All his legal troubles aside... Rashee Rice will be suspended a certain amount of games for violating the NFLs Conduct Policy while fleeing an accident scene where people were hurt and even taken to the hospital. It doesn't matter how much he denies any responsibility, he fleed from the scene which is considered a hit and run.

Of course. But the idea that lying is somehow going to make things worse is inserting morality into the legal process. By and large it doesn't. It technically could - it almost never does.

Making a statement and saying nothing are not mutually exclusive.

There are a shitload of toll roads in the Dallas area. Hard to avoid them. There’s a decent chance they went through toll road areas during their journey. Bottom line is that he needs to keep his mouth shut and avoid lying.

My bet would be that he fairly quickly called up his agent who got him in touch with a lawyer.

Sure. A statement that he has no comment and won’t be making any statements at this time would suffice. His lawyers won’t let him comment or say anything about this without knowing what evidence they’re dealing with.

Yeah - nobody's gonna like this one.

I had a buddy get hammered, drive home and put his car into the corner of someone's garage. Guy called me freaking out and asked what to do - I told him to get the **** out of there. And ideally you don't go home. Go sleep in a church somewhere if you have to. Oh, and don't ****ing call me for awhile...

Make 'em find you. Oh they're gonna and you're gonna end up paying a pretty nice little fine (he did). But man that's a LOT better than the alternative.

Now there's a set of circumstances whereby he messed up by fleeing. But in a whole bunch of them, getting out of dodge is the right answer.

Okay, I've been pondering this today.

At the end of the day, he was in a traffic accident. Traffic accidents are mundane. Does anything make this different that your normal fender bender?

Well, a bit. It sounds like some people were injured, so his insurance is going to get sued. He (or whoever) was driving like a dumba**, so he'll probably get a fine, maybe even get his license suspended.

The bigger immediate legal issue is leaving the scene of an injury accident. I'm not sure what level of crime that it, but I'm sure it's a crime. I'm not sure if people get jail sentences for doing that, but if they do, they're probably minor.

Will the NFL get involved? I'd be kind of surprised. This was a dumb thing, but it doesn't trigger any NFL marketing stuff like a crime against a woman or whatever. The NFL doesn't care if it doesn't affect marketing.

So from a legal standpoint, what's going to happen? My hunch is that he doesn't get to drive for a while and he faces some fines that won't affect him much. Maybe he'll get some community service or probation.

The long-term question is why he left and if there's any truth to the rumor that they left because of the presence of guns or drugs, or because he was drunk or drugged up. If that's true (and we have nothing right now to prove that), then it's probably too late for him to get caught and punished - this time. But the bigger deal to me is that those things would be a huge red flag to the Chiefs going forward, and it would make him a risky player that we can't rely on. He may not get a second contract offer, or it'll be a lot smaller. And if it's true (again, no proof), there's a risk that he'll get yanked off the field without warning during his current contract at some point by getting caught doing something really stupid and illegal.

I propose that his legal ramifications won't be large, but he's going to be in the doghouse for a long while after this, and he probably cost himself some second-contract money and opportunities.

I was thinking the same thing earlier. This might be incredibly positive for the Chiefs. ROFL

We've got to get another SB before Kelce retires.

We can regroup in November when Rice returns.

All in all, from what we know right now, I’d say he’s incredibly lucky that it doesn’t seem like anyone was badly hurt or killed. That is huge. What’s more, from what little information there is right now it seems like there may be evidentiary challenges with the investigation and ultimately any case should charges be laid. If charges end up being laid, evidentiary problems combined with no one left seriously injured may pave the way for a favourable resolution.

No real shrink would diagnose someone they never met with sociopathy based on one incident like this. It is completely unethical to do so, so you are either a terrible shrink or a liar. I put my money on liar.


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Offseason speculation planet, guess we have some of that drama. Unwanted but it is what it is.

I think there is a lot of truth in this, and I’m hopeful that this is an instance of a young person getting together with other young people to do stupid things, and who will get to learn a hard lesson the easy way without life altering consequences (as opposed to this being just a scum bag human being for whom this is a way of life)

Thank you for the level-headed response.

You can just say "he good" next time.