Tigerboard keeps calling him a Mid Major Coach.

Tigerboard is legit ****ing the dumbest message board on the internet. It has the worst setup I've ever seen.

It’s really bad, don’t know why they haven’t changed it.

Tigerboard was last redesigned during the Netscape era.

That was ugly tonight, but at least it was a win. But man...

maybe gates can help coach up drink this fall

what a job he is doing damn, great hire

Is he just going to get hired somewhere else? Would be a bummer.

Nice to have a Mizzou team that has an offensive plan that looks practiced and with some play designs and concepts that the players generally follow.

Man Ole Miss played out of their fricking minds in the second half. Would be an inexcusable loss.

Let's hope that the Tigers pull it out. There's still time. They should win this one

I hate Ole Miss, they always play Mizzou tough.

That’s what sucks about the SEC, they have those magical games that go against you.

That is it. Pulled it out! MIZ!!

Whew, those assholes wouldn’t die.

ZOU

From Cuonzo Martin's mess to a double bye in 12 months. That's crazy.

What Gates did was pretty remarkable. More impressive than Year 1 of Martin, even.

I'm excited about the squad next year. They need to hunt a wing scorer or 2 in the portal. I think Brown comes back and Mosely, too.

Pairing the young forwards they have coming in with those guys could be pretty formidable.

Nice season lads. Looks like y'all got a good one in Gates.

And other than Kobe Brown he did it with his own players that he brought in.

So looking at seeding, Mizzou would get the double bye, then the game 4 winner, which is Tennessee vs winner of SC vs Old Miss. I'm guessing that will be Tennessee. They beat them once already. But that doesn't mean that they will do it again. I'm sure that the Vols are going to be looking for revenge. But I'm going to be looking for another win Here's what I was looking at for seeding

SEC Men's Basketball Tournament 2023
All times central, all games at Bridgestone Arena

Wednesday, March 8
First round

Game 1: 12-seed South Carolina vs. 13-seed Ole Miss, 6 p.m. (SEC Network)

Game 2: 11-seed Georgia vs. 14-seed LSU, 8 p.m. (SEC Network)

Thursday, March 9
Second round

Game 3: 8-seed vs. 9-seed, noon (SEC Network)

Game 4: 5-seed Tennessee vs. Game 1 winner, 2 p.m. (SEC Network)

Game 5: 7-seed vs. 10-seed, 6 p.m. (SEC Network)

Game 6: 6-seed Vanderbilt vs. Game 2 winner, 8 p.m. (SEC Network)

Friday, March 10
Quarterfinals

Game 7: 1-seed Alabama vs. Game 3 winner, noon (ESPN)

Game 8: 4-seed Missouri vs. Game 4 winner, 2 p.m. (ESPN)

Game 9: 2-seed Texas A&M vs, Game 5 winner, 6 p.m. (SEC Network)

Game 10: 3-seed Kentucky vs. Game 6 winner, 8 p.m. (SEC Network)

Saturday, March 11
Semifinals

Game 11: Game 7 winner vs. Game 8 winner, noon (ESPN)

Game 12: Game 9 winner vs. Game 10 winner, 2 p.m. (ESPN)

Gates is a good man, looking like a great hire.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">��WATCH: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mizzou?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Mizzou</a> AD Desiree Reed-Francois and head coach Dennis Gates escort guard Isiaih Mosley during Saturday&#39;s senior day ceremony <a href="https://twitter.com/KSHB41?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KSHB41</a> <a href="https://t.co/FdqCoYPpdq">pic.twitter.com/FdqCoYPpdq</a></p>&mdash; Aaron Ladd (@aaronladd0) <a href="https://twitter.com/aaronladd0/status/1632167942652841985?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

dumbass me posted this in the wrong thread from a year ago

Question for Duncan or DJ or anyone else smarter than me: what's your projection for Mo Diarra next year?

On a somewhat unrelated note:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/oth...34e4601f928667

Our AD has been busy with coaching changes.

should have been coach of the year

Solid starter who gives them 7-9 points and 6-7 rebounds a game in 25 minutes or so?


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From the Athletic

Missouri Tigers
Killer Rating: 52.8

Okay, here it is, lock it in: Your first pick to break brackets in the second round is Missouri. The Tigers, after a decade of mediocrity or worse in the SEC, are likely to land a seed around the 8-line, and with one of the highest Killer Ratings we’ve ever seen, they’d make a lethal Round 2 underdog.

It took one year for coach Dennis Gates, whose nicknames from colleagues include “The Sheriff” and “relationship collector”, to turn things around at Cleveland State, and he’s rebuilt Missouri even more quickly. Under Gates, the Tigers often look like they’re running the old Princeton offense on speed, with series of accurate passes leading either to quick long-distance shots or open space near the basket for big man Kobe Brown. Taking boatloads of threes (43.5% of FGA, ranking 41st in the NCAA) and making them at a 36.2% clip (ranking 67th), and shooting even more effectively inside (56.4%, ranking 11th), Missouri scores 120 adjusted points per 100 possessions, ninth-best in the country.

Defensively, Missouri forces steals on a whopping 14.8% of opponent possessions, with D’Moi Hodge, who has at least 5 steals in seven games this season, acting as a one-man wrecking crew. (Seriously, there are NCAA teams that don’t force turnovers on 14.8% of opponent possessions!) Overall, as the Tigers forego rebounding for pressure, they’re allowing opponents to shoot over 50% from inside and over 35% from beyond the arc. Not good, Missouri. But Slingshot says the disruption of the live-ball turnovers they compel will serve them well in the tournament — and steals have already been key to their wins over Arkansas, Iowa State and Tennessee this year.

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If you want an off-the-wall but eerily similar statistical comparison to Missouri, check out Eastern Kentucky under Jeff Neubauer from about a decade ago. With high-pressure defense, those Colonels were a top-five team at generating turnovers and took as many threes as possible without caring much where rebounds at either end clanged. In 2014, they beat Murray State and Belmont in their conference tournament, snagged a 15-seed and held Kansas to a one-point lead through three quarters of their matchup before succumbing in the NCAA Tournament.

These Tigers are about 11 points per 100 possessions better than that Eastern Kentucky squad, and the distinctive profile they share makes it very hard to run away from them. They could keep confounding good opponents deep into this year’s tournament.

I like it...looking forward to the tourney for the first time in years.

Of course Mizzou will get stuck on the 8/9 line.

Stuck behind a half dozen teams they beat. Oftentimes badly. I believe I saw that they're one of like 5 teams in the country with 5 Q1 wins and no Q2 or worse losses? The other 4 are all projected to be top 3 seeds. I think the last week grew that list by a little bit but we're still talking fewer than 10 teams with that many quality wins and ZERO bad losses on their resume this year.

But we've gotten so far up our own asses with this bracketology shit. Suddenly beating the 200th ranked team in the country hurts worse than beating the 100th ranked team in the country even though BOTH of those teams are gone to lose if you they play a quality opponent who doesn't step on its dick.

Once you get outside the top 100 you're multiplying by 0. They're all rummies but these goddamn Kenpom things want to pretend like there's a vast distinction there.

Mizzou's gonna get ****ed. They're going to get stuck in some brutal bracket where if they're LUCKY they manage to get a 2 seed in the 2nd round but in all probability they're just going to get steamrolled by a 1 seed instead of getting a legitimate shot to demonstrate that they're a genuine Sweet 16 caliber squad.

It's just horseshit.

I agree. Mizzou finished with a better record than Tennessee and beat them, yet Mizzou is barely ranked at 25 and expected to be around an 8 seed, while the Vols are ranked 17 and still expected to be a 3 or 4 seed. Crazy. I'm hoping that the Tigers can win a couple of games in the SEC tournament and move up. But short of winning it, they likely won't move above 6. If they get the Vols in the SEC tournament and beat them again and still get a lower seed than them, that's gonna be a bunch of crap

Not a huge college basketball fan, but if they are currently ranked 25th, why would they be an 8 seed? With four brackets that would translate to ~ 6 seed. Again forgive my ignorance on this but how would teams ranked below them get a higher seed than them?

Mizzou's non conference schedule made Bill Snyder blush. They also had to have a buzzer beater to knock off UCF and Wichita State went all Nick Anderson. Not to mention KU boat racing them in Columbia. That's why you are an 8th seed.

You would think so. And I'm hoping for a 6 or better. But most bracket projections are inexplicably placing them as an 8 seed, give or take a spot. It makes no sense. Just like the Tennessee ranking that I talked about. They should not be ranked higher. But, those rankings are based on polls, so I guess that since Mizzou is in year one with Gates and being a good team, the poll voters aren't giving them any credit for what they've accomplished.

Yeah. They did get handled by the Gheyhawks. The Aggies and Auburn beat them pretty good too. But they beat Illinois and Kentucky by double digits and had a total of 5 Q1 wins. So it's not like they did poorly outside of that non conference schedule. I just think that an 8 seed is a big middle finger to the Tigers.

Mizzou is #4 seed in SEC and would likely face #5 seed Tennessee in quarterfinal.

If Mizzou wins that game, I would expect # 6 seed. Mizzou has an opportunity to improve their seeding in tournament but has to earn it.

If they make a deep run in the SEC tournament they have to get at least a 6.

That would be false. These conference tournaments don't mean shit aside from teams that steal bids.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As seen just now on CBS, I believe this is a first in terms of the NCAA broadly laying out the committee’s layer-by-layer process on a made-for-TV graphic a week out from the bracket reveal. <a href="https://t.co/RopEq8sCAh">pic.twitter.com/RopEq8sCAh</a></p>&mdash; Matt Norlander (@MattNorlander) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/1632444237332586498?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Again - who cares?

Beating the 100th team in the country and beating the 200th team in the country is little more than mathmatical masturbation. They're both bad basketball teams.

Y'all wanna act like there's some significant distinction between beeting Colorado State and Howard because of how they ranked. There isn't. Neither of those teams are going to beat a quality opponent when the opponent plays well and both of those teams CAN beat a quality opponent if they don't.

It's a distinction without a difference. It's multiplying by zero.

And every team has some 'phew' wins on their record - they balance out in the wash.

I'm not saying they should be a 3 seed. But that's a team that should be no worse than sitting between a 6/7 based on the quality of their wins and lack of losses to poor opponents. The rest is just jerking off to spreadsheets.

Again - Mizzou continues to beat teams, and BADLY, only to see those teams barely budge in the rankings while Mizzou gets virtually zero credit for the win.

That doesn't wash. You can't say "Oh well sure, Iowa St got boat raced by Mizzou, but that's a quality team so we'll move them from 9th to 12th..." then on the flipside say "eh, Mizzou was 38th, we'll move 'em to 36th..."

That seems to put very little 'quality' in the opponent.

This just isn't ratcheting both ways for Mizzou.

All of this is true.

There is still a big difference between a UCF or Wichita State who is about 100 compared to Lindenwood, SEMO, Houston Baptist, Southern Indiana, Mississippi Valley State who around 300.

Mizzou is also 5-8 in Quad 1. Tennessee is 7-6. Tennessee has played a tougher schedule.

2 more quad 1 wins, but a head to head loss, is enough for yhat team to be a 3 seed and the other to be an 8? Tennessee is also 3-3 in Quad 2 and Missouri is 4-0 in Quad 2.

Liberty is ranked higher in NET. They're 23-8

0-3 Quad 1
1-2 Quad 2
6-3 Quad 3
16-0 Quad 4

How in the hell is that better than Mizzou?

Missouri is 49th in NET rankings
23-8 record
Quad 1 5-8
Quad 2 4-0
Quad 3 6-0
Quad 4 8-0

Illinois is 33rd in NET rankings
20-11 record
Quad 1 2-10
Quad 2 7-1
Quad 3 4-0
Quad 4 7-0
Loss head to head to Mizzou

How the hell is Illinois 16 spots ahead of Missouri?

The whole system makes absolutely 0 sense. It's ****ing dumb.

It is because, and I shit you not, they beat better Q4 teams than the Q4 teams we beat.

That is EXACTLY the absurdity I'm talking about when I say there's no meaningful distinction between half the teams in CBB.

And when people wanna talk about how poor our Q4 results anchor us since we beat these Q4 teams to drag us down yet Kentucky's going to be seeded right alongside us with 2 losses in Tier 3 and 1 in tier four.

Better Quad 4 wins, bro...

(this is seriously the answer)

It's the biggest joke of ranking I've ever seen in my life. That Liberty thing is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Scrap this shit and toss it.

ChiefsCountry is still mad for the <false> rumor that Missouri reneged on Mosley’s NIL deal. All of his blustering is due to that.

I wish that were what was wrong with Mosley, unfortunately it seems as though he's just a nutcase. They should take whatever the NIL cash he was due this season and prorate over just the games he actually participated in. What a waste of talent, a roster spot, and NIL money. Hope he's a good at taking fast food orders and making french fries.

What a stupid shitty take. ****ing loser.

That is insanely stupid.

Announcers blowing the Tennessee Vols right on queue

hopefully we stomp their asses

1 for 8 on 3-pointers so far and playing sloppy. Need to tighten it up.

Not sure how that was a charge, guy ****ing fell down

I'm sorry but it's just plain as day that these teams are similar quality squads.

Different styles, but if they play 10 times, you're gonna get no worse than a 4-6 split one direction or the other and 5-5 seems most likely.

These teams should both be somewhere on the 5 through 7 lines. This 8/9 nonsense is just bullshit.

Awaka has got nothing for Brown. They need to keep feeding Kobe.

Well that's a kick in the dick.

Jesus we're 2/13 from 3 pt range and 3/7 from the ft line, but only one possession down. The biggest thing I've seen so far is we are getting rebounds pretty regularly.

They have to hit some shots in the 2nd half. This is a terrible shooting performance.

Yup. Shouldn't be in this game, but we are.

It's amazing we're only down 3 and Tennessee is 5/11 from 3 and we are 3/14. If we shoot like normal, then we are blowing these counts out. Just cold as ice right now.

3-14 on threes and 3-7 on free throws. Need to clean that up as well as points off turnovers.

TN's just doing a better job of pure shot-making right now.

I actually think, apart from pure shooting, Mizzou is outplaying Tennessee by a fair bit. The ball movement/security is night and day. And Mizzou is hanging in on straight D and rebounding.

But there have been a lot of times that TN has been in a bit of trouble and some guy's just splashed a jumper with a hand in his face whereas Mizzou runs a perfect set to get a clean look and misses a bunny.

That big dumb white dude on their team is the dirtiest player I’ve ever seen play and they just let him do it.

One of our dudes was shoved right in the back on that 3.

33% 3 pt shooting team and they're at 50% right now. It's so frustrating, because it looks like our guys are playing damn good D, but teams seem to be on fire against us.

Plasvic is a piece of shit.

Kobe ****ing Brown

Yes he is.

Just a complete goon. Of course the broadcast team calls him 'intense'.

Wtf East?

If Brown can keep that kind of post work up, then holy shit we can do some work.

****ing East again. Jesus Christ.

They aren't nearly as talented as they have been in recent years. Vescovi is the typical college player who plays dirty, too, and wants every call. Nice shooter who is playing PG out of necessity with Ziegler out.

I can't stand Plasvic, though. He tries putting on this tough guy act. He does it against Tshiebwe. He's garbage.

I don't know what to expect from Tennessee in the tournament. Their scoring is inconsistent as hell and Ziegler be out doesn't help that. But, they are as good as anyone when they're on their A game defensively. I can see them losing Round 1 as easily I can see them making it to the Sweet 16 or Elite 8 (they don't have the offense to make it to the Final Four).

Kobe and those outlet passes - man he's good at those.

And yeah, East needs to get his shit under control and stop trying to play hero ball. He's done that 3-4 times in this game and I don't think any of them have hit.

It just ends up a wasted possession.

Refs are letting alot of legit fouls go, but calling a lot of ticky tack shit.

Well at least they're doing it on both sides.

They're a mirror image of Mizzou, IMO.

The problem for Mizzou, a good offensive team, is that sometimes they play good offense and the shots just don't fall. We've seen a lot of that today. Meanwhile if you're a team that plays good defense, that really just translates to good results pretty much every time.

But yeah, TN is a great defensive team that goes as it's offense goes. Mizzou is typically an outstanding offensive team that wins when they can get just enough stops on defense. Then they just have the caveats that sometimes even good offensive teams aren't hitting on a given day.

Wrecklesly dribble towards basket completely out of control and then lose the ball oob at the basket. Also don't pass the ball to anyone. That seems like a hell of a game plan.

Yeah, I prefer this style of officiating to be honest. And they've been even both ways.

I haven't had any officiating complaints thus far.

Okay East - that's about ****ing enough of you today, dude. You're keeping TN afloat.

Same ****ing shit just brick the layup instead of lose it oob.

We're really missing Gomillion and Mosely today. If either of them are getting these minutes/touches that East is pissing away, we're in really nice shape in this game.

East does not need to be playing right now. Jesus, the mother****er is playing incredibly sloppy and if he just makes a pass on those possessions he's decided that he's the only player on his team, then they probably are up 5.

Why is east getting so much playing time? I don’t get it. Mistake after mistake, loses assignment on defense, and Gholston who drug us back into the game has been out waaaaay too long.

Mizzou playing a bit sloppy so these teams are neck and neck

hopefully we pull this out