Also he is likely 0-1.5 because even if he didn't do anything wrong he is an absolute dipshit for being out at the clubs at 1am given what he's up against

Not with the Chiefs he won't. The Chiefs will be more than happy to keep him around on a rookie contract, especially one of a second round pick.

But no way he gets an extension and a big raise from the Chiefs on a second deal. Even with the 'assault' being a big nothing burger. His character has been revealed from the street racing incident.

Young men do dumb shit. I know I did when I was in my early 20's. But if I was ever dumb to cause a big wreck where people 'might' have been seriously injured (thankfully they weren't) I would have at least stuck around to make sure everyone was okay before I ran off like a coward.

J/K. I wouldn't have left at all. Maybe that gets me in more trouble legally, but it's still the right thing to do as a human being who should have empathy and compassion for other people. Even when you **** up royally.

You own it and take your lumps. Whatever that may be.

It's not about what I think, it's a simple fact.

Hey gais, Kareem Hunt, Rashee Rice, and Travis Kelce are all the same.

I mean, it's the whole reason the George Brett statue exists, right?

So a verdict has been handed down in Rice's case? I didn't know the judicial system has an express lane.

Has Travis Kelce been caught on camera assaulting someone, performing a felony offense, or even put in handcuffs?

Travis kelces worst offense was smoking a little weed. Nobody got hurt. And there wasnt anything remotely close to a second offense after he learned his lesson.

I've read some inane arguments on this board before, but "Rashee Rice isn't doing anything Travis Kelce hasn't done" is definitely up there.

So outside of the white knighting. Has it been confirmed he didn't hit the reporter and he's free and clear or are we just having our normal little dick contest in here?

Money talks.. He gets paid and there’s no assault conviction.. Rice is still an idiot though..

Is Kelce already guilty of what Rice is accused of? No.

Has Rice been convicted or anything? Also no.

Two witnesses have said it was a verbal altercation. The police report says the photographer claims he was lured back to the venue via Instagram DMs and punched in the face when he got there. That's the only new "news" from today.

Gotcha, so Travis has never had any legal issues that I am aware of, but he's on the same dipshittery level (according to you) as someone whom is under investigation for a felony car accident and someone who has kicked a woman repeatedly on camera. According to your criteria, 95% of Americans are on the same dipshittery level as Rashee Rice.

This never happens if Rashee isn't an idiot with his car. I believe that.

God damn. You're only here to argue, ain't ya

FYP

Rice will likely end up being the far bigger dipshit, but right now it remains to be seen.

Let's not forget that without Jason's pleading with the Cincinnati head coach, there's a decent chance Travis never plays in the NFL at all.

Hunt lightly tapped that dummy with his foot. Guilty? Yes. Of kicking her? Hell no. Lol

It's a message board and he offered a dumbass take about one of our favorite players. What else is one to do here?

Again, it was a simple statement of fact.

I've got to give it to a select number of mental gymnasts around here. After pages of grueling posts contorting their brains into pretzels in the Rashee 1.0 and Rashee 2.0 threads, they continue their cranial aerobics in this thread unabated. Persistence and determination undeterred even by astronomical odds. Inspiring stuff, and gold medal worthy. 🥇

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"None of those guys on the freeway even look like Rashee...if you squint just like this!" 🙈

"Oh come on! Rashee's neck tattoo is far more distinguished than this random ass poser's. Not even close!"

"But but but...Some rando Instagram post says Rice wasn't even in the state!"

"See! I told you it was typical paparazzo hi jinx. Rashee tried his best avoiding a confrontation by very reasonably luring him back into his clutches under false pretenses! The photographer obliged, so of course he had to knock his lights out!"

"What I wanna know is was this guy's jaw even fully broken?!"


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He already is. It's not "likely."

Regardless of what you think about hunts actions he's a dipshit because he got into a drunk fight again a few months later

Do not mistake immaturity with what these two have done. It's not even in the same ballpark

It's still just "likely" because he's been given no verdict, and we don't don't even know that he was in Texas the night of the photographer incident.

Hunt's dumbest move after the hotel incident was lying about it, because what he actually did was almost nothing.

Technically, he made it a mere 37 days between incidents. 🤣

Dude is addicted to the action…and that’s a problem for his longevity in the NFL. What a ****ing moron.

For the first time, doubt has started to creep into my mind that Rice is playing for this team next season.

Hope I'm wrong, but luring a photographer (if true) is extremely concerning. That's some Antonio Brown level crazy.

This might be the wildest trajectory I can remember for a 1st/2nd rd Chiefs draft pick. right after the SB, Rice was being hailed as the future of the Chiefs offense, the guy that was going to carry the team forward for the next ten years while amassing a HOF career. A few months later, he probably won't get extended.



just crazy.



Just out of curiosity, did we have any idea that Rice was this much of a problem child before drafting him? Were there actual signs while he was in college that he had these . . . tendencies? Or was this all just completely out of left field?

RASHEE RICE DID NOTHING WRONG*!

*since his car crash

Hunts dumbest move was being on the verge of indefinite suspension and going to a lake party spot and getting drunk with the same group of friends only to get into a fight.

Yes that's fair to wait to see his minimal involvement in this second incident. There's plenty we know from the original incident that at bare minimum he was a dipshit even if we don't know the final verdict

I don't think fans got much wind of it, but a few different beat writers have said things like this, which implies that the concerns were definitely there if not particularly loud.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Looks like this is from Bob McGinn’s draft series. Sure this was decried as being wrong to report about a draft prospect at the time. It’s definitely a fine line to anonymously quote people making critical comments like this. But the objective is to inform, even if that means… <a href="https://t.co/rK8byzd7wj">https://t.co/rK8byzd7wj</a></p>&mdash; Dan Duggan (@DDuggan21) <a href="https://twitter.com/DDuggan21/status/1788222637468000459?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He goes on to say in the thread:

As far as drafting Rashee, if he never plays another down for the Chiefs it was a great pick. Can you imagine if we hadn't had him last year?

Well hell. I thought Veach was doing a pretty good job of vetting prospect's characters; better than Dorsey anyway. I guess maybe not?

Goddamn, any specifics at all would be nice. Not that Rice's naysayers are necessarily wrong, but teams don't remove players from their draft boards because of a hunch. There must be specific things he said or did to convince teams to disregard him...assuming the stories about his character concerns aren't fabricated.

This just keeps spiraling, please make it stop

Pretty amazing how character concerns come out about everybody else, even guys that don't really have any, yet there was this big secret with Rashee.

Has he been arrested? No document incidents to point to?

Then nobody can say they saw this coming.

Zay Jones and agent with the biggest shit eating grins of anybody right now.

“Before we consider that particular $ number, do you happen to know what Rashee is getting into later tonight?”

No ragrets and its possible being a SB champ might negatively impact someone with existing red flags in their first offseason

Eh, maybe those issues are the reason we were able to get him at 55. Like wazu said, it's hard to imagine we could have won the SB without him last year, so it's still not a bust even if he never plays for us again (and to be clear, I hope this all amounts to nothing and he's here for years).

It's because there's nothing. If there was even a single incident to point to, we would've heard about it.

I'm sure somebody probably peeped something like "he hangs with the wrong crowd". But how many guys like DeSean Jackson had similar things said about them yet they had a long career with little to no issues.

Yea, that's the narrative a lot of people are going with.

Doesn't add up either. Even those of us that loved Rice as a prospect didn't think he was some 1st round talent or anything crazy. He went exactly where he should've went based on the tape, testing, etc.

Which is just further proof that whatever character concerns there were, they were minor at the time.

Still waiting for George Pickens' "character issues" to be a problem for Pittsburgh.

His character concerns are just different, and they've absolutely popped up at times.

Eh, maybe. Hell, I'm not down on Rice after his performance last season. Not yet, anyway. Just scratching my head over how all of this blew up in our faces apparently without any warning.

He's toiling away in relative obscurity, so he can get away with more. Nobody cares what the Steelers are up to.

Lay low, not lay others low. Was hearing a concern in his draft profile?

is Antonio Brown the king of "crazy shit" for a receiver?

Like, luring a photographer to a club so you can punch him sounds crazy, until you see AB chucking couches out of a high rise and almost killing children. Or like, freezing his feet. Or like, stripping and running off the field in the middle of a play.

There have been worse, Rae Carruth for example, which I was wildly shocked to see is OUT of jail now despite straight up murdering a pregnant woman. But for sheer volume of crazy I'm not sure anyone beats AB

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Marvin Harrison Sr. is lucky there weren't smartphones everywhere back when he was playing.

I think this is by design, both for Dorsey and now Veach (and especially the common denominator: Andy Reid). When you can acquire a guy at a reduced premium, a roll of the dice is usually worth it. We’re not likely talking about murderers or serial rapists, after all. Especially now that we draft literally at the very last spot year in and year out. Pull the trigger (metaphorically, of course 😂 ), try to talk some sense into them, and cross your championship ring-laden fingers.

Some guys just end up shitting their own beds and flaming out. Nevertheless, I don’t hesitate to say keep ****ing doing it. Seriously. We’re only finding out about the ****ups, and clearly our on the field results are pristine. For every Rashee, there are untold numbers of guys that defy the reputation and keep their noses clean. As fans, it would be naive to think we are privy to trade secrets like character concerns on each and every prospect. Some, sure. But there are a lot more that never see the light of day.

I still am fine with this. Rashee is embarrassing the team and is making himself less and less likely to be available. But seems like generally a hard worker and good teammate on the field. I will take that over Pickens being extremely selfish on the field.

Didn't he shoot someone with a specialized 50 caliber handgun?

Burress shot himself at the club

Low volume but got locked up for 2 years

It was never proven, of course. Sorry, I cannot yet be trusted to post real links.

bleacherreport.com/articles/114971-marvin-harrison-the-nfls-quiet-bad-boy-wide-receiver

He was a suspect in the shooting, yes. His gun was the one that shot the dude, who lived through the initial shooting. It was the second shooting about a year after that one that killed the guy. I remember Harrison being a suspect in the death as well.

So I'm guessing what happened is the guy took photos of Rice (who absolutely should not be at clubs at 1am right now) at the club, and posted them on IG. Rice got pissed and messaged the guy pretending he wanted to hire the guy to take some photos or something. Then something happened that was probably a punch.

Why not just punch the guy in the stomach?

Why not grab the weed if you're going to flee the scene of an accident

He got 18 years for conspiracy to murder his girlfriend who refused to get an abortion but he didn't pull the trigger himself from what i gather.

What's this about luring the photographer to the club? ...shit keeps getting crazier.

It wasn't Rashee's fault!

It was just a wild Monday night at the club, that's all.

Boys will be boys!

Lawrence Tynes punched a guy in a bar while they were in training camp in River Falls. Nobody gave a shit because he's a kicker. And also because he wasn't accused of crashing a Lambo, Death Race 2000 style a week earlier.

Yeah, it's alarming that a guy who should be flying under the radar after the road race would be stupid enough to get mixed up in something else so soon.

That's Ja Morant level idiocy if true.

The photographer could be someone the Bengals planted at the club to take a punch from Rice.

He called the reporter/photograher back just to give him shit and punch him? WTF dude. :shake:

So some Chiefs fans want to bring up George Pickens because Rice has done knucklehead stuff.

Pickens was the 52nd pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.

Chiefs draft picks were Trent McDuffie at 21, George Karlaftis at 30 and Skyy Moore at 54.

Chiefs 2022 NFL Draft has been followed by back to back Super Bowl wins and may be the best draft for any team since the draft was reduced to seven rounds.

Chiefs fans that like Pickens so much, should invite him over and introduce him to sister, and not look stupid complaining about the 2022 Draft.

Why does Skyy Moore have to be a model citizen and Rice a colossal **** up?

Right?

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/...18527f4420d5f0

Pickens received some backlash for lack of hustle on the field at certain points in the season. He's also been met with some critical comments from head coach Mike Tomlin on how he handled the matter in front of the media when he was asked about that very subject.

"I would like him to be more professional in terms of addressing some of his shortcomings with you guys in order to further add fluidity to the process," Tomlin said that week.

"He's not helping himself, he's not helping the process in the manner in which he has dealt with you guys. But the manner in which he deals with you guys is not necessarily the manner in which he deals with us or himself regarding acknowledging where he is or where he needs to go.

While Pickens seems to have fixed that part, crossing the century mark in receiving yards in two of his past three games, he's been racking up the fines all season long.

According to a report from Jonathan Jones of CBS, Pickens has been fined at least $166k by the NFL and Steelers on top of a total of $33,000 in fines that are publicly viewable on the NFL's gameday accountability page.

That is a significant number. In fact, it's more than 13 percent of his salary

I'd take lack of hustle over Skyy's issues of "not being able to play the game of football"

If you don't want to get sucker punched, what are you doing hanging out in a club after 1 am?

Nothing good ever happens after 1 am in a club.

In hindsight, I'd take an open roster spot over Skyy...

I get what you're saying. And hell, those of us old enough to remember, there was probably more bar fighting and such going on back in the '70s and '80s than was completely ignored at the time.


But 'luring' a person to your location so you can beat the snot out of him can't be excused as just "boys will be boys," or "heat of the moment," or other inane immature behavior. It's borderline mental illness, imo. I'm not a psychiatrist so I don't know if it's appropriately labeled as sociopathic or what, but it's premeditated and it's dangerous.

IF, and it's still up in the air as far as I know, but "IF" Rice really did that, it should be pretty concerning for Andy and Veach, because that can lead to some pretty dark shit.


But as I said earlier, I'm still hoping that there's more to the story, or that the story is false. I'd just rather not believe that one of our players could behave like that kind of coward.

I sure as hell ain't defending Rice. "Double R" might as well stand for RECIDIVIST REERUN, as far as I'm concerned. I just don't fault the Chiefs for rolling the dice. Sure, they have a track record of taking a chance on questionable dudes. Pouncing on the chance to get a discounted gem is a sound business model. Usually they work out. Sometimes they don't. Shit happens.

Meanwhile, our trophy case...
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Yeah, I've always been on Andy's side about rolling the dice; it just makes sense, and hell, it's worked out pretty well for the Chiefs (for the most part). Just voicing some concern about this player and these incidents in particular.

So what are the cap implications if Rice is in lock up?

Rae Carruth type stuff maybe. I am not saying he is taking out a hit on anyone, but if you engage in a possible criminal conspiracy to assault someone, that's probably the road you are on. Again, I am not saying he is a killer, but it's not a big leap to think his associates could go from luring someone for a beating to suggesting they lure someone to kill them.

In retrospect I'm really glad Rice didn't catch the Super Bowl-winning TD and get to go on Kimmel and all that. It would have created even more of a monster. Dude needs to learn some humility fast.

So I’m presuming this thread devolved in to a ****fest like the last one.

Are that last 300 posts worth reading?

New slogan for the offseason:

FREE RASHEE! FREE RASHEE! FREE RASHEE!

Now some in the thread are comparing Rae Carruth to Rashee Rice