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Mr_Tomahawk 02-18-2013 12:24 PM

Benjamin Allbright‏@NFLDraftMonster

If I've said it once, I've said it 100 times: Any team drafting Barkley in the first, will be looking for a new QB in the 1st in 3 years.

htismaqe 02-18-2013 12:27 PM

So is a Grade 3 worse than a Grade 1?

Because all we've heard is that it should have been healed by now...

There's more to this story than is being said, IMO.

B14ckmon 02-18-2013 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9412394)
So is a Grade 3 worse than a Grade 1?

Because all we've heard is that it should have been healed by now...

There's more to this story than is being said, IMO.

Just because it's healed doesn't mean your arm is up to full strength. Especially when a QB goes that long without throwing. You don't throw in the combine to unfamiliar receivers unless you are 100% sure your arm is tip top.

htismaqe 02-18-2013 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9412416)
Just because it's healed doesn't mean your arm is up to full strength. Especially when a QB goes that long without throwing. You don't throw in the combine to unfamiliar receivers unless you are 100% sure your arm is tip top.

So he's healthy enough to throw, he's just ducking competition.

BossChief 02-18-2013 12:40 PM

They said on NFL am that he isn't medically cleared to throw.

B14ckmon 02-18-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9412428)
So he's healthy enough to throw, he's just ducking competition.

I didn't say that. I have no inside information on his arm. Dr Andrews will be there to explain it.

Barkley has been pretty vocal about wanting to fully participate, so clearly it's not his decision. Just like Geno with the Senior Bowl.

The Franchise 02-18-2013 12:41 PM

Barkley is probably best suited to go to a team that already has a veteran QB.

htismaqe 02-18-2013 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9412436)
I didn't say that. I have no inside information on his arm. Dr Andrews will be there to explain it.

Barkley has been pretty vocal about wanting to fully participate, so clearly it's not his decision. Just like Geno with the Senior Bowl.

I know you didn't say that. That statement was pure sarcasm, directed at several people other than you.

htismaqe 02-18-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9412434)
They said on NFL am that he isn't medically cleared to throw.

Which takes me back to my original question.

I remember somebody suggesting that the worst case scenario was like 8-10 weeks.

We're headed WAY past that now.

Is there more to the injury than what we've been told?

B14ckmon 02-18-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9412443)
I know you didn't say that. That statement was pure sarcasm, directed at several people other than you.

I'm sorry. love you.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9412444)
Which takes me back to my original question.

I remember somebody suggesting that the worst case scenario was like 8-10 weeks.

We're headed WAY past that now.

Is there more to the injury than what we've been told?


From what I have found online, a separated/dislocated shoulder can take anywhere from 4-12 weeks to heal. Longer to get full strength back in the shoulder. As someone who has personally separated his shoulder in baseball, I am assuming they are referring to the occasional dead arm feeling you can get for a while after.

htismaqe 02-18-2013 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9412445)
From what I have found online, a separated/dislocated shoulder can take anywhere from 4-12 weeks to heal. Longer to get full strength back in the shoulder. As someone who has personally separated his shoulder in baseball, I am assuming they are referring to the occasional dead arm feeling you can get for a while after.

If he can't throw, he won't get drafted high.

He's gonna end up having his pro day at the last possible minute or he's gonna drop like a rock.

Why the **** did he go back to school?

In58men 02-18-2013 01:13 PM

He's ****ing injured.


He's a checkdown king


He ****ing sucks.

Tribal Warfare 02-18-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9412524)
If he can't throw, he won't get drafted high.

He's gonna end up having his pro day at the last possible minute or he's gonna drop like a rock.

Why the **** did he go back to school?

Ego, he wanted to be the #1 overall pick.

B14ckmon 02-18-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9412524)
If he can't throw, he won't get drafted high.

He's gonna end up having his pro day at the last possible minute or he's gonna drop like a rock.

Why the **** did he go back to school?

His Pro Day was pushed back as of like 2 months ago I believe in anticipation of this. And top QBs rarely throw at the combine. Geno is because his Agent clearly thinks there is still a chance he can impress the Chiefs and/or is worried if the Chiefs pass he could drop out of the top 10 all together.

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9412537)
Ego, he wanted to be the #1 overall pick.

Or you know, because the starting quarterback at USC. Which is basically the college equivalent of being a movie star.

BossChief 02-18-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9412093)
damn....still injured, i assume

yup

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9412444)
Which takes me back to my original question.

I remember somebody suggesting that the worst case scenario was like 8-10 weeks.

We're headed WAY past that now.

Is there more to the injury than what we've been told?

Can't hide anything from the doctors at the combine.

IMO I think he could throw, but would be greatly increasing the probability of re-injury. The best decision he can make is to wait till its completely healed and then throw. Gotta be smart.


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