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ToxSocks 04-22-2020 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14923408)
At 32 or are you trading down?

I'm fine taking him at 32. I have no idea how teams think the board will shape up, but I imagine the run on RB's starts at the end of the 1st and goes through the middle of the 2nd.

And i do believe he'll be one of the top 2-3 backs taken. I really do believe that.

And i believe that he's the best fit for our team. He's a natural pass catcher, he's explosive in space, and his patience says to me that he'd be killer in a the screen game and a zone blocking scheme.

His weakness is his long speed. He'll get chased down on long running plays. And i heard that his pass blocking is weak. But i've never evaluated that.

Kiimo 04-22-2020 02:37 PM

Sorry I like Aiyuk more and am now going all in on him. He's so explosive and plays much bigger than his 5'11 with those crazy long arms


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o0-...ature=youtu.be


Also his vertical is over 40 inches. Put that together and he's catching shit way over DBs' heads

MahomesMagic 04-22-2020 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14923429)
Sorry I like Aiyuk more and am now going all in on him. He's so explosive and plays much bigger than his 5'11 with those crazy long arms


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o0-...ature=youtu.be


Also his vertical is over 40 inches. Put that together and he's catching shit way over DBs' heads

Aiyuk is very talented but I think he is slot only to start. I think Reid wants more versatility in a WR as he likes them to move around the field.

smithandrew051 04-22-2020 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14923429)
Sorry I like Aiyuk more and am now going all in on him. He's so explosive and plays much bigger than his 5'11 with those crazy long arms


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o0-...ature=youtu.be


Also his vertical is over 40 inches. Put that together and he's catching shit way over DBs' heads

Did you read the top comment on that video?

“Please don’t let KC get this guy. They already have a young track team.”

The rest of the league is terrified.

hawkchief 04-22-2020 02:46 PM

Would love to see us pick up Michael Pittman out of USC. Big WR stud and a great kid to be pair with Mahomes for many years!! He's a can't miss IMHO.

MahomesMagic 04-22-2020 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hawkchief (Post 14923447)
Would love to see us pick up Michael Pittman out of USC. Big WR stud and a great kid to be pair with Mahomes for many years!! He's a can't miss IMHO.

I'm down with Pittman. He has a Michael Thomas vibe going..

Imagine how easy it would be to get 1st downs with Pittman/Kelce and then Tyreek/Hardman doing stuff.

redshirt32 04-22-2020 02:48 PM

The top rated guard/center should be available at 32.
I think KC will grab a DB at 32, get em early as possible.
I prefer we get a crazed LB out of this draft/ OL help.

ThyKingdomCome15 04-22-2020 02:50 PM

Grant Delpit, S, LSU

Kiimo 04-22-2020 02:52 PM

I've soured on Delpit

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Like Henderson, Delpit was a a four-star recruit, and he moved into the lineup as a freshman at a safety position left vacant by the departure of Jamal Adams. The Jets used the sixth pick of the 2017 draft on Adams (5-11 ½, 213, 4.45), and he’s already made the Pro Bowl twice as a wicked force in and around the line of scrimmage.

“But Delpit is a totally different player than Jamal Adams,” one executive said. “Adams was an excellent box guy but couldn’t cover. He was physical. This guy can cover but he has a tackling problem.”

Last season, Delpit won the Jim Thorpe Award as the nation’s top defensive back. An AFC personnel man remains mystified that he did.

“Jim Thorpe rolled over in his grave in Pennsylvania when Delpit won that award,” the scout said. “Forty-four missed tackles in three years. The name of the position comes because you’re the safety net. You’re the one that has to save the touchdown … and they pump him up in Baton Rouge. They sing his praise. He’s kind of like a movie star, he’s got such a presence. He’s in for a rude awakening.”

How could a player with his size (6-2 ½, 213) and reputation manage to miss that many tackles?

“He’s not an athlete so he can’t break down,” an executive said. “That’s why he misses. It’s not because he’s so aggressive. I’m sure his coaches get on him. He just can’t do it. I know he’s got the hype, I know he’s at LSU. It’s a confusing one for me. I haven’t seen a guy miss so many tackles as this guy.”

Two personnel people pointed out that Delpit did tackle better in 2018 than in 2019. “I think too many people were in his ear,” said an AFC personnel man. “He missed tackles a bunch. He’ll be a good player because he’s smart, tough. But I wouldn’t take him in the first (round) and he’s not going in the first, either.”

After calling Delpit “the most overrated guy in the draft,” an executive paused to reconsider and then said, “Yeah, OK. I don’t think he’ll be a bust. I just don’t think he’s special.”

DJ's left nut 04-22-2020 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14922970)
Stop looking at one persons rankings to base your opinion.

Reagor would be a fantastic pick at 32.

I like Reagor a lot.

He might be my 5th favorite WR in the draft. Super explosive after the catch and could so some really good stuff as the X here.

Mecca 04-22-2020 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14923459)
I've soured on Delpit

I want you to remember something, a lot of these scouts and personnel people are older, some of them don't understand how much the game has changed.....yea safeties tackle worse know why? They're much more like corners today than they use to be...

When I read some of these things I really feel like a lot of people still employed by teams think that we still play in the days of 260lb LB's that mauled OL and safeties that came up and played like LB's and pass coverage wasn't that important.

RunKC 04-22-2020 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14922816)
Here's the DB from Bob McGinn. It doesn't sound great for Delpit.


Delpit is a bit of a risk but the upside with him being able to cover TE’s is very valuable. That’s hard to find.

ToxSocks 04-22-2020 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14923459)
I've soured on Delpit

I've never been on the Delpit train. Everything i've heard about the guy is that he misses way too many tackles for a safety and has a hard time breaking down in the box or in the open field to bring down the ball carrier.

A guy who's great in coverage but isn't physical enough to tackle at the S position gives me nightmares of guys like Eric Murray. Soft. Soft as a S? Not my cup of tea.

Mecca 04-22-2020 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14923477)
I've never been on the Delpit train. Everything i've heard about the guy is that he misses way too many tackles for a safety and has a hard time breaking down in the box or in the open field to bring down the ball carrier.

A guy who's great in coverage but isn't physical enough to tackle at the S position gives me nightmares of guys like Eric Murray. Soft. Soft as a S? Not my cup of tea.

Yet he was a fine tackler in 18 and tackled fine in their championship run in 19 after his ankle injury got better.

Shields68 04-22-2020 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14923273)
pretty small sample size, wouldn't you say?


And as SB champions returning 20/22 starters, perhaps a different situation?

Having a first round pick is a different situation for him as well.


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