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Hammock Parties 12-07-2022 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 16651259)
Yeah, but we're 1 - 2 against teams we are most likely to meeting the AFC playoffs; TN - Win, Buff - Loss, Cinnci - Loss. That's concerning to me.

Last year we were 0-3 ROFL

Playoffs are different. We lost against the Bengals in the playoffs because Mahomes got the yips with an open Kelce waiting to take us to the SB. In Cincy it was because of the defense.

If Mahomes doesn't get the yips this year we go to the SB. Put it in six inch headlines.

Bearcat 12-07-2022 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 16651259)
Yeah, but we're 1 - 2 against teams we are most likely to meeting the AFC playoffs; TN - Win, Buff - Loss, Cinnci - Loss. That's concerning to me.

It's hard to beat a team twice in a season and best case in those 3 games is probably 2-1... meh.

I'm not concerned by the Bills loss at all. Only concerned about the Bengals loss if it gets in their head to the point of doing stupid shit in a playoff game like going for it on 4th down when they really shouldn't or forcing the long ball into coverage.

Fairly likely they won't even have to play both of them.

htismaqe 12-07-2022 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16651090)
jeff chadiha thinks the bills are winning out

He's had the Bills as his Super Bowl representative since before the season. He's doubling down at this point.

RaidersOftheCellar 12-07-2022 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16651260)
Mahomes is better on the road anyways.

The defense isn't.

Mr. Plow 12-07-2022 09:36 AM

I'm sure someone has posted this already, but the remaining schedules are....

Bengals
vs Browns (5-7)
@ Buccaneers (6-6)
@ Patriots (6-6)
vs Bills (9-3)
vs. Ravens (8-4)
Total Record 34-26

Bills
vs Jets (7-5)
vs Dolphins (8-4)
@ Bears (3-10)
@ Bengals (8-4)
vs Patriots (6-6)
Total record 32-29


Chiefs
@ Broncos (3-9)
@ Texans (1-10)
vs Seahawks (7-5)
vs Broncos (3-9)
@ Raiders (5-7)
Total Record 19-40

ptlyon 12-07-2022 09:55 AM

I like our chances

Best22 12-07-2022 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 16651259)
Yeah, but we're 1 - 2 against teams we are most likely to meeting the AFC playoffs; TN - Win, Buff - Loss, Cinnci - Loss. That's concerning to me.

That’s football. We have a younger team than CIN and BUF. Those guys are in win now mode. They’re stacking their rosters. This was a retooling year for us. Traded an All-Pro receiver and replaced him with rookies on defense and JAGs on offense. Our leading rusher is a 7th round rookie who is still getting his footing but improves every week.

I expected a rough start but this team would learn and get better as the season went on. We have a good chance to finish with 13 wins despite all this. We could beat every AFC contender in the regular season but lose in the playoffs (1995, 1997). What matters is continuous improvement. I hate Denver but when Elway won his first SB, that team got beat up by SB contenders in the regular season, but we all know how they did in the playoffs

Give it time. The 2014 team was really good against Super Bowl teams. But were only 7-7 against the rest of their schedule

Any playoff team can beat us. But we can beat any playoff team, too

RunKC 12-07-2022 10:02 AM

If the Chiefs are going to the SB it’s gonna need to be from the offense going God mode. And they can if injuries don’t occur.

I still believe that our offense is as good as it’s ever been if Hardman and Toney are back healthy. Pacheco is the best RB we’ve had since Kareem IMO and even with the tackles struggling we can do a lot of things.

Just look at the 49ers game and see how hard it is to stop us when we’re “on”. Now add Toney to that mix and it’s even harder.

Three legitimate speed receivers in MVS, Hardman and Toney create a lot of matchup problems.

ThaVirus 12-07-2022 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 16651259)
Yeah, but we're 1 - 2 against teams we are most likely to meeting the AFC playoffs; TN - Win, Buff - Loss, Cinnci - Loss. That's concerning to me.

We were 0-3 against AFC playoff teams last season and we were still a **** hair away from going to another Super Bowl.

The postseason is a totally different beast.

Hammock Parties 12-07-2022 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16651497)
If the Chiefs are going to the SB it’s gonna need to be from the offense going God mode.

or you know, just score 30 points ROFL

the chiefs held buffalo to 24 at arrowhead without gay or mcduffie or brandon williams

we get the one seed, we good

RunKC 12-07-2022 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16651566)
or you know, just score 30 points ROFL

the chiefs held buffalo to 24 at arrowhead without gay or mcduffie or brandon williams

we get the one seed, we good

Bengals moved the ball at will on us. They punted 1 time and the other time we got them on downs they drove 70 yards.

We hit Burrow once.

We can’t stop their offense

Hammock Parties 12-07-2022 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16651577)
Bengals moved the ball at will on us. They punted 1 time and the other time we got them on downs they drove 70 yards.

We hit Burrow once.

We can’t stop their offense

we just need to hold them to field goals

acting like they dropped 40 on us is stupid

RunKC 12-07-2022 10:54 AM

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Chiefs have the weakest strength of schedule left in the NFL for the remaining games. They should be the 2 seed at worst

saltydd5 12-07-2022 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 16651227)
They are

Chiefs have a better chance of winning out vs Bill. Bills won't win out. They may beat the Jets but they will drop at least one vs fins or bengals.

RaidersOftheCellar 12-07-2022 11:03 AM

I think the Bengals have a better chance of running the table than the Bills.

I don't think the Chiefs can afford any more losses. I knew that damn Colts game would bite us.

ThaVirus 12-07-2022 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16651643)
I don't think the Chiefs can afford any more losses. I knew that damn Colts game would bite us.

https://y.yarn.co/29c66450-69cd-4b88...63494_text.gif

-King- 12-07-2022 11:23 AM

Just got a bit easier with Von being out for the season if the Bengals or Jets or Dolphins can take care of business.

Hammock Parties 12-09-2022 10:45 AM

teehee

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjfBK4xX...pg&name=medium

Marcellus 12-09-2022 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16650722)
In numerous ways.

Let’s start with the most obvious…. They are 9-3 right now. Last year at the same time they were 7-5 (and about to be 7-6).

Oh I want to play. Now do the Chiefs!

RaidersOftheCellar 12-09-2022 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16651588)
we just need to hold them to field goals

acting like they dropped 40 on us is stupid

If the Bengals had scored 40+ in 7 drives, it would have been one of the worst defensive performances of all time.

The Bengals punted once and even that probably wouldn't have happened without a 10 yd penalty.

chiefforlife 12-09-2022 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16655423)
If the Bengals had scored 40+ in 7 drives, it would have been one of the worst defensive performances of all time.

The Bengals punted once and even that probably wouldn't have happened without a 10 yd penalty.

I believe we only punted once as well.

Imon Yourside 12-09-2022 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16651708)
Just got a bit easier with Von being out for the season if the Bengals or Jets or Dolphins can take care of business.

Even the Patriots have a shot

TomBarndtsTwin 12-09-2022 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 16655612)
I believe we only punted once as well.

Yup. Only one punt each.

Neither defense stopped the other.

They both rolled up over 350+ yards of offense (both balanced with over 100 yards rushing each)

Both were efficient on 3rd down. Both averaged 6.5 ypp. Both had 20+ first downs. Penalties were pretty even.

The main difference (well, two)? Chiefs had a turnover, Bengals didn't. The Bengals ran 66 plays on offense, the Chiefs only 54.

Thus the 3 point difference in the final score.

It was basically an evenly matched game. Sometimes the little things get ya.

ThaVirus 12-09-2022 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 16655684)
Yup. Only one punt each.

Neither defense stopped the other.

They both rolled up over 350+ yards of offense (both balanced with over 100 yards rushing each)

Both were efficient on 3rd down. Both averaged 6.5 ypp. Both had 20+ first downs. Penalties were pretty even.

The main difference (well, two)? Chiefs had a turnover, Bengals didn't. The Bengals ran 66 plays on offense, the Chiefs only 54.

Thus the 3 point difference in the final score.

It was basically an evenly matched game. Sometimes the little things get ya.

Staylor reminded me that the Bengals did have a turnover on downs so essentially we both did have 1 turnover a piece.

The difference was ultimately the field goal. They made one, we missed ours.

DRM08 12-09-2022 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 16655684)
Yup. Only one punt each.

Neither defense stopped the other.

They both rolled up over 350+ yards of offense (both balanced with over 100 yards rushing each)

Both were efficient on 3rd down. Both averaged 6.5 ypp. Both had 20+ first downs. Penalties were pretty even.

The main difference (well, two)? Chiefs had a turnover, Bengals didn't. The Bengals ran 66 plays on offense, the Chiefs only 54.

Thus the 3 point difference in the final score.

It was basically an evenly matched game. Sometimes the little things get ya.

The other main difference is that Mahomes was doing it with a stronger pass rush on him compared to Burrow. It sure felt a lot easier for Cincy. The Chiefs DL and OL both need to step up their game in a potential rematch.

RaidersOftheCellar 12-09-2022 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 16655612)
I believe we only punted once as well.


The offense was just fine, other than the fumble.


I’m just saying I have little confidence in the defense to get stops vs the Bengals. Hopefully they’d raise their play at home.

RunKC 12-11-2022 10:37 PM

Update as of 12/11

1-BUF bye

2-KC vs 7 LAC
3-BAL vs 6 MIA
4-TEN vs 5 CIN

tredadda 12-11-2022 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16662403)
Update as of 12/11

1-BUF bye

2-KC vs 7 NYJ
3-BAL vs 6 MIA
4-TEN vs 5 CIN

If that stayed, KCs easiest path would be for Baltimore to beat Miami.

dirk digler 12-11-2022 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16662403)
Update as of 12/11

1-BUF bye

2-KC vs 7 NYJ
3-BAL vs 6 MIA
4-TEN vs 5 CIN

Chargers are now the 7 seed. Ugh

RunKC 12-11-2022 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16662433)
Chargers are now the 7 seed. Ugh

Updated. So as of today our path would likely be:

WC-Chargers at home
Div-Bengals at home
AFCCG-Bills on the road

That is worst case scenario damn

jerryaldini 12-11-2022 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16662433)
Chargers are now the 7 seed. Ugh

Yeah if they are healthy having to beat a division opponent a third time will be a challenge.

dirk digler 12-11-2022 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16662436)
Updated. So as of today our path would likely be:

WC-Chargers at home
Div-Bengals at home
AFCCG-Bills on the road

That is worst case scenario damn

Hypothetically speaking if theses seedings stay the same going to the last week and no chance to get the 1 seed do you lose on purpose to move down a spot if possible?

KC_Connection 12-11-2022 11:01 PM

I'm reluctant to say that the Chargers will ever actually win games they are supposed to, but they really should rise to the #5 or #6 seed before the end of the season given their schedule (3 of their remaining opponents are awful in LAR, DEN and IND and the other is TEN). As long as we stay at least at the #2, we'll probably avoid them.

jerryaldini 12-11-2022 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16662442)
Hypothetically speaking if theses seedings stay the same going to the last week and no chance to get the 1 seed do you lose on purpose to move down a spot if possible?

Definitely rather play Dolphins. Chargers should pass them.

bsroyals54 12-11-2022 11:07 PM

Chiefs vs Colts 17-20

Chiefs vs Jaguars 27-17

Chiefs vs Broncos 34-28

Chiefs vs Raiders 30-29

Are we an elite team with these extremely close games vs VERY BAD teams?

dirk digler 12-11-2022 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16662445)
I'm reluctant to say that the Chargers will ever actually win games they are supposed to, but they really should rise to the #5 or #6 seed before the end of the season given their schedule (3 of their remaining opponents are awful in LAR, DEN and IND and the other is TEN). As long as we stay at least at the #2, we'll probably avoid them.

I was thinking about that as well

|Zach| 12-11-2022 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bsroyals54 (Post 16662449)
Chiefs vs Colts 17-20

Chiefs vs Jaguars 27-17

Chiefs vs Broncos 34-28

Chiefs vs Raiders 30-29

Are we an elite team with these extremely close games vs VERY BAD teams?

yes

RaidersOftheCellar 12-12-2022 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16662442)
Hypothetically speaking if theses seedings stay the same going to the last week and no chance to get the 1 seed do you lose on purpose to move down a spot if possible?

That would indeed suck. But I think the best case scenario is more likely, given the schedules.

KC 1 seed, Bills 2

Chiefs get the winner of Baltimore/Tennessee, while Buffalo/Miami/Bengals/Chargers all beat each other up for the right to come to KC for the AFC Championship.

Wilson8 12-12-2022 12:56 AM

Trey Hendrickson injured. He might still play, but maybe this will limit him some.

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The surging Bengals took a big hit today when their leading pass rusher, Trey Hendrickson, suffered a broken wrist during today’s win over the Browns, according to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network. Despite the injury, Hendrickson finished the game, ensuring a win for the Bengals.

Hendrickson currently leads the team in both sacks and quarterback hits with six and 22, respectively. Hendrickson combines with starting defensive end Sam Hubbard to form one the league’s more pressuring duos. Between the two, they total 11.5 sacks, 39 quarterback hits, and 16 tackles for loss. While Hendrickson’s pace of sack production has been slower than last season’s 14-sack performance, he is still a leader on Cincinnati’s defense and will be a tough player to replace.
https://www.profootballrumors.com/20...s-broken-wrist

Wilson8 12-12-2022 01:26 AM

Updated -
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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 16651449)
The remaining schedules are....

Bengals (9-4)
@ Buccaneers (6-7)
@ Patriots (6-6)
vs Bills (10-3)
vs. Ravens (9-4)

Bills (10-3)
vs Dolphins (8-5) Let's go Dolphins!!!
@ Bears (3-10)
@ Bengals (9-4)
vs Patriots (6-6)

Chiefs (10-3)
@ Texans (1-11-1)
vs Seahawks (7-6)
vs Broncos (3-10)
@ Raiders (5-8)


|Zach| 12-12-2022 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 16662548)
Updated -

Thanks for posting this. Bengals v Bills will be interesting to watch.

Pepe Silvia 12-12-2022 02:39 AM

Interesting to see who wins the Bengals/Bills match up.

Danguardace 12-12-2022 02:55 AM

That Colts game is going to come back to bite us isn't it

TEX 12-12-2022 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Danguardace (Post 16662565)
That Colts game is going to come back to bite us isn't it

We knew that when it happened.

TEX 12-12-2022 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 16662563)
Interesting to see who wins the Bengals/Bills match up.

Let's hope for a tie, and for us to win out.

smithandrew051 12-12-2022 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Danguardace (Post 16662565)
That Colts game is going to come back to bite us isn't it

Only if the Bills win out.

I don’t have much faith in the Dolphins with how Tua is playing and Tyreek hurt a bit.

It really comes down to Bills at Bengals in a few weeks. If the Bengals win, then we’re still in the driver’s seat as long as we take care of business against bad teams the rest of the way.

crispystl 12-12-2022 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16662442)
Hypothetically speaking if theses seedings stay the same going to the last week and no chance to get the 1 seed do you lose on purpose to move down a spot if possible?


I’d sit the starters for sure.


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TomBarndtsTwin 12-12-2022 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Danguardace (Post 16662565)
That Colts game is going to come back to bite us isn't it

It's possible.

Although Buffalo did NOT look good Sunday at home against the Jets.

Still think they've got another loss in them somewhere . . . . . .

Hammock Parties 12-12-2022 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 16662767)
It's possible.

Although Buffalo did NOT look good Sunday at home against the Jets.

Still think they've got another loss in them somewhere . . . . . .

miami's defense is trash and now hendrickson will likely miss the bills game

our last, best hope is joe burrow absolutely balling out

RunKC 12-12-2022 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16662781)
miami's defense is trash and now hendrickson will likely miss the bills game

our last, best hope is joe burrow absolutely balling out

Von Miller is out and the Bengals defense is still solid. They’re playing for a chance at the 1 seed.

They’ll beat Buffalo

MahomesMagic 12-12-2022 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16662781)
miami's defense is trash and now hendrickson will likely miss the bills game

our last, best hope is joe burrow absolutely balling out

Joe Burrow is just a tad better than Mike Glennon White.

Hammock Parties 12-12-2022 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16662788)
Von Miller is out and the Bengals defense is still solid. They’re playing for a chance at the 1 seed.

They’ll beat Buffalo

man, they have one average edge rusher if hendrickson is out

against josh? woof

RaidersOftheCellar 12-12-2022 09:47 AM

Imagine if the Bengals steal the 1 seed, after we spent all year focusing on the Bills. That would kinda suck.

The Tua/Miami sucking in cool weather thing seems like a legit thing. I don't trust them to accomplish anything.

If the Chiefs win out, I'm fairly confident the one seed is ours. I have a feeling the final game in Vegas is going to be dramatic.

Hammock Parties 12-12-2022 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16662808)
Imagine if the Bengals steal the 1 seed, after we spent all year focusing on the Bills. That would kinda suck.

The Tua/Miami sucking in cool weather thing seems like a legit thing. I don't trust them to accomplish anything.

If the Chiefs win out, I'm fairly confident the one seed is ours. I have a feeling the final game in Vegas is going to be dramatic.

the chiefs aren't ****ing losing

and neither are the ****ing bills

i have more hope of an upset in ****ing chicago at this point

Bearcat 12-12-2022 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16662808)
Imagine if the Bengals steal the 1 seed, after we spent all year focusing on the Bills. That would kinda suck.

The Tua/Miami sucking in cool weather thing seems like a legit thing. I don't trust them to accomplish anything.

If the Chiefs win out, I'm fairly confident the one seed is ours. I have a feeling the final game in Vegas is going to be dramatic.

We tend to fear the unknown around here while assuming the most obvious thing will always happen, and then are shocked when unthinkable good things happen, and I feel this will be yet another one of those times... like the Bills or Bengals get the 1 seed and we all freak out, then they end up playing each other so the Chiefs only have to play one of them.

If not of course the Chiefs recapturing the 1 seed at some point, perhaps in a ridiculous manner like the Bills beating the Dolphins and then losing in Chicago, or the Bengals losing to the Bucs.

We always look at our own warts and assume it'll happen again to the Chiefs (well they lost to the Colts!), then FitzMagic happens because other teams aren't infallible.

philfree 12-12-2022 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16662442)
Hypothetically speaking if theses seedings stay the same going to the last week and no chance to get the 1 seed do you lose on purpose to move down a spot if possible?

The 2 seed is still better than the 3 so I wouldn't want to give that up. There would still be a chance to have the AFCC at Arrowhead if the 1 seed gets knocked off. You never lose on purpose even if you rest some guys.

scho63 12-12-2022 10:07 AM

If we wind up having to go to Buffalo in bad weather, we will be in trouble.

And I ****ING HATE that Cincy Stadium. It's cursed.

TEX 12-12-2022 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16662832)
If we wind up having to go to Buffalo in bad weather, we will be in trouble.

And I ****ING HATE that Cincy Stadium. It's cursed.

KC will be in trouble when they face a great QB no matter where they play. But yes, I agree with your statement.

RunKC 12-12-2022 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16662848)
KC will be in trouble when they face a great QB no matter where they play. But yes, I agree with your statement.

Well we have an elite QB too. We were a Butker missed FG away from 27 points in their house. That’s not counting the Kelce fumble

We’ll score more points with Hardman and Toney back

Hammock Parties 12-12-2022 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16662832)
If we wind up having to go to Buffalo in bad weather, we will be in trouble.

And I ****ING HATE that Cincy Stadium. It's cursed.

the afc runs through buffalo

Eleazar 12-12-2022 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16662848)
KC will be in trouble when they face a great QB no matter where they play. But yes, I agree with your statement.

You don't need to be a great QB to post an adequate game against a team that doesn't have much of a pass rush. We end up gambling with pressure and it brings some big plays for the opponent, like we saw on Denver's long screen pass TD yesterday.

Having to rely on blitz packages to generate pressure in this way serves to make the opponents' point total outcomes more random, essentially, because big plays normally rely on somewhat random events. A heavy blitz meeting a screen play call, an outside run meets a missed tackle at the second level, etc.

Generally we will outscore most teams, but increased randomization of outcomes for the opposing offense raises the possibility that they will score above their mean. Our lack of anyone in the front who can create problems other than Jones creates this.

Bearcat 12-12-2022 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16662857)
Well we have an elite QB too. We were a Butker missed FG away from 27 points in their house. That’s not counting the Kelce fumble

Yeah, the winner of those games will likely have to score 30+ just like most big playoff games in the past decade. Luckily the Chiefs don't listen to those who want to run the ball 30 times in those types of games (yesterday would have been nice though!) and take the game back to the 90s.

That alone doesn't make your defense shitty, it just means you're playing against elite offenses that tend to score at will, so you have to do the same.

Wilson8 12-12-2022 10:55 AM

Not good for Miami -

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On Saturday night, the Dolphins face the Bills in Buffalo. At least one forecast calls for 4-7 inches of snow that day. Patrick Hammer of WGRZ-TV tweeted earlier this morning that “ingredients are coming together for lake effect snows” in the coming weekend. “Orchard Park and the Southtowns could be the target zone.”
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ght-snow-game/

Eleazar 12-12-2022 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 16662934)

Raises the possibility they'll be playing in a dome somewhere. Lions are on the road again this weekend.

Mecca 12-12-2022 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 16662934)

It's not good for Buffalo either, they're built to not play in that...

tredadda 12-12-2022 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16662938)
It's not good for Buffalo either, they're built to not play in that...

Yeah, but Miami thrives on the backs of Waddle and Hill. If the field is poor that neutralizes a lot of that speed. Not sure Miami can win a power game against Buffalo.

Hammock Parties 12-12-2022 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16662938)
It's not good for Buffalo either, they're built to not play in that...

the team with a running QB and a defense has a huge advantage in this weather

miami's getting ****ing crushed

TEX 12-12-2022 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16662862)
You don't need to be a great QB to post an adequate game against a team that doesn't have much of a pass rush. We end up gambling with pressure and it brings some big plays for the opponent, like we saw on Denver's long screen pass TD yesterday.

Having to rely on blitz packages to generate pressure in this way serves to make the opponents' point total outcomes more random, essentially, because big plays normally rely on somewhat random events. A heavy blitz meeting a screen play call, an outside run meets a missed tackle at the second level, etc.

Generally we will outscore most teams, but increased randomization of outcomes for the opposing offense raises the possibility that they will score above their mean. Our lack of anyone in the front who can create problems other than Jones creates this.

We are saying the same thing... My statement was meant to keep things simple. The great QB will beat the blitz, where an average QB wont. The Great QB will score when we're struggling offensively, as we tend to do from time to time (mostly due to bad play calling and having turnstile Tackles).

dirk digler 12-12-2022 11:05 AM

boy the Fins are soft

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Miami had heaters near their bench inside the dome at SoFi Stadium in Inglewood, Calif., with temperatures outside hovering around 55 degrees. Next Saturday night, when the Dolphins travel to Orchard Park, N.Y. to play the Buffalo Bills, early weather reports call for snow and temperatures in the 20s.

TEX 12-12-2022 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16662857)
Well we have an elite QB too. We were a Butker missed FG away from 27 points in their house. That’s not counting the Kelce fumble

We’ll score more points with Hardman and Toney back

Oh, I think we will too with Hardman back (I'm not counting on Toney, but if / when he can play, he will help matters).

The Bengals messed up scoring opportunities also. The biggest difference in the game was in the trenches. They CAN get pressure with their front 4 and we cant. Their OL can stop our pass rush, and ours cant stop theirs, in particular our Tackles. Unless we improve the pass rush with the down 4, and get better play from BOTH our Offensive Tackles, we'll have a hard time with The Natti, no matter where we play them.

Eleazar 12-12-2022 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16662953)
We are saying the same thing... My statement was meant to keep things simple. The great QB will beat the blitz, where an average QB wont. The Great QB will score when we're struggling offensively, as we tend to do from time to time (mostly due to bad play calling and having turnstile Tackles).

Sorry, I guess I misread the bent of that post.

Bearcat 12-12-2022 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16662959)
boy the Fins are soft

I've always thought the warm weather team thing was strange, because it's not like they're all from Miami or have even played there long.. just like players in Buffalo or wherever may not actually live in Buffalo and don't necessarily play in far more frigid games per year.

Yet, I was in SoCal for all of a month and the 60⁰ walks to the gym have started feeling colder than 60⁰ has ever felt, after just a few weeks of it being around 70-72 almost 24/7. LMAO

Granted, if they think 55⁰ sucks in pads and while constantly moving around... seems extreme. They should have used it as a chance to acclimate a bit before going to Buffalo.

MahomesMagic 12-12-2022 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16662970)
Oh, I think we will too with Hardman back (I'm not counting on Toney, but if / when he can play, he will help matters).

The Bengals messed up scoring opportunities also. The biggest difference in the game was in the trenches. They CAN get pressure with their front 4 and we cant. Their OL can stop our pass rush, and ours cant stop theirs, in particular our Tackles. Unless we improve the pass rush with the down 4, and get better play from BOTH our Offensive Tackles, we'll have a hard time with The Natti, no matter where we play them.


The silver lining in the last Cincinnati game is our DL can only play better because they were as bad as you can be.

ThyKingdomCome15 12-12-2022 11:23 AM

Buffalo is losing this week.

Hammock Parties 12-12-2022 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16647719)
#1 seed chance drops from 56% to 33%.

#2 seed 41%

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/st...l/playoff-odds

Dropped again.

Bills 50.6%

Chiefs 34.7%

:deevee:

MahomesMagic 12-12-2022 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16663012)
Dropped again.

Bills 50.6%

Chiefs 34.7%

:deevee:

Vegas lines have Buffalo slightly ahead of KC to win AFC.

New World Order 12-12-2022 11:35 AM

Buffalo can't beat us twice at Arrowhead

Hammock Parties 12-12-2022 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16663026)
Buffalo can't beat us twice at Arrowhead

Well, good thing they are the one seed...

Mecca 12-12-2022 11:51 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFL</a> claims to care about player safety yet does not throw a flag on this play. <a href="https://t.co/GJhrVzp8Sh">pic.twitter.com/GJhrVzp8Sh</a></p>&mdash; Michael Nania (@Michael_Nania) <a href="https://twitter.com/Michael_Nania/status/1602309439629017088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Garret Wilson said the ref told him this ain't Ohio State no more...

PHOG 12-12-2022 01:16 PM

More evidence the refs need to be fined for this crap.


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