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Kobe Bryant and daughter killed in helicopter crash
(https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=328561)
“Radar data indicated the helicopter climbed 2,300 feet and began a left descending turn, she said.”
If climbing to VFR on top (An IFR clearance common there with low clouds/fog just or to IFR handling, it seems loss of orientation/situational awareness/vertigo, etc. But a transition from his gameplan. Likely too late and in extreme conditions/thoughts/actions. |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My wife Vanessa got me the best Christmas gift ever. Thank you <a href="https://twitter.com/GRRMspeaking?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GRRMspeaking</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/muse?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#muse</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GameOfThrones?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GameOfThrones</a> <a href="https://t.co/7XgS4rWwDA">pic.twitter.com/7XgS4rWwDA</a></p>— Kobe Bryant (@kobebryant) <a href="https://twitter.com/kobebryant/status/813170871095308288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 25, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
God damnt, Martin. |
Quick thanks to whatever mod was managing the subject line of this thread. I originally posted it as "Kobe Bryant rumors" because I didn't want to jump the gun and only a tabloid (TMZ) was reporting the story. But some goodhearted mod managed it to reflect the facts as they changed throughout the day to avoid misleading anyone or presenting info that was out of date. Fine work.
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Kobe Bryant and wife Vanessa had pact to ‘never fly on a helicopter together’
...the Los Angeles Lakers legend would “only” fly in choppers flown by pilot Ara Zobayan, who was at the controls in the crash Sunday that left him, Bryant and seven others dead Sunday. https://nypost.com/2020/01/28/kobe-b...rce=reddit.com |
Sounding more and more like a preventable tragedy.
I wonder how much pressure the pilot was under to get these people in the air? Why didn’t he just say no? |
uuuuggggghhhhhhhh
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"I would have 5 more girls if I could. I'm a girl dad."<a href="https://twitter.com/elleduncanESPN?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@elleduncanESPN</a>'s story about how much Kobe loved his daughters is something special. <a href="https://t.co/1KJx17QRjY">pic.twitter.com/1KJx17QRjY</a></p>— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1222023021919121410?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Having daughters is just different, man... |
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But yeah, got misty there. |
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I will never understand other than pilot error why he was flying so fast. I work by a hospital and see the life flights come and go almost every day even in shitty weather and if the weather is not great they are moving at a snails pace. Seems to me he could have parked it in the field somewhere until the weather improved.
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Doing 160-180 when they hit the hillside? Maybe the throttle got stuck or something, who knows... but we surely don’t have the whole story yet |
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Maaaaan that interview with Shaq just ugh
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With the speed thing, last I read the size of the debris field pointed to a very high speed impact, estimated in the 160-180 range... the final NTSB report hopefully clears it all up |
Dude they said the pilot just missed clearing the mountain by 20-30 feet this just keeps getting worse
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On a side note today they were working on trying to get those bodies off that hillside I pray that happened today for the family's sake. |
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Just heard on the radio that the chopper did not have a "TAWS"
"terrain analysis WARNING system" or some such thing. I guess if you have that you get warned there is a mountain in your flight path. It was the combo platter of shit going wrong |
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Last words from the chopper
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oh wow. This would definitely be a pant shitting moment.
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Jerry West interview was sad too...you can tell he cried alot. Also Rick Fox getting calls from family and friends thinking he was dead too.
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And wtf is Kobe doing in a helicopter with no terrain avoidance warning system? In the fog. In mountains. Pilot didn't seem to be under any stress and was able to see while talking to the different towers. I'm certainly no aviation expert, but this whole thing just makes zero sense. |
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Like I said before that’s what happened to the dude from my town. He got ****ed up in the fog and came through the fog headed straight down. Pure speculation but I can see it happening. |
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All the 9 bodies recovered off mountain yesterday so at least that part is over for the families.
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Many times mishaps like this, “pieces” are found after funerals. Always a tough deal to discuss with the families and requires a personal family and mishap site investigator plan.
Most never think about that fortunately. But the balance of forensics, reconstructing the mishap chain and the families’ wishes and beliefs is tough. One of the first things I thought about here and the wives, mothers, fathers, husbands, etc. It’s all tough for them. Sometimes you see funerals delayed and frequently this is why. For example “recovered” does not equal “released.” If no person was sitting in a crew seat (access to controls) and once all passenger positions are determined, I would think “releases” for passengers should be fairly quick. https://www.latimes.com/california/s...icopter-safety |
NTSB reports that there wasn't any engine failure.
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Sounds like a Mad Lib that a chicken loving Chiefs fan filled out. The ____ has opened _____ themed ___ restaurants in ___.
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Great.
Now I'm sad again. |
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But yeah, then it sucked. |
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Some of them are hilariously graphic. She had one that was like "You don't even feel the pain in your broken arm anymore as the mountain lion grabs you by the skull and drags you back to her lair..." -- the end -- She had another one where she'd tried to run off and distract some group of natives from her injured friend and it ended with "as they run you down, you take solace in the fact that you saved your injured friend from them. It's better that you never knew that they would eventually cook her body alongside you..." WTF?!?! |
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COVID + the lockdown has really ****ed with my perception of time.
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