Wentz is the best backup QB in the league. He's better than probably 10 starters in the league. He performs at a high level against Texans, he'll have a starting job next year. He's going to be motivated.

The fly in the ointment this year that's different from previous years is 3 games in 10 days on a bum ankle. Doesn't matte show tough he is or his pain tolerance. Thats a tough go when fully healthy.

The goal we all share is wanting a healthy Mahomes doing Mahomes stuff in the playoffs. If that happens, he will being home the 3peat.

Wentz is not the best backup in the league. We don't know what he is until he takes a snap.

It doesn't matter though, Mahomes is playing.

I'm not too familiar w all the backups in the NFL but Wentz is definitely up there. Like Mahomes said, he has won plenty of football games in this league. Reid has confidence in him and knows him from Philly.

Also, They announced Mahomes is playing?

We are starting to see some people saying Carson Wentz is/will be better than Patrick Mahomes. I think it’s ridiculous, but there are people that feel that way. I was wondering if anyone here would choose Wentz over Mahomes. So the choice is simple: who would you rather have as QB for the rest of the season? Wentz Or Mahomes?

LMAO

I know you're scared but don't be. He's gonna play, they're gonna win, and he's going to be fine.

Wentz has massive problems with dealing with pass rush, he holds the ball far too long. Its kind of the worst case scenario with him lining up behind center with our current problems.

Huh? Every talking head and guys stuck in the film room with no lives says so. Just because he hasnt thrown a ball in a live game doesn't mitigate he has the most talent for a backup QB in the league.

I agree, its a moot point. We all on here can read the tea leaves going out of Arrowhead, he's playing.

Scared? The **** you talking about. Im not the one playing and I have full confidence in Reid making the right decision in regards to who plays QB on Saturday as I said. Either way I'm fine w it.

You are the one so adamant about the decision, not me

Sure. LMAO

Theres a reason he is our backup. No team would guarantee him a starting job. If you have to be a backup, be Mahomes backup.

Same ones that say the NFL fix is in and the refs are in the fold too.

Reid started coaching the Chiefs in 2013. Eagles drafted Wentz in 2016.

I don’t think that shared path means much.

Yes yes he is.

Wentz would be fine. Reid is insanely good at putting together first half scripts around our backup QBs weakness. He did it for years with Chase Daniel and henne. Love the hell out of henne for what he meant to this franchise but wentz is way better. I think the formula wears off after a half and even into the second game. But I feel like Andy could get the job done

Of course he’s nowhere near Mahomes level. But I think he gives us a decent shot to win as a backup. No matter… Mahomes is probably gonna play and of course when he’s on the field our odds shoot way up

Right, my bad

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">������������: The expectation is that Patrick Mahomes (ankle) is going to try and give it a go Saturday vs the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a>, per <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JamesPalmerTV</a> <br><br>He’s not 100% healthy, but will try to push through it. <a href="https://t.co/wbs0Akk5Hu">pic.twitter.com/wbs0Akk5Hu</a></p>&mdash; JPAFootball (@jasrifootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/jasrifootball/status/1869423624756867116?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wentz vs the Texans

Mahomes in the Tiny Tim game vs the Steelers on X-Mas Day

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The expectation is that Patrick Mahomes (ankle) is going to try and give it a go Saturday. Will he be 100%? obviously not. But the belief right now, and we&#39;ll see how the rest of the week plays out, is that he&#39;s going to play vs the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#texans</a>.</p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1869422879571648835?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wentz is probably one of the better back-up QB’s in the league… but it doesn’t matter if Mahomes is good to go.

You don't have to look at X-rays or physically examine someone to know a treatment method for an injury that's constantly reoccurring.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> OC Matt Nagy says that all things considered, Mahomes did well in practice.</p>&mdash; Sports Radio 810 WHB (@SportsRadio810) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsRadio810/status/1869443624288837737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Would prefer this

Could you get him to do a better job on this with Mahomes this year please?

Not limping.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs Patrick Mahomes in warmups during our brief look at practice Wednesday. <a href="https://t.co/GdmHiVtE1s">pic.twitter.com/GdmHiVtE1s</a></p>&mdash; Jesse Newell (@jessenewell) <a href="https://twitter.com/jessenewell/status/1869464208817242124?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The real test will be sudden movements. He can't be a sitting duck back there against this pass rush.

Although I am hopeful he will get the ball out of his hands quicker regardless due to this injury.

That dog will always want to hunt… He won’t let on it hurts in practice.. Be prepared for some limping in the game though… He really wants to win the next two and then take time off..

As he should.

Did everyone see Hollywood hopping on one leg in the second video?!?

I knew it, they brought him back too soon and now his leg is toast.

James Palmer is going to be on 96.5 at 4:15 PM with CDot.

No. He’s more likely to get re-injured with a shorter rest time. Texans are number two in sacks for the season: another key factor. If you think that Carson can beat the Texans at Arrowhead (extra advantage), then you’re providing Patrick extra healing time where he can play the next two games. Winning those next two games guarantees the first round bye in the playoffs. There’s nothing shortsighted about any of that. (Best case scenario, however unlikely: Bills lose another game.)

This is his schtick, read the thread. Comes in here relays no facts and has black and white opinions, calls everyone a pussy for wanting to protect the franchise. It’s like, what is seeing a problem not black and white and using critical thinking? Huh crazy right?

Be best to just ignore.

Side from that…

If Andy and Pat think he can play and he’s cleared and the risk of further injury is low he is our best chance and play him. Let’s just hope somehow the Bills lose to Pats with a Chiefs W and Pat and the team can take the rest of the year off until the divisional.

Spot on. If the risk is low.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Once again, Patrick Mahomes (right ankle) &amp; Marquise Brown (left shoulder) were full participants. <a href="https://t.co/hL6R2k4vXh">https://t.co/hL6R2k4vXh</a></p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1869488052604973219?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'd completely forgotten about the Connor injury

Hope dude is okay in the short and long term, that looked like a nasty concussion

This just feels like a bad idea.

Idk, weird gut feeling.

You mean starting Wentz, right?

As far as I can recall.......checks notes.......yea, yup........ Patrick Mahomes is undefeated while playing with a high ankle sprain in his career.

Or he can play right now, win 2 games, and the whole team can rest for weeks, not days.

Yeah, sitting Patrick is absolutely shortsighted.

I've provided plenty of facts and evidence. Just because you either ignore them or simply can't understand them has nothing to do with me. That's your problem.

Pat is playing this weekend. I hope your fragile psyche can handle it.

That's always the amusing part of these threads, especially when people go against seriously obvious no-question-about-it shit like Mahomes playing this weekend... after a while of arguing I picture them on the couch stewing that coaches, medical professionals, Mahomes himself are all going against their wishes and expertise.

Palmer on 96.5:

"Obviously not 100 percent, but he looked pretty good. They’ve been really impressed. The term ‘being surprised’ by the way he looks with ankle injuries is something that’s not really happening to them anymore."

"He finds a way to get through these things. From what I was told, he’s going to give this thing a go."

"Gumby has been the term that’s been used to me, talking about Mahomes’ durability. When you talk to people in the building...the competitiveness is through the roof. You’re going to have to pry him off the field."

No you really haven’t like your last comment about “wentz not being the best back up in league.” Ok he’s not, then who is? It was just another comment to further your opinion just like everything in this thread is an opinion, outside of the actual sources from the team or others in the know.

All I have seen from you is:

“you guys are pussys, Pat is playing and should play so we can get the one seed nothing else matters, you have no proof he will get hurt, anyone else’s opinion is stupid and you’re all pussy’s”

Fact is there are multiple options here and multiple lines of thinking that aren’t wrong. No one’s fragile because they might not want to see the franchise (and he is the entire franchise) who IS ALREADY HURT go out against second best pass rush in the league and get knocked out for more games. Given the fact they turn around and play another good pass rushing team 4 days later at that. They could win and lose the next one because Pat is sitting, because I promise you if he aggravates it enough during this game they will not throw him out there 4 days later for optics reasons. That’s the league now a days if you haven’t noticed.

Everyone wants the Chiefs to get the 1 seed but most don’t want to do it at the expense of Pat. No one’s gonna know if he will further his injury or not but the risk is higher when he can’t play his normal game, another fact you ignore. My issue with your post is you just totally throw everything out the window for duuur one seed duuur. Yea we get it pops, we all want that but maybe just maybe two things can be true at once. The Chiefs need the one seed but need Pat more.

There’s no guarantee we win with Pat even playing and the Chiefs are playing through week 18 and in the wildcard round anyway. Your constant bleating about and chastising anyone talking other options makes you look like a fool.

Go Chiefs, if Pat plays god speed and I trust that is the right decision made by the right people. Doesn’t make it bad everyone’s butt hope might pucker ever snap though.

Then you have to read all of my posts. Try harder.

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Quick slants and crossers and screens. Quick pass game. Keep Mahomes on his feet at all costs and get out with the win.

And yeah, I sure look like a fool. I've gotten almost 100 likes in the last 3 days.

You’re right I read a lot and stopped because it was the same thing over and over. I challenge you to write a thoughtful reply to back up your claims instead of a crass meaningless comment or don’t at this point I’ve spent enough time on this.

Oh wow! Forget everything I said then, 100 likes is a lot. Not black and white thinking at all there!

I already have, several times. Read them or don't, I don't care.

Again, dozens of people agree with me and agree with the claims I've made. I'm not the issue here.

It is a lot. And in general it means that A LOT of people here agree with me and the evidence I've posted. That's generally an indication that the argument is solid.

Go quick tempo, spread formation and just keep attacking with quick passes.

The Chiefs can roll out line-ups that include Hollywood + Hopkins + Worthy + JuJu and Kelce/Gray.

Unstoppable.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">QB1 spread some Christmas cheer by giving gifts to the o-line �� <a href="https://t.co/xASg3iplnX">pic.twitter.com/xASg3iplnX</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1869517799368139189?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not one single photo of Patrick from practice this week on Chiefs.com LMAO

What are those compression leggings?? Going to have to look those up..

LMAO No joke, literally just did it.

They speed up recovery after physical activity… $800.. He’s trying to help them be at peak form.. :clap:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It sounded like the Browns defense had 3 goals for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> game. Hit Mahomes, Stop Kelce and Stop Worthy. The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> opponents are in 2 of the next 3 Hard Knocks. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/zds1tjEP9i">pic.twitter.com/zds1tjEP9i</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1869275451132457077?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Isn't his offense supposed to be based on the WCO? Shouldn't that offense be loaded with 3 step & 5 step dropbacks with timing passes?

Reid's offense seems to call for Mahomes to hold the ball a minimum of 3 seconds.

Mahomes is like a wounded animal when injured.

More dangerous than ever. Honestly, I hope this gets him out of his own head and he just starts slinging it.

I’ve actually thought the exact same thing. More focused.

This is a great question. I pretty much echo it.

Andy's version of the WCO seems to have incorporated a bunch of concepts from like an EP offense like Vermeil's.

I guess I’ll repeat what I posted previously: PMII is much more likely to get injured by playing on it sooner than later. Human biology. Texans also have a formidable pass rush with the second best number of sacks in the league. A healthy Wentz makes sense. And he will also benefit from the Chiefs’ defense getting back on track and the Texans’ offense not doing so well. One might also consider that the new configuration of the offensive line might get better with another game under its belt. And lastly, the Broncos & Steelers are currently better than the Texans. We do not want to see Carson forced to play either one of those teams due to another injury. And especially don’t want to see Carson starting in the playoffs. If Patrick gets injured on Saturday and he’s lost for the playoffs because he wasn’t healed enough to play: no 3 peat. You’re the one that’s being shortsighted.

He has a mild sprain. The risk of further injury is very low. If it wasn't, he wouldn't be a full participant in practice and they definitely wouldn't be considering letting him play in a game.

Their greatest chance to get the #1 seed is to win this weekend and Pat gives them the best chance to win. If they get the #1 seed, the whole team gets a couple weeks to rest and heal. 2 weeks is greater than 1 game. The whole team is greater than just Mahomes.

The goal of any NFL season is to maximize opportunities to win a championship. That's exactly what they should do and it appears that's exactly what they're going to do.

It's all just probabilities. And the probability of maximizing this opportunity is far greater if Patrick plays this weekend.

There's also no three-peat if Patrick gets hurt in wildcard game the team didn't need to play in the first place.

:rolleyes:

Ummm, not with some of the world’s biggest, fastest & strongest athletes trying to kill you. Much lower chance if they let Wentz clean up on Houston. Let a healthier PMII demolish the Steelers. Sit everyone vs da donks! LFG!!!

Okay so does anyone know if we should start Mahomes or Wentz this week?

Chris Oladokun.

And when Wentz lays an egg and they lose? Everybody thinks he's gonna come in and be the old Wentz. We don't have any real reason to believe that though other than hope. Most of his post injury career has been bad. The chances of winning with him vs winning with Mahomes just aren't worth the risk.

The chances of Pat getting injured go up with every game he plays. The goal now should be for him to play as few games as possible. The surest and most probable way to do that is to beat Houston and Pittsburgh and rest him against Denver, knowing they also have a bye.

In the end, this is all going to be moot. He's gonna play, they're going to win, and he's going to be fine.

From your keyboard to God’s eyes. We’ll see.

It's Mahomes man, and you know he wants that #1 seed so he can gear up for another Super Bowl run.

I don't know why necessarily but I am really confident in this team right now. Really confident.

if they were going to drop a game the last two weeks were the chance

i don't know if we run the table but we're not losing saturday

A Chiefs win on Saturday + a Buffalo loss on Sunday and the #1 seed would be clinched and Mahomes wouldn’t need to play vs Pittsburgh.

Bills/Patriots was flexed to the late afternoon time slot on Sunday… a close game is expected (?)

Vegas thinks otherwise at -14 (though I expected even higher).

I'm sure all the things have been posted a million times by now.... but, has anyone pointed out the amazingness that is wanting to sit out Mahomes because we're specifically afraid of all the sacks, while expecting Wentz wouldn't get murdered by that same defensive line we're so deathly afraid of AND oh yeah he can win the game, too?



Damn, my parents have never driven in another country and want to drive themselves around Italy for two weeks... they'll get killed by all the crazy drivers! Better plan: Let's have grandpa, who hasn't driven in 15 years and has lost a lot of reaction time drive them around... everyone will be safer that way!

Divisional game, Buffalo has lost to the Patriots in the recent past in their building when Mac Jones completed like one pass.

I see some of the knuckleheads are still cowering over a minor sprain that players play with all of the time. What a waste of emotional energy.

Gets him to lock in and he can't be lazy with his mechanics.

Not a good analogy for multiple reasons. Mahomes is less mobile and more likely to get hurt because he has an existing injury. Carson is healthy & fully mobile. He had to be helped off the field. Pretty simple.

It really is an incredible thought process some are using. And to further their irrational line of thought, if we lose Saturday with Wentz it’s all good because we’ll just automatically win the next two! ****ing morons.