Well, except for the QB sneak...:hmmm::D

Jesus ****ing Christ his head went straight through the table into the concrete. Didn't slow him down one bit.

The best reasoning I've heard for the Bills winning this weekend is that they have Matt Milano, who was out when we played them, and Allen is no longer dealing with an injured shoulder.

Any given Sunday and all, plus I think the Billies are a pretty good team, but I'm just not sure a linebacker is going to make such a difference. We legitimately had our way with them in week 6 running a gameplan that we've rarely seen since Mahomes became the starter.

If Mahomes is even 80-ish% on Sunday, I feel like we'd take a solid 6 out of 10. If he's "100%" or close to it, I think we beat them 8 out of 10.

Milano is a turd ROFL

In watching their game Sunday, I don't feel their 16K equals the Bills' 6700. It looks like about half of them are in the upper deck, and they don't have metal bleachers to bang on. Yes, it will have some effect, but not like what we saw in Buffalo last Saturday. I think?

another copy and paste from two bill dive.

Do bills fans know that arrowhead is the loudest stadium in the nfl?

This is a great example of someone speaking on something they know nothing about. Casual fans think our secondary sucks because we've got no household names outside of Mathieu, but it's actually the strength of the defense.

It seems rational till they act like Milano is Ray Lewis in his prime.

For the record that is not my opinion. I copied and pasted that from 2 bill dirve.

lol He's not a turd but he's certainly not prime Ray Lewis like they're pretending.

They're 12-0 this season when he plays so they've got a 2019 Eric Fisher undefeated-when-he-plays thing going on.

The NFL is rigged! /Bills fans.

I also see something about Kenny Stills and how he could impact the game.
stuff I am just seeing lurking on two bills drive forum.

Hah! I promise I did not see your post before I made mine. They really are acting like the dude is a HOFer.

I would bet their run D will be better this time around but they gave up 250 yards last time so that isn't necessarily saying much.

I hope their fans are right and that they run a bunch of DB blitzes and stuff. We won't need to run the ball, Mahomes will go for 400 and 4 TD's.

Also, I believe the Bills coach came out after the game and said they gave up so many yards on the ground because they wanted to limit Mahomes first and foremost.

Issue is, Mahomes still threw on them pretty much at will in the rain. I think he averaged over 9 YPA.

Our secondary is trash when it gave up 5 yards per game more than Buffalo in passing yards, gave up fewer points, and played much better QB's than Buffalo did schedule wise.

Hell Mahomes took it easy on them while we ran for 240 yards or their numbers would be worse than KC's.

They played the NFCW with a pile of not good QB's minus Wilson, and they got torched by a midget, they played the Jets and Dolphins and NE 2 times each whos QB's all suck. Their defensive stats should be better.

Yep.

CEH had 161 yards on 26 carries while Mahomes was 21-26 for 255 yards and 2 TD's.

They were efficient across the board on offense. I just don't see them being able to stop the Chiefs.

I decided to skip the Buffalo fans assessments (since most are brain dead) and go right to the source.

Listened to their coach talk about how to defend the Chiefs.

The most interesting thing was he mentioned how what Mahomes/Tyreek Hill did in the Super Bowl was unique. Of course he is an actual football guy so I doubt he is laughing his ass off watching film of his opponent.

The other thing he mentioned is how he wants to avoid in the rematch big plays but he understands that letting us possess the ball too much also is a killer.

Based on that I expect another game where Buffalo cedes the run but just tries to make a few more stops to get us off the field.


Of course I doubt Reid wants to run it that much this time and I have a feeling more of those RPOs will be thrown into the middle of the field which should be wide open.

Yea Mahomes probably should have been better than 81% passing on 9.8yard per attempt. LMAO

Let's be honest here... You were tolerable and ok when you first started posting on here. I respected that, despite your board not allowing Chief fans to join. I went back to your board and you were catching shit from everyone for being nice and defending Chiefs fans on here. You had to save face and come back as a troll dick... I get it, but it would have been easier just to walk away.

Exactly.

Their schedule was Dolphins, Pats, Jets, Rams, Raiders, Titans, Chiefs, Seahawks, Cards, Chargers, 49ers, Steelers, and Broncos.

They faced Tannehill, Mahomes, Wilson, and Herbert. Then you have borderline guys in Carr, Goff, and Murray.

After that, they got the Dolphins ****ed up QB situation twice, the Jets ****ed up QB situation twice, the Patriots ****ed up QB situation twice, the Broncos ****ed up QB situation, the 49ers ****ed up QB situation, and a rapidly fading Ben Roethlisberger.

The Chiefs meanwhile got Brees, Brady, Allen, Watson, Herbert, Lamar, and Matt Ryan and for the bubble guys, faced Carr twice and Teddy Bridgewater.

They beat Brees, Brady, Allen, Herbert, and Lamar ALL on the road.

No team with average defensive personnel like the Bills can stop this Chiefs offense when healthy, unless we completely shit the bed.

Chris Jones and Tyrann Mathieu are better than any Buffalo defensive player.

Tre White is their best defensive player and he is good but..so what? He will need help if he gets Tyreek.

They sold out to stop the run against the Ravens and dared Jackson to pass on them. Of course he couldn’t.

How are they stopping us?

I agree that they have to try for a shootout and hope our defence has an off day and they can get a couple of turnovers/Butker shits the bed again.

I'd say Tre White is a top 5 CB in the league. Poyer is really good too.

The problem is that they're CB's. MAYBE they can limit the big plays on the outside but they're not going to contribute anything to stopping Kelce and that's what will ultimately kill them.

It sure does.

Bills fans don't realize it, but Lajerius Sneed is:

1) A better NFL player than Matt Milano
2) A more impactful returnee in this rematch

OK, Milano MAY be help them a LITTLE against Kelce. The guy is not a run-stopper, but he's not a standout against the run.

Sneed is a dynamite slot weapon who can take away a good slot receiver while also defending the run like a SS and being a dangerous blitzer. And he frees up Mathieu to be used as a "Chaos" factor - all over the field.

You probably need to make that clear on your posts. It's very confusing otherwise. :thumb:

And if Tre White actually does follow Hill all game... how's he going to be in the 4th quarter, when White has ALREADY run as much as he does in a normal game, and there's still a quarter to go, and Hill is still running around like crazy?

I posted this last night, re: the defense having an "off day".

The Chiefs have given up 35 or more points just TWICE in the last 2 seasons, including the playoffs.

They've given up 30 or more only 8 times in 35 games.

Given the strength of Buffalo's offense, I expect them to score about 31.

The Chiefs won't have any trouble scoring more than that.

If the Bills break 24pts, I'll be surprised.

Especially if the Chiefs do run the ball. They're going to test the edges of that Buffalo defense, meaning White is going to be having to make tackles AND chase Hill around.

I'm hesitant to go that far but I don't think they'll go much further than 30.

Maybe 28 is a good middle ground.

Spoiler: they aren’t

The Reigning Super Bowl Champs 34
Table Breaking Butt Fingerer's 27

Every Buffalo fan thinks they score 30 to 40 points on our D.

Then again, they also don't realize our defense ranked 6th overall in points allowed while theirs was 15th.

Tennessee last year was a much tougher assignment than Buffalo this year for our scheme.

I dont see the Bills scoring 31.

Before the playoffs started i said that it will be the defense that are the heroes this run.

Holding Cleveland to 17 points is pretty damn heroic.

They're going to hold down Buff to the low-mid 20's. The more i think about this matchup, the more i think our defense will hold up.

I think Buffalo is held in the 13-17 range with the game in balance. Maybe they get a garbage time TD late.

I will just settle the confusion here. The final score will be 34-27 Chiefs

They will score the same as the Browns in the second half. 7 a quarter

BUF will score 24-26 points.

I'm getting there as well. Like I said, I could see 28. By the end of the week, it will probably be lower.

I think we win 34-24.

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Allen gonna put up 35 - 40 Mahomie gonna have to keep up

Must be taking passing yards? I’d say 200 is more likely. Good guess though.

Nick Wright just mentioned how Indianapolis and Baltimore both outgained Buffalo by about 100 yards each.

In both games, 8 total red zone trips where these teams combined for SIXTEEN points. That's 2 points per red zone trip. That's unsustainable.

2 additional times Ravens got inside 30 and missed field goals.

2:25 in!

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That Bills pass defense? The one that got to play a RB at QB and a QB with no arm strength that just retired. Good luck on Sunday against the best QB in the league.

That's not happening. You don't have enough balance on offense to put up over 35 points on this defense.

Only the Raiders and Carolina have scored more than 30 on the Chiefs this season and if you go back to last year, you can add Houston, Tennessee, and Green Bay.

All of those teams have a running game that the Bills simply do not possess.

Chiefs are gonna have some smoked Buffalo for supper come Sunday. It might turn out a little salty from all the tears but will be digestible.

End their season. They will all jump off cliffs through tables in disgust

AFC Championship Press Conferences:

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When all they do is pass I’d think are defense would feast on them. They just didn’t look that good against Baltimore . I’d think are defense should have a pretty good plan to shut them down .

Get raped by dolphins?

We should be OK especially with how Josh Allen plays. I noticed he tends to try to prolong plays by scrambling to outside just like Mahomes does and then finding open WR. So our D should have plenty of experience dealing with a QB who has a style like that.

The bills are in the position they are for a reason, just like the chiefs. It’s not very often you actually get the two best teams of the regular season in the championship game. This is gonna be a tough game for both teams. Both teams will make plays on defense and offense, but I do believe this game comes down to the offensive side. Gonna have to score some points. Gonna be close. Gonna be good. Hope the all the chiefs difference makers show up big in this one.

Mahomes, CEH, and Watkins all practiced today.

How many points will Butker leave on the table?

1? 4? 7?

You know he is going to miss an extra point and maybe an easy FG.

:thumb:

When the Chiefs have the ball:

I'm not worried about your game plan against a one dimensional Ravens team with a QB with questionable arm strength playing in gale force winds. I 100% don't care what you did to them, or what you did for any other team you faced. I only care about your matchup with the Chiefs, and I for one, hope you blitz Mahomes (and let's all be honest here: Mahomes is playing...) He's probably the best QB against the blitz there is....

And if you are going to blitz like you did against the Ravens, then your matchup problems against Hill and Kelce become exponentially magnified.....and you are insane if you think Milano is hanging with Kelce.....ain't happening in a million years.

And while it's uncertain at this point, there is the possibility we'll have Watkins back, and while the guy is made out of glass, he comes up big when he plays in the playoffs. But he's not the key component in the offense anyways, and a combo of Hardman, Pringle, and Robinson can easily match the production.


When the Bills have the ball:
I would agree that Brown helps, but he's not a world beater by any stretch, and how much of the "Brown" benefit is off-set with gimpy Beasley (for all intent and purposes, it seems to me that maybe he isn't as gimpy as people think). I think Breeland potentially not being available can be big, but in our first matchup, we didn't have Sneed either (who has played amazing this season for a rookie, and has the speed to keep up with most of the fastest receivers). Net Neutral impact in my mind, and we have a solid defensive core.

We actually match up well with your receiving core. Diggs is going to get his, but nobody on this end is scared of Brown, Beasley, Dawson, etc. Diggs is amazing, but most of the rest is pedestrian. As a unit they all work well together, no differently than the Chiefs core, but the Chiefs DBs match up very well against that group. On top of that, the Chiefs do a fantastic job disguising coverages and blitzing, no differently than they did against the Bills in the first game.

All this talk about "the Bills are a different team" doesn't change the fact that this is a great matchup for the Chiefs. As I've always said, it guarantees absolutely nothing, and the Bills most certainly can win the game. However, to just assume that the Bills are better, or match up differently just "because" is silly. There are a lot of unanswered questions in the specific matchups that don't simply go away just because the Bills are playing good ball.

The Bills are a different team now?

Guess what? So are the Chiefs. They've handily beaten both Tampa and NO since the halfway point, two of the very best defenses in the NFL. They've had the kitchen sink thrown at them every week and the starters haven't lost a game since week 5.

They're tested, rested, and ready. Breeland and Watkins both practiced today, they're both going to play.

Best defenses I've seen vs Patrick Mahomes are probably the Chargers & 49ers. That of course requires you to manufacture a pass rush using 4 down lineman named...Bosa, Ingram, Buckner & Bosa. Good Luck.

You have to get pressure by not sacrificing people in coverage. You bring a blitz & you are dead meat.

The combination of Mahomes, Andy Reid as a play designer and caller, and the Chiefs WR's makes the Chiefs nearly impossible to cover. This season, defenses have hoped to prevent the big passing play by using two deep safeties. It is the best way to slow down the Chiefs offense that I've seen. Buffalo kept two deep and a light box up front in order to dare the Chiefs to run. The Chiefs obliged but the Bills couldn’t stop them on the ground. The Chargers were able to use that deep coverage and add on with four-man pressures that allowed for more coverage on the second level. And just by keeping the game close, that still left a chance for the Chiefs to pull away at the end of the game for wins.

The coverage aren’t so much about if the Chiefs will beat the defense but more so how the Chiefs will beat the defense. That’s the problem with stopping the Chiefs offense, solving one problem creates another. This is incredibly oversimplified, but Tyreek Hill has been able to feast on single-high coverage and when the Chiefs face two-high safeties, it’s time for Travis Kelce. Pick your poison.

Even the best corners in the league haven’t been able to hold up and few safeties have the range to get from the middle of the field over to the sideline in order to catch Hill on the outside. Take the Tampa Bay game when the Buccaneers tried to run their typical defense, but even Carlton Davis, who had played like one of the better corners in the league, could only do so much in man coverage. He repeatedly got burned in the first quarter. Hill had six receptions on seven targets for 188 yards and three touchdowns against single-high coverages in that game.

Kelce’s ability to work the intermediate middle of the field when the safeties are playing deep has been a huge part of the Kansas City passing game this season and a big reason why he has had the greatest season by a TE in NFL history as teams have been employing the 2-high tactic. Between Reid's route concepts and Kelce’s run after the catch ability, he’s been one of the more productive receivers after the catch.

For as much as defenses have tried to vary game plans against the Chiefs, the best defense this year has been an offense able to keep up. That’s how the Raiders gave the Chiefs their lone loss with Mahomes.

Buffalo might still present the most interesting test as a team that figured out how to slow down the offense, but couldn’t stop the run when they dared the Chiefs to do it. But since that game, the Bills’ run defense has improved, which could limit the damage done on the ground, though it’s no guarantee the Chiefs would give in to the light boxes again. But the Bills’ pass defense has also improved after a rough start and on its best day, the Buffalo offense has the ability to put up points.

Still, we’re talking about everything breaking just right for a team to defend and hang with the Chiefs. It’s not impossible, but even without blowing teams away, Kansas City has made it as hard as possible to take them down.

Good Luck!

Don't forget the Saints.

The Raiders, though, kept them off balance by using the run game to setup deep play action. Buffalo doesn't really present enough rushing threat to do that. You can't just line up and sling it deep - you have to keep the defense honest, which is what the Raiders did.

Maybe I missed it, but has anyone made an OJ Simpson joke yet?

Yeah, they said they don't claim him.

Of course, he's still in the Bills HoF, so they do, in fact, claim him.

Mahomes toe looks pretty darn good in that live video...

Your cowardice is disgusting.

:thumb:

And that’s the closest I’ll ever get to having a foot fetish

He missed one XP and no FGs in last season's playoffs and had been perfect in the regular season this year since Carolina through the end of the season.

So, I guess this is one of those "a rare thing happened so rare things will continue to happen all the time" kind of things?

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Throw it to our other 1,000 yard receiver or former 1,000 yard receiver

That definitely worked well in the first matchup.

So the teams will play hard and the one that scores the most points will win? Got it. Astute post.

LMAO

That dipshit was probably one of the first to whine about the QB sneak call last season.

You only had 1 1,000 yard receiver on your team. Sorry

See keep living in the past. That would be like me assuming the Radiers was going to beat your ass the in the second meeting like they did in the 1st. See how that works

Lot of talk for a team that won by 9pts in the last meeting with the Bills on a game clinching FG

Who's #1?

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