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Chiefspants 06-19-2013 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 9763898)
I guess the guys on 610/810 were saying Wiggins is a terrible shooter and overall tearing him down (trolling essentially) while all the local and national media are praising him all around. Petro and Kietzman were the trolls.

Why do they try? You can't troll KU basketball.

Did they mean it or were they actually trolling?

Chiefs Pantalones 06-19-2013 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 9763904)
Did they mean it or were they actually trolling?

They would have to be trolling because the kid is a one of a kind talent. He's a freak. Nobody but them is saying he can't shoot.

Bambi 06-19-2013 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 9763898)
I guess the guys on 610/810 were saying Wiggins is a terrible shooter and overall tearing him down (trolling essentially) while all the local and national media are praising him all around. Petro and Kietzman were the trolls.

Why do they try? You can't troll KU basketball.

Imagine being K State. You "win" 3 titles and then are exposed in each sport in the most embarrassing, overrated fashion you could imagine.

I got a good laugh last week when Jack Harry was on the show and he said he'd favor MU by 13 over the Cats if they were to play this fall.

It's so hilarious.

Bambi 06-19-2013 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 9763911)
They would have to be trolling because the kid is a one of a kind talent. He's a freak. Nobody but them is saying he can't shoot.

He's the biggest recruit at KU since Wilt Chamberlain.

And Wilt Chamberlain is arguably the greatest basketball player of all time.

It's going to be one hell of a season.

RustShack 06-20-2013 12:28 AM

What's your opinion on Releford? I found this tweet very interesting...

@JonRothstein: Dustin Hogue will be Iowa State's most underrated newcomer. Could start at SF. Think a more physically developed Travis Releford.

Braincase 06-20-2013 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 9764099)
What's your opinion on Releford? I found this tweet very interesting...

@JonRothstein: Dustin Hogue will be Iowa State's most underrated newcomer. Could start at SF. Think a more physically developed Travis Releford.

MORE physically developed that T-Relly? I'm calling BS.

sedated 06-20-2013 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 9764099)
What's your opinion on Releford? I found this tweet very interesting...

@JonRothstein: Dustin Hogue will be Iowa State's most underrated newcomer. Could start at SF. Think a more physically developed Travis Releford.

Releford was a good athlete, not a freak, but could throw down some good dunks.

I love me some Releford. Great perimeter defender, could knock down a 3.

sedated 06-20-2013 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 9763898)
I guess the guys on 610/810 were saying Wiggins is a terrible shooter and overall tearing him down (trolling essentially) while all the local and national media are praising him all around. Petro and Kietzman were the trolls.

Why do they try? You can't troll KU basketball.

The best way to get ratings is to either cater to a fan-base or to troll it. Its best to just ignore them.

However, with the hype and expectations that have been built up for Wiggins, I’m starting to think he will be a disappointment in some fashion. That doesn’t mean he can’t/won’t be a top 3 all-time Jayhawk. If he goes off for 30 points, people will still point to him missing too many 3s or something.

RustShack 06-20-2013 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 9764262)
Releford was a good athlete, not a freak, but could throw down some good dunks.

I love me some Releford. Great perimeter defender, could knock down a 3.

Yeah that's basically how they describe Hogue... All though I'm not sure if he has the three ball(yet)... Really all I've heard is he's a great defender and can jump out of the gym.

Al Czervik 06-20-2013 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 9764549)
Yeah that's basically how they describe Hogue... All though I'm not sure if he has the three ball(yet)... Really all I've heard is he's a great defender and can jump out of the gym.

Here ya go....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Gregory

LOL

Buehler445 06-20-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 9764099)
What's your opinion on Releford? I found this tweet very interesting...

@JonRothstein: Dustin Hogue will be Iowa State's most underrated newcomer. Could start at SF. Think a more physically developed Travis Releford.

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 9764549)
Yeah that's basically how they describe Hogue... All though I'm not sure if he has the three ball(yet)... Really all I've heard is he's a great defender and can jump out of the gym.

The thing that sticks out about Releford is his commitment to the team concept.

If he's physically Releford, he'll be OK. Releford was a good athlete, but he wasn't anything.

The thing that made Releford an absolutely critical piece to a couple great teams was his commitment to the team concepts. He absolutely committed to his role as a stopper and was completely unselfish with the basketball. In 2013 he developed the ability to finish fast breaks and became pretty much the go to guy on fast breaks. But he was terribly unselfish. If he had a hole, he'd put up 30. If there was better play to be made, he gave it up and was happy scoring 4.

If you get a kid that will absolutely sell out on the defensive end like Releford did, and he has Releford's physical abilities, he could be scary.

But kids that operate like Releford don't come around much.

If he's roughly Releford's physical ability, he's probably top 1/3-1/4 of the players out there.

RustShack 06-20-2013 02:16 PM

Yeah he sounds like the unselfish defense first type of guy. Hopefully hes as underrated as this guy thinks!

Braincase 06-20-2013 02:56 PM

What was Releford's scoring %? Wasn't he the top scorer by % in D-1 or something ridiculous? I guess he had an aptitude for taking high percentage shots and canning the damned things.

RustShack 06-20-2013 07:19 PM

It's between Hogue or SDW to start at the three for us I'm pretty sure. Hogue is coming from Juco, and SDW was a top 125 recruit last year who redshirted because he only weighed like 170, but Fred said he still could have played a lot from just pure talent. He also broke the Capital City League record the other day by scoring 67 in a game... Michigan and Indiana wanted him to play PG, but we offered him SG.

RustShack 06-20-2013 07:25 PM

So Hogue would and probably will start because of his defense... And SDW might be our new Tyrus McGee, but a lot more well rounded overall offensively... But maybe not quite as autatic from three even though that is supposed to be his game.


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