Dude is going to be the Broncos starter in 2025.

I'll be pissed if that happens. This shithead had a very talented roster around him at Oklahoma while Mahomes was stuck with a lot of scrubs at Tech. The Chiefs have a shitty defense and two mediocre guys at LT & RT, while the Niners have a loaded roster on both sides of the ball. Mayfield doesn't deserve to have that situation handed to him on a silver platter.

Baker Mayfield sucks ass.

/thread

I want Carson Wentz as a backup next year

When you're pinning your hopes on Baker Mayfield, you've already lost.

No way of knowing whether or not that's true, but we do know that Josh Allen actually had the talent to be the #1 overall pick.

Baker is probably the least talented QB to ever go #1.

Nah, that's got to be Tim Couch.

He stinks. Starting him is a waste of time.

Trade deadline has already passed.

If they cut him, the Whiners get him for nothing.

They're cutting him...

Has to go through waivers first, right? What does his contract look like now?

Oh, I missed that.

Costs $1,349,445 if a team claims him.

LMAO Rams going to claim him just to spite the 49ers

I wonder if they ever changed the security alarm code for Cleveland’s stadium once he moved out? With him being unemployed now, they need to make sure he doesn’t show back up and squat there.

Holy shit LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Newly-released QB Baker Mayfield has an 18.2 Total QBR this season. That ranks 520th out of 521 qualified QB seasons since the stat started being tracked in 2006, per <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ESPNStatsInfo</a>.</p>&mdash; Nick Wagoner (@nwagoner) <a href="https://twitter.com/nwagoner/status/1599819850909913090?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is 2022 Mr. Unlimited #521?

Hackett could probably use a healthy BM about now

Just save the link to this thread every time someone longs for how great John Dorsey was. He was a good talent evaluator for sure but he makes mistakes just like Veach and everyone else, and this was probably one of the worst ones in recent history.

He drafted Baker Mayfield over Josh Allen… yikes.

First player in history about whom you can say “The Cleveland Browns made him look good”

I remember when half of CP thought Baker was going to be really good after his rookie season, and I was of course just being a hater LMAO

Baker Mayfield is 3-0 against Joe Burrow...

Let that sink in...

chiefszilla was all over his nuts

Maybe in 2022.

It wouldn’t surprise me if the rams 9ers or Donkeys stuck him in just to see

Just another reason not to pay attention to the media contrived bullshit.

Actually, it's a pretty good textbook reason why Ws and Ls aren't a QB stat.

But blaming Baker for what's happened in CAR this season is pretty low-hanging fruit. As in on the ground spoiling fruit. They don't have a team over there. Haven't had one for a while now, and then this season they gave away their best weapon and a pile of other players fired their HC and basically decided to turn the team into a dumpster fire. No QB is going to be successful in that situation. Much less a young QB brought in from CLE after an injury-riddled season.

Plus, Baker literally put CLE back on the map in his first three years there. Gave them their first double digit W season since 2007. Got to the playoffs for the first time in nearly 20 years, and won their first playoff game since 1994. Nearly beat the Chiefs, if not for a risky but very timely tackle by Dirty Dan.

Did all that with three HCs and 2 or 3 OCs to deal with at the same time. He did okay in CLE. Not his fault he keeps having to play for shitty franchises.

Watch him pull a Jim Plunkett in silver and black. Would not surprise me one bit.

he sure came a long way from being in all those damn commercials

I don't know. He may be broken at this point.

Most of the time if a QB is drafted to a bad team with a ton of instability from top to bottom, that QB is destined to fail. Keep that QB in that type of situation long enough and you break them. Happens every year to a handful of otherwise talented QBs. Very few survive that type of shitty scenario and become quality QBs. Even Fitz-magic, who had enough talent and probably one of the most intelligent QBs in recent memory never rose above good but significantly flawed QB.

If Baker is ever going to amount to anything he needs a true QB mentor/whisperer situation, plus a decent defense a decent run game and at least three receiving weapons that are better than average.

Oh shit, except for the QB whisperer part, that does sound a little like LVR, doesn't it?

But seriously, I think he's ****ed. Was from the moment he broke his shoulder last season.

Dunno... he could turn it around, but damn, he's fallen quickly.

Okay, I'll go down this rabbit hole; it's better than rehashing last night, anyway.

So, to begin, which teams are going to need a new QB1 next season?

Off the top of my head, that's . . .

NYJ (?)
NE
IND
HOU
ATL
NO
SF

I think that's it, right? And let's say that Sean Payton would be the new HC at one of those franchises, just to give us a little more to suppose about.

How many of those teams have the prerequisites to make such a deal and don't already have an HC or a QB already locked in:

IND
ATL
SF

In this fictitious scenario, IND looks like the most likely landing spot for both Sean and Baker just in terms of availability/needs. But besides the running game, I don't know if they have the weapons to support Baker enough.

ATL? I don't know much about them recently, except that Arhtur Smith is the HC (formerly of TEN) and Mariota sucks. They have a good run game and at least a couple receiving weapons, iirc, so maybe that'd be a decent fit.

SF. Could Baker be a system QB? Don't know. But everything is there that he'd need; the running game, the defense, the receiving weapons at all three tiers, and a pretty solid QB coach. And Baker at least would be a more talented QB than Jimmy G.

Baker could open up that offense by being able to make those throws down the sideline or deep over the middle that Jimmy just has trouble with. Maybe that would be worth the inevitable moments of inconsistency that seem to come with Baker.

Certainly, it could've won them the SB in 2019, if Baker's behind center when that deep throw down the seam needed to be completed, but hapless Jimmy overthrew the thing by 4 yards.

Maybe he could be successful in one other place: WAS. Defense, receivers, a little running game and a good HC. Similar to the ATL or the SF situation, they'd be getting a bigger more talented arm but maybe more inconsistency.

Probably would have, Mahomes too. Not provable but who was the Browns last decent QB? Testaverde? Like 30 guys have been the Cleveland QB since and to say they just all suck at their job is a statistical impossibility, it's the awful organization that is at fault.

He stinks. If he didn't stink he wouldn't keep getting dumped. He has a weak arm, douchebag personality and can't handle pressure. He's a screw up.

Lolz, Baker had the 2nd or third strongest arm the year he was drafted. Clocked at 58+ mph, just a couple ticks less than Mahomes.

Bullshit. The eye test says no. He does not have an arm like Mahomes at all.

Which is a better tool for measuring velocity, your eyes or a radar gun? Let me think . . .

Pretty sure it can be googled. Mayfield threw for 58 mph, Mahomes for 60 or 61 or something. Also, Baker threw a 59 yard pass in his first season with CLE to Landry i think. He has a big arm. That's not debatable.

Marty would have signed him simply because his wife is hot. Too soon?

Wait, people are STILL making excuses for Baker?

LMAO

Yup. Baker is so good his impressive arm and ability was too good for two teams. He's awsome.

Nope. We're looking at potential landing spots in an imaginary scenario.

Oh, that one guy thinks his eyes are better tools for judging velocity of a football than a radar gun.

But otherwise, we're just blue-skying because we're already tired of the whiny sisters crying about everything that happened last night. You're welcome to join in.

SF or Canada

The Broncos should be allover that.

They can't afford him.ROFLROFLROFLROFL

LMAO oh yeah. Sucks for them.

Easily the best defense of Mayfield I've ever seen, well done

He certainly did have to juggle some tough, ever changing circumstances... and managed to hit some important marks any shithole franchise needs to hit if they want to ascend

After watching Watson play Sunday it seems Cleveland took a huge step backwards to me LMAO

bummer

He'll figure it out. It'll take a few games, like at least three more, but then the muscle memory will kick in and he'll start trending up.

I’m sure but damn he was throwing balls in the dirt like he thought it was gaining him points.

ROFLlove it.

Lets see YOU play QB without a well oiled anus!

This is why I was never drafted!!! Dry anus syndrome!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don’t go anywhere without a well oiled …….. wait never mind.

Billay alerted, meet him behind the...

Saints are dumb.

Brady luck is stupid. Saints looking like chokers.

How is that a td drive. 60 yards on a penalty.

Wrong thread dude.

The full on choke is on. All because that Moron ran out of bounds and didn't get the first down.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rams claim QB Baker Mayfield off the waiver wire. (via <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RapSheet</a> + <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TomPelissero</a>) <a href="https://t.co/GWCoI9Dril">pic.twitter.com/GWCoI9Dril</a></p>&mdash; NFL (@NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1600236025913085952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

hmmm. Never saw that coming. wonder what the plan is . . .

hmmm. Never saw that coming. wonder what the plan is . . .

Never mind. Probably just trying to get through the remainder of the season with enough QBs.

The plan is to keep him from the 49ers LMAO

Doesn't sound like the 49ers were interested. Could have been bluffing, but who knows.

McVay loved Mayfield coming out.

Matt Stafford could be perma done.

Didn't know he was that badly hurt.

But I really don't think picking up Mayfield is anything more than just trying to finish the season with a live body behind C. I mean, maybe they're thinking future with Baker, but I'd honestly be surprised. With that absolute dumpster fire of an OL it would be a terrible plan.

PLEEEEEAAAAASSSE Tell me it is?!

Well it's a spinal cord injury. Dude should call it a career at this point.

The Rams will probably be shit until they dump some deals and recoup a full draft. No reason to not bargain bin shop until then.

Shit, didn't know that. Sucks for Stafford. Always liked him. At least he finally got his ring.

Still don't see a path to success for Baker with that OL though. He's not elusive enough for the NFL. Just going to get himself killed behind that shitshow.

I think he should retire. He got that ring and he had a spectacular shootout victory against Brady to pull it off. Stafford played through his fair share of injuries in Detroit. I think he has secured a spot in the Hall of Fame thanks to last season. No shame in calling it quits and saving his body from more punishment.

It's a tryout that could be more.

Could be that the Rams feel like Stafford is done, and Mayfield will be the jag to QB them as a stopgap for a couple years

If the Rams OL is as bad as advertised, I am gonna enjoy seeing Mayfield get crushed every game.

Fully understanding that I'm alone on an island of not hating Baker Mayfield in this forum, but Mayfield was playing with a bum shoulder all last year. Prior to that, he had Cleveland winning play-off games. If he's healthy, with good offensive coaching, there's good reason to think he might get it together. If anyone can coax it out of him, I'd think McVay is a good bet.

They need to offload the aging stars and try to recoup some picks and get an OL together in the worst way, but it could be done.

You're not alone.