyon 04-23-2019 01:51 PM
I don't know what TFL is, but he seems to be lacking in that area :harumph:

007 04-23-2019 01:51 PM
Crap trade. Good player but the chiefs got fleeced again. This is becoming a veach staple.

TEX 04-23-2019 01:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14222016)
whatever the lowest pick is will be the chiefs
Yep.

ThaVirus 04-23-2019 01:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 14222036)
I don't know what TFL is, but he seems to be lacking in that area :harumph:

Tackle for loss.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2019 01:52 PM
The Chiefs retain the higher second round pick. So essentially we traded a third round pick since we will be winning the super bowl this year

ptlyon 04-23-2019 01:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 14222040)
Tackle for loss.
DOOOOOMMMMMEEEEDDDD

New World Order 04-23-2019 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14222027)
This isn’t worth the 29th pick to you?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alright, listen, I’m not saying Frank Clark is Khalil Mack. He’s not. But I found these numbers over the last 3 seasons to be interesting. <br><br>Frank Clark - 47 games, 32 sacks, 31 TFL, 66 QB Hits<br><br>Khalil Mack - 46 games, 34 sacks, 39 TFL, 66 QB Hits</p>&mdash; Brandon Kiley (@BKSportsTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/BKSportsTalk/status/1120771252392738816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
https://media.tenor.com/images/40f46...4b5e/tenor.gif

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2019 01:53 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">KC believes the addition of Clark to the d-line rotation of Speaks, Ogbah, Okafor on the edge &amp; Chris Jones, Derrick Nnadi &amp; Xavier Williams inside gives them a chance to win in Jan.<br><br>Plus, KC still has 3 top 100 picks this year to address S/CB/MLB/DT or even WR/TE/C.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/1120776511676715008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-23-2019 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14222027)
This isn’t worth the 29th pick to you?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alright, listen, I’m not saying Frank Clark is Khalil Mack. He’s not. But I found these numbers over the last 3 seasons to be interesting. <br><br>Frank Clark - 47 games, 32 sacks, 31 TFL, 66 QB Hits<br><br>Khalil Mack - 46 games, 34 sacks, 39 TFL, 66 QB Hits</p>&mdash; Brandon Kiley (@BKSportsTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/BKSportsTalk/status/1120771252392738816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Am I talking to a wall? It's not about the pick or picks in this particular case, it's about the body of work as a whole and so far, it's just not that impressive.

If his drafting were better, I can cut slack on the compensation for trade-outs.

If his negotiations for extensions were the kind that made you say, "how did we get away with that"(?), I can cut slack on the drafting.

Do you even SOMEWHAT understand the point I'm trying to make here? Like, at all?

Iowanian 04-23-2019 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14222031)
I love these threads.

First reactions OMG, THIS IS THE WORST THING EVER. I'M SUPER ****ING PISSED!!!!!!

600 posts later: THIS GUY IS A STUD! WE'RE GOING TO THE SUPER BOWL!!!!
To be fair, I was busy the first 550 posts and the rest of my fellas didn't know what to think until I let them know that Charles Jefferson was coming in here thinking the QBs of the AFCW trashed his camaro.

TEX 04-23-2019 01:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14222034)
lowest as in number lower. so if the 49ers pick 40th and the chiefs pick 50th the chiefs get the 40th and the seahawks get the 50th
Exactly the case. Garafolo also confirmed this on NFL.Com.

petegz28 04-23-2019 01:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 14222036)
I don't know what TFL is, but he seems to be lacking in that area :harumph:
Tackles For Loss

nychief 04-23-2019 01:54 PM
We moved up quite a bit in the 3rd round.

RunKC 04-23-2019 01:54 PM
“BuT wE DoN’T hAVe tHe Cap SpaCE tO SigN EVerYoNE”

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> would also still have $37M in cap space next offseason. That includes Sammy’s bloated cap hit &amp; $12M for Eric Fisher. They have money to maneuver. But those day 2 draft picks are going to become really important. Gotta start hitting on cheap value players.</p>&mdash; Brandon Kiley (@BKSportsTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/BKSportsTalk/status/1120769120151244800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Buckweath 04-23-2019 01:54 PM
I have just checked the draft chart and basically the Chiefs traded the equivalent of their 29th overall pick and a low 3rd/high 4th round pick this year for Frank Clark, assuming the Chiefs finish with a top 3 record next year.

Eleazar 04-23-2019 01:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14222047)
Am I talking to a wall? It's not about the pick or picks in this particular case, it's about the body of work as a whole and so far, it's just not that impressive.

If his drafting were better, I can cut slack on the compensation for trade-outs.

If his negotiations for extensions were the kind that made you say, "how did we get away with that"(?), I can cut slack on the drafting.

Do you even SOMEWHAT understand the point I'm trying to make here? Like, at all?
------->

BryanBusby 04-23-2019 01:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14222042)
The Chiefs retain the higher second round pick. So essentially we traded a third round pick since we will be winning the super bowl this year
Future picks have a value of around one round 1 in current terms. So basically a late 2nd in 2020 is worth a late 3rd today. Basically they flipped a 2+3 for a high end edge rusher.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2019 01:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14222056)
“BuT wE DoN’T hAVe tHe Cap SpaCE tO SigN EVerYoNE”

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> would also still have $37M in cap space next offseason. That includes Sammy’s bloated cap hit &amp; $12M for Eric Fisher. They have money to maneuver. But those day 2 draft picks are going to become really important. Gotta start hitting on cheap value players.</p>&mdash; Brandon Kiley (@BKSportsTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/BKSportsTalk/status/1120769120151244800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Plus we don’t know how the contract is structured

The Franchise 04-23-2019 01:56 PM
Maybe the Seahawks can use #29 to draft another Rashaad Penny.

nychief 04-23-2019 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14222047)
Am I talking to a wall? It's not about the pick or picks in this particular case, it's about the body of work as a whole and so far, it's just not that impressive.

If his drafting were better, I can cut slack on the compensation for trade-outs.

If his negotiations for extensions were the kind that made you say, "how did we get away with that"(?), I can cut slack on the drafting.

Do you even SOMEWHAT understand the point I'm trying to make here? Like, at all?
If you don’t trust his drafting...why are you complaining out him trading draft picks for a vet?

pugsnotdrugs19 04-23-2019 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14222063)
Maybe the Seahawks can use #29 to draft another Rashaad Penny.
They’re always making WTF picks every year, I swear.

Whoever they get has about a 1% chance of being on Clark’s level... IMO

New World Order 04-23-2019 01:58 PM
An extra second next year to move up and draft Fisher's replacement so we can save some dough.

TambaBerry 04-23-2019 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14222063)
Maybe the Seahawks can use #29 to draft another Rashaad Penny.
if i was seattle id package those two firsts and move up as high as i could

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-23-2019 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 007 (Post 14222037)
Crap trade. Good player but the chiefs got fleeced again. This is becoming a veach staple.

No dude, your and idiot/kill yourself/antifreeze etc. LMAO

I just look at this shit and say to myself:

"I was here in 2009. I remember the cries of "Pioli"(!) and when THAT particular shit stain could DO NO WRONG! And if you weren't in agreement with the fat ****, then you were just a moron that didn't know shit and were "just mad because the Chiefs didn't draft a QB" and blah-blah-blah"....

Same shit, different ****ing day.

"IT'S MORNING AT CHIEFSPLANET AGAIN"! LMAO

****...

TambaBerry 04-23-2019 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14222067)
if i was seattle id package those two firsts and move up as high as i could
that would get you into the top ten

srvy 04-23-2019 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Showtime (Post 14221783)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"> <a href="https://t.co/276dzsDhYI">pic.twitter.com/276dzsDhYI</a></p>&mdash; Lonnie (@DocFluty) <a href="https://twitter.com/DocFluty/status/1120764938170056704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Lol when last time a chiefs player did this
To be honest this video and the Fisher clip were two good LT's caught in horrendous footwork. But I still like the Trade because late round 1 picks can easily bust. Film doesn't lie Frank is a player.


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