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Originally Posted by Johnny8 (Post 17360436)

. We know what’s coming - a HOF QB.

He's much more than that.

it's WHY he's a HOF QB only seven years in.

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Originally Posted by Johnny8 (Post 17360436)

“You have no clue what’s coming.” Jesus we have some dramatics in the chat. Take a beat. We know what’s coming - a HOF QB.

With that said, 34-20 ravens.

You're crazy. Banged up corner, young ass defensive coordinator that was 19 when Spagnola thrashed Brady, and a defense that gives up over four yards a carry is vulnerable. And if it's close I don't like Lamar holding up.

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Originally Posted by Johnny8 (Post 17360439)

It’s called moving the goal posts - it seems to happen a lot on this chat.

We're not moving the goal post... My God, the Texans were starting Steven Nelson and Denzel Perryman...

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Originally Posted by PurpleOrange (Post 17360127)

KC fans say Lamar can't handle the Blitz

I say here's what he did against the Blitz on Saturday

KC fans say yeah but that doesn't count because Houston isn't good.

So what else can I say? I guess we will see on Sunday.

There's a reason KC leads the league in unblocked pressures. It's because Spags is one of the most creative and effective blitzers in the game. The Texans are not a blitzing team (and Lamar still had to "adjust" before he was able to move the ball against it).

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs defense led the league in unblocked pressures during the regular season (73).<br><br>The Chiefs generated 7 unblocked pressures in Week 14 against the Bills, tied for the unit's most in a game this season.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BUFvsKC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BUFvsKC</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/2r6vVbV4jK">pic.twitter.com/2r6vVbV4jK</a></p>— Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) <a href="https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1747715226127245350?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17360453)

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Couple notes from our media look: I did not see Derrick Nnadi (tricep) or Willie Gay Jr. (neck). <br><br>I did see WRs Justyn Ross and Kadarius Toney, as well as LT Wanya Morris. <a href="https://t.co/2Qt2o2lDUB">https://t.co/2Qt2o2lDUB</a></p>— Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1750238319525392512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17359683)

Respectfully, the Ravens are in a different class than those franchises.

The Ravens have won more Super Bowls in their 28-year history than the Titans, Bills, Bengals, and Eagles have combined in their entire histories. And for as touted as San Francisco is as a franchise, they haven't won a title since the Ravens have existed, and the Ravens are 6-2 against them all time. The Ravens have a pedigree that those other franchises don't.

As to this season, the 2023 Ravens team aren't just a normal number one seed; by advanced metrics, they're historically great. Weighted DVOA has them as the best team ever tracked (the forum won't let me embed a link since I'm new, but here's the link: twitter.com/ASchatzNFL/status/1749454434705211633). The 2019 Chiefs are also on that list, and the 2020 Chiefs beat another team on that list, so anyone doubting the Chiefs is a fool. But again, the idea that the Ravens are no different than the Titans or Bengals is insulting.

As a Ravens fan, I was rooting for the Chiefs to beat the Bills last week. Not because I think the Chiefs are an easier matchup; to the contrary, the Chiefs are the boogeyman even in a "down" year. The reason why I wanted the Chiefs is because if this Ravens team wants to be remembered as historically great, I want them to go through one of the best QBs/coaches of all time who are defending their crown.

I'm confident in saying that the best team will win on Sunday; I'm just not sure which team that is.

I read this post and many other posts of yours and I'm sure this question has likely already been posed, but respectfully, what has THIS Ravens team accomplished in the playoffs or ANY Lamar led Ravens team in the playoffs, including the also elite 2019 Ravens?

All this regular season success is great, but if there's anything we know about the Ravens since Lamar became the QB is that they haven't been able to get it done in the playoffs. Period.

Yes, you all had a solid comfortable win against the Texans, but I would argue the Texans are not one of the better teams that made the playoffs, in fact, they likely wouldn't even be in the playoffs if not for Jacksonville's second half collapse. Good young team with an exciting rookie QB but definitely not a Super Bowl contender at this point and time.

Now, none of this precludes Baltimore from being the favorite, being that you were the better team during the regular season, playing at home, etc., but I thinks it's comical if you can't understand why people are questioning the Ravens and how really 'legit' they are.

Going off of playoff performances in the Lamar era, and again I recognize we're talking about THIS years team. All those other playoff games (minus the Cincy one last year) had two common denominators; Lamar Jackson and John Harbaugh. And last I checked, those two are still in the same spot for this upcoming game on Sunday.

So until we SEE the Ravens go on that dominant post season run and win the Super Bowl, MOST (not just Chiefs fans) will be hesitant to buy in to all the other 'metrics' and stuff that are working in the Ravens favor. There were lots of great 'metrics' for the Ravens in 2019 too.

Like Pat once said, 'I'll see it when I believe it.'

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Originally Posted by ArrowHeader (Post 17360291)

The Texans loss is overhyped. Young team making young mistakes. Tied at half. Needed CJ to be CJ and every time they had any progress they got killed on penalties. Shitty field position all day, and defense was on the field way too long. Good teams like Baltimore pull away at the end but Texans did themselves no favors in that game. The key to beating Baltimore has and always will be making Jackson uncomfortable. Spags will be sending heat all day. Mahomes just needs to play like he did against Buffalo. Keep it tight and productive.

****ing hell! 11 penalties for 70 yds vs 3 for 15 yds. It makes sense though. Houston was one of the most penalized teams in the league and Baltimore was one of the least

"I wanted the Chiefs"

I'd be careful what I wished for.

RAVENS FANS - READ THIS!

This is spot on exactly what has happened every year since Patrick Mahomes has been the Chiefs QB.

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 17359950)

We’ve had this conversation every year with a different fan base for the last 6 years. Don’t believe me? Go back into the archives and pull them up.

Opposing Fan:
“Hi, Joe Fan Here from X. Just wanted to stop by and wish you guys luck and a great game Saturday/Sunday. Should be fun…”
(Reads board, can’t believe how confident Chiefs Fans are on a Chiefs MB)

“Have you guys even looked at our stats and who we played and beat? I mean, this team is different…”
(Reads replies and can’t believe the amount of disrespect he’s seeing)

“You know, Mahomes hasn’t faced a player like X or a Defense like ours. This isn’t going to be some BS D like the X that you faced in he Divisional Round.
(Reads replies and can’t believe he’s being ignored. The butthurt intensifies)

“Wow, I can’t believe you guys are so confident and arrogant! Do you even watch football outside of KC? Have you seen these stats? (Links numerous worthless stats that we’ve all seen before and waits for people to be impressed. No one is impressed)

“What the f is wrong with Chiefs Fans? You have NEVER faced an opponent like our Team! This is going to be Mahomes greatest challenge ever. He’ll have to have the Strength of Thor and the Wisdom of Solomon to even have a small chance of victory. You are doomed!” (Reads replies that everyone is now laughing at him. People have now stopped replying. He’s incensed)

“**** you, you bunch of inbred Missouri hillbillies! KC is a shithole and YOUR BBQ sucks!!! I hope our D rips Mahomes head off and shits down his neck. **** you!!! (Account deleted).

*RINSE. REPEAT. EVERY YEAR

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"I don't like competing against him at all." 😂<br><br>Lamar Jackson on his "heavyweight matchup" vs. Patrick Mahomes <br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/Ravens?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Ravens</a>) <a href="https://t.co/itap3nWyVJ">pic.twitter.com/itap3nWyVJ</a></p>— Yahoo Sports (@YahooSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/YahooSports/status/1750240596084789669?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The most the Chiefs have given up is 27 this year, and Baltimore is gonna score 34?

They've given up more than 20 5 times in 19 games and they're gonna give up 34 this week?

Yeah not happening.

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Need Willie Gay and Mike Edwards to get healthy.

I think Andy will go into the game with a plan that lets Allegretti do what he does best so less worried about that. He’s more than competent and I can’t see how Thuney plays this week.

Just want our starters in on defense because I think we can absolutely hold Lamar and the Ravens under 20.

The two teams are pretty close when you look at it.

If the dropped passes are in our rear view, then the Ravens should be nervous. KC is two dropped passes away from the same record as Baltimore, and Kadarius Toneys big toe away from the best record in football.

Defenses are close in yards, only 3 apart in sacks, and our recent points allowed over second halves is legendary.

Ravens were very opportunistic, gaining 18 picks and 13 fumble recoveries for 31 turnovers, to KC'S 8 picks and 9 fumble recoveries, and that's the biggest edge right there. If we don't turn it over and make Lamar earn it, it's gonna be a long day for him.

It's going to come down to which qb can get it done against a monster defense. Mahomes has been dismantling the leagues best defenses for a few years now.

Hard to bet against 15.