At this point it's comical. The same ****ing shit STILL happens under her watch. Puts out some subpar shit with no logical overarching plot and spend more time reverse engineering fixes and contradicting prior material than actually telling a compelling story. The fact it apparently happened in production this time around is even more damning.

Swap around ROTS and TFA and that's pretty much the exact same list as far as stuff I've actually watched. So no Mando, Boba Fett, or Solo.

Solo took a lot of heat because TLJ pissed people off so badly.

But when I finally convinced myself to watch it, I really enjoyed it. I've even re-watched it.

I'm thinking that TFA is the end of my 're-watchable' line. I can't imagine re-watching Obi-Wan or Boba. And definitely nothing after those.

Mando's storytelling ended up feeling like a typical fetch quest RPG by season 2.

TFA prematurely killed any interest I would've had in Solo. There's no point when I know he ends as a depressed estranged vagabond riding aimlessly around with a giant furry until his own son eventually guts him and yeets him down the proverbial endless shaft. He didn't even get redemption for how shitty his life ended up being.

Solo is awesome. Full of fun. Watch it.

Already seen the only part I'd have any interest in, which is Daenerys works for Darth Maul now.

just the scene where han meets chewie is amazing

and holy **** the kessel run...DON'T YOU WANT TO SEE THE KESSEL RUN!? :drool:

It did, yes.

But it was also interesting. The ancillary characters were good. The production values were good.

I found the 'bottle episodes' as engaging and entertaining as any 'payoff' episode of Obi Wan.

When your filler is as good as the filet mignon someone else is serving, that's a pretty strong sign that the latter just isn't a very good chef.

I JUST WANT MY CHILDHOOD FEELS BACK!! AGAIN!!

Rogue One
Empire
New Hope
Return of the Jedi
Mando
Revenge of the Sith
Solo
Obi Wan
Phantom Menace
AOTC
TFA
Book of Boba
TLJ
Rise of Skywalker

Yeah, you saw it right mother ****ers.

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His video posted a couple hours ago says that George Lucas has taken over the writing for the Obi Wan series moving forward.

Honestly, that seems to be a prerequisite for being a huge Star Wars nerd...hating everything about Star Wars.

Claims floating around that Ewan McGregor, Executive producer on several of the episodes was extremely frustrated with Thunder**** Kennedy removing John Williams' scores for moments in the show and replacing them with watered down compositions instead.

The reason?

Thunder**** Kennedy didn't want to "confuse the viewers" and make the show "too cinematic". She didn't want it to feel like a movie, but more of a smaller production.

Well, what else can I say besides MISSION ****ING ACCOMPLISHED, THUNDER****. It looks like a film school project. So, ****ing bullseye. Well done. Remove one of the most iconic things from the franchise, in the score and replace it with horseshit.

How is this dumbass in charge of anything beyond wiping her own ass?

Fortunately, she will no longer be involved in any future projects that John Favreau and Dave Filoni, and possibly George Lucas are involved with.

Her only confirmed involvement with a project is Skeleton Crew.

That's BS. Williams only composed the Obi-Wan theme.

Theres a kernel of truth in that, IMO

Pretty sure he's talking about prior scores. Would've dug some Duel of the Fates personally. Been wondering why the score was so lackluster. Score another for Kennedy. At this point she has to be outright sabotaging, right? Like, it can't be this ****ing hard. It's ****ing Star Wars.

LMAO Wait, they haven't even used Imperial March, have they? Just realized that. Wow, what a **** up if that's accurate.

stop watching

Didn't want to confuse you into thinking it was a movie.

Lmmfgdao

Is that YouTube channel the only place you get these "leaks" from? Because according to that dude Kennedy has been fired at least a half dozen times over. Seems like a clickbait tuber.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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yeah that is complete nonsense...wallcrawler digging hard to justify his hatred

the dark side i sense in him

well this explains a lot

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Mike Zeroh is not a credible source for Star Wars news. I quit folllowing his channel a long time ago. He thinks George is going to back the franchise and Gina Carano is gonna be hired back, among other things (I wish he was right more often, I liked Gina's character and would be all for it).

I don't know about anyone being fired, but I do know Andrew Stanton, who wrote The Lion, Witch, and the Wardrobe among other things for Disney, was brought in and basically wrote all of episodes five and six....which I thought episode five was worlds better than episode 4 of the series.

Obi-Wan is among, if not, my favorite character in Star Wars. I have wanted to love this series....and there are parts that I have loved. There are also parts that I has disliked, and parts (Reeva's interogation of Leia in episode 4, for example, that have outright made me cringe)

If tonight's finale can somehow be a home run, it will go a long way in how I think of the whole series. If they miss the landing, then my disappointment will be great.

Yeah, no ****ing way should Ms. Marvel be getting a bigger production budget than OBI-WAN ****ing Kenobi.

Stupid ****ing Disney.

Yeah, that's ****ing lame.

Pretty sure Kenobi had the least episodes of the Star Wars shows.

oh my

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"Guy who works for show says show is greatest thing ever to ever happen ever."

Star Wars: Obi-Wan Kenobi
 

I don’t have a problem with Vader not killing or abducting Obi Wan in the fire as he knows Obi Wan isn’t a real threat and torturing him is plenty satisfying for him. What bothers me most is something a lot of these shows do, which is inconsistent or stupid characters just so things can happen or sometimes no reason at all.

Vader hates Reva and clearly wants her dead. In that moment he isn’t just giving one saber blow to the mid section and walking away. He’s slicing and dicing like he did the younglings and innocent villagers. If you don’t have the conviction to kill her off don’t put her in a position where she obviously would be if you stuck to Vader’s character.

Rogue One once they get to Scariff is the best “Star Wars” ever put on film. That 3rd act may never be topped.

Why would he hate her? Why would he give a shit about her at all? He thought so little of her that he didn't even pull his own lightsaber and obviously does not consider her to be a threat in any respect. Leaving her in humiliation having to deal with her own failure would seem to be very much in his character.

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I'm perfectly capable of enjoying Obi as flawed popcorn fare with occasional narrative delights, . . . but the Claystanning in this thread certainly at the very least erodes the credibility of his righteous anger at a the Predator project he hasn't even seen yet.

I thought that finale was pretty phenomenonal and I don't know how it could have ended better than it did.

Can't wait for fans to restore that final duel with some actual Star Wars music. Finally got a halfway decent duel from Disney and it's dragged hard by the lack of production. I mean, a desolate dark grey landscape and music you'd hear at your 8th graders band recital? ****, man.

Aftermath was nice. Qui Gon had more personality in his minute here than the entirety of the Phantom Menace.

Hoped he would say he wanted to do some improvisational comedy, . . . NOW. . .

What the hell was Reva even doing going after Luke? The one she's pissed at is Vader, so I guess it's because Luke is his son, but she should know Vader has absolutely no knowledge of him even existing so it would be meaningless.

I understand that the limited amount of screen time Vader gets doing badass shit is a big reason why it's so awesome when we finally get it, but I really just want to see more of that.

Stopping the spaceship from taking off then toying with Reva was awesome.

Didn't really make much sense (nor did they really add to her character much at all), so those scenes dragged down the episode for me.

Don't have to dig too hard.

Dumbass writing? Check.

Shitty score? Check.

Film school quality production? Check.


You don't have to be a genius to figure out how much something like a soundtrack can impact a film. You have access to John Williams' work, and you go for the 4th grade band concert instead.

Your main character takes a backseat to much less interesting characters that nobody gives a shit about, all the while ruining one of the best moments of A New Hope in which Leia sends the message to Obi Wan, explaining who she is by saying " You served with my father in the Clone Wars", instead of saying "You rescued me from Flea and then rescued me again while I was held by K-Mart inquisitor dipshit at the Trans America Building.

It's just ****ing stupid.

YES...came here to post that.
I was wondering if I had missed something because I couldn't figure out why she was so intent on killing him.
To get back at Vader by killing the son he didn't know he had...and he wouldn't have any knowledge he was dead? OK:rolleyes:

Finale was the best episode of the series. Not much of it made logical sense, but whatever, it's Star Wars.

I'm debating on if i wanna join in on the criticisms or not. Again, it's Star Wars....

Darth Vader's helmet kind of sucks. That's like the 3rd or 4th time it's been cracked in the same manner. He should get that checked out later with Papa Palps.

Note that the entire thing is aimed at children, and then note that the people most fascinated with the show and sunshine pumping for it are the most child like posters here.

If you put a Hot Pocket in the microwave when Obi landed on Alderaan for the big reunion, you would only have a lukewarm pocket by the time he skeeted back off again.

If anything, she should have wanted his children with incredible force potential to survive so that they could eventually kill him (thereby getting her own revenge on him).

Does Reva still have the saber hole in her gut? How do you even move after that let alone jump on a space ship (that she probably wouldn't have access to since she was left for dead) then go to Tattooine. From there meander around a dual sun planet that is hot as hell looking for 1 dude named "Owen" that is a farmer.

I think they were trying to do the "2 fights at the same time" thing they did in the movies. But they took away the most interesting Kenobi vs Vader and gave us gut wound Reva vs Owen and Baroo.

Why do I even care about the Reva vs Owen fight. I know that Owen and Baroo and Luke are alive and well in ANH. My interest was in what drove Kenobi and Vader in a show named Obi Wan Kenobi.

Live action inquisitors were a massive waste of time in the end. Just a plot device for Reva, who is probably going to get the Rose treatment and die off screen to some horrible Star Wars version of crotch rot or something.

So really, when you look at this, literally all of the suffering and death caused by Darth Vader is linked to Obi Wan Kenobi failing to finish the job not once, but now twice?

Like, the original fight with Anakin on Mustafar could be forgiven. He was literally burning alive when Obi Wan walked away. I mean he could have just force pushed his remains into the lava but whatever. You know. He was bummed he had to do it.

This is just egregious. "Goodbye Darth." Ill just walk away now. Feel free to torture and murder your way across the galaxy for another decade, until we should meet again, at which point I'll use the force to peace out.

This shouldn't exist. It's like Rocky V. We should just all agree it didn't happen and never speak of it again.

And that Reva shit, going after Luke when Vader isn't even aware he exists? Pointless.

As an aside, I always wondered why he wasn't going by Luke Lars, which goes back to the original trilogy. Youd think if you were trying to hide him, going by Skywalker wouldn't be a great idea. Leia went by Organa. Just seems weird that Luke would keep his real name.

Poor Owen, man. This dude endured a lot of bullshit and eventually got barbecued with his wife because he took in his psychotic stepbrother's kid. No good deed goes unpunished.

I'm not the high-level nerd some of you are, but I liked it well enough as I was watching each week. But looking back and overall, this show just doesn't seem like a very good idea. They just really should have thought of a better story.

Obi wan and Vader meeting at all kind of mucks up the scene in ANH where they meet and it's pretty clear that it's their first meeting since Anakin was toasted at Mustafar.

Obviously, both characters needed to survive this series. But Vader letting Obi Wan survive twice was silly. And Obi Wan letting Vader survive...I get that Kenobi was conflicted and had the sads, but gotta man up...the billions Vader killed after that, including Leia's entire planet, is kind of indirectly on him.

Other than knowing that you're now a murdering half man/half machine who is hunting down all Jedi and rebels and trying to take over the galaxy, I had no idea that you would go on to murder so many people!

Yup, this series pretty much painted Obi-Wan as the dumbest mother****er in the galaxy.

And if "My friend Anakin is dead"....well, isn't that even more incentive to just off Vader then and there?

If nothing of Anakin remains then just finish off that Dark Side husk that remains. There's no longer attachment, so WTF is the problem.

...sigh...

Forget it. I'm getting caught into that trap of putting way too much thought into a Star Wars property.

Well, that was fun. The Vader/Obi-Wan fight was even better than expected. Ignoring the Dragonball Z style power up at least.

But, man.... that writing was pretty damn awful. The more I think about it, the dumber it gets. I'm just going to try and avoid the brain dead details and maybe watch the fight scene again.

Great to see Liam. Wasn't expecting that.

It's best just to not think about it.

Light saber fights, pew pew. That's the good stuff. We'll remember Obi-Wan for that. Not that other stuff....

While there were some obvious plot holes, inconsistency with established canon and just head scratching “what were they thinking” moments, this episode was at the same time bad ass. Watching Obi-Wan and Vader going at it, and Obi-Wan abandoning his typical defensive form III light saber style for a much more aggressive style, I was wondering if maybe he wasn’t tapping into a bit of the dark side as he was showing power we haven’t witnessed from him before.

Whatever, I’ll take good with the bad and enjoy the entertainment. I do plan on binge watching it here in the next few days to see if I get any different kind of take/feelings about it.

What the **** do you do with Reva, though? They've painted themselves into a corner where she pretty much has to have her plotline of now knowing who at least Luke and probably Leia closed somehow.

I think she's actually more hated than Rose was from TLJ, and that's a pretty spectacular feat. You'd almost have to fundamentally change the character for people to accept it. The bullshit Disney pulled before the series coupled with the lackluster writing and performance has probably ****ed the character regardless.

Really easy fix is to have Obi Wan sense Luke is in danger while he's fighting Vader. Gives him a valid reason to get the **** out posthaste instead of meandering away like he did leaving Vader to terrorize the galaxy. Have all the post fight exposition during it instead so Obi Wan has even more of a reason to go ultra aggressive during the latter stages of the fight.

This shit really isn't that hard to do and it's baffling Disney keeps fumbling the writing like this.

She’ll get her own series to tie it all up in a nice disorderly package for us, wait and see.

**** these opinions, I LOVED it! I thought the last episode was INCREDIBLE! You already knew Vader was going to live and you already knew Obi-Wan was going to go into isolation. What is not to like here? Forget the woulda, coulda, shoulda here - this is a bridge in the timeline - nothing more. :thumb:

3 movies worth watching, and they're all in the original trilogy.
After that, why bother? The franchise is dead. Disney's just making a few bucks on the corpse while the fanboys slowly wake up to how shitty it's been since then.

Outside of the Vader vs Obi Wan fight scene in the last episode, the entire season just sucked. As others have pointed out it just has little to no continuity with the original movies. Mehhh... **** Disney and **** Kathleen Kennedy. On a side note... the new Star Trek is kicking ass in my opinion. Loving it.

You miss the whole bit where Obi Wan has now had the chance to destroy Darth Vader TWICE now, due to this shitshow?

It makes Obi Wan the direct cause of Vader being allowed to kill everyone after that point, AFTER Obi Wan watched him rampage through a settlement murdering innocent bystanders.

"I will do what I must" actually means, "Ill kick your ass and walk away leaving you free to kill more people." LMMFGDAO.

I don't put Alderaan on Vader though, it was Grand Moff Tarkin that ordered Alderaan to be destroyed during his interrogation of Leia about the location of the Rebel base.

He stated that Dantooine was too remote of a planet to make a proper example, so he targeted Alderaan.

But yeah, Obi Wan comes off as a Batman esque dumbass here. His refusal to destroy Vader just keeps allowing him to do horrible shit when he could have ended it entirely.

Yeah, this is where I'm at. I mean, there's only so much tension you can create when we know that all the major characters in the final episode are going to survive and they obviously have to tapdance around it.

Not sure if I liked the way they shoehorned Kenobi calling him "Darth" or not, as a lame continuity band-aid going back to the '77 original. But at least they tried.

At the end of the day, I enjoyed it, despite the warts. I guess that's all that matters.

"Goodbye Darth" was cringey as hell....

Well, I guess the alternative would be to have Lucas do another special edition of the original, changing Guinness's line to "only a master of evil, Anakin." But of course, he wouldn't stop there. And I'd just as soon not see Jar Jar added to the cantina scene. :D

Or even an earthquake/volcano erupting causing the ground beneath their feet to separate them (similar to TFA's ending). Anything really.

Similar to Reva's plan to kill Luke making no sense, Kenobi's decision to leave the fight in that moment took me out of the episode. Kenobi is no pacifist, he was a war hero. If Obi-Wan truly thinks Anakin is irredeemable and he actually had the power to kill him (which also makes little sense to me in itself how he got so overpowered in the matter of days, but fine), there isn't really any good reason for him to still be alive after that fight. Other than, of course, that he has to be for the franchise's continuity.

We got a good fight, but as I said earlier, I would have preferred the series end after a great E5.

And I get that ENTIRELY! But the fact of the matter remains that A NEW HOPE is what started this whole ball rolling! This is merely Disney "fluff" to FILL the timeline - nothing more, nothing less and all of your points are completely valid - no argument at all.

Yeah. Kenobi not killing him is dumb. And it took me out. Same with Reva. I thought she was going there to **** with Obi-Wan. Nope. Just went there to be…evil? What?

Gripes aside, and they’re big gripes, I really enjoyed the episode. Little Leia I thought was excellent. Maybe it’s because my daughter is 8(even though she’s nothin like this character), that makes me a captive audience, but I thought her stuff was compelling. As bad as it was early, it was good at the end.

Fight was awesome. That’s why I’m here. **** yeah.

McGregor remains the shining performance in everything post 1983. And per usual he was let down by garbage writing.

Anakin is so powerful with the force but can’t sense his own daughter.

That aspect doesn't bother me. First, he doesn't know he has a daughter or son, and second, all he cares about is catching/killing Kenobi.

Hopefully Andor is better.