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Alex Smith: Chief's aren't running a "Cookie-cutter offense" (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=274644)

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9830647)

Poe and Powe are gonna beast.

If this team is average on defense I'll be very thrilled.

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9830641)

It's not going to be a pedestrian defensive line. Not this year. I think that Crennel was absolutely working against the strengths of the players here and I expect to see some 46 sets, some 43 to go along with the base 34.

I also believe that Sean Smith was utilized improperly in Miami and he'll be pretty good in a press coverage scheme that you will see out of Sutton's defense, especially playing the #2 opposite of Flowers. Robinson as a nickel is just fine with me. And Lewis doesn't blow. If he's healthy he's a pretty good free safety.

I know that you love the Doomsayer schtick, but this team is pretty solid on both sides of the ball. Better personnel, better balance than I can remember from what the Chiefs have put on the field over the past decade plus. Don't be the Chiefs fan version of this guy:

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There's a reason why a lot of pundits have predicted the Chiefs as their dark horse the past couple of seasons - talent on both sides of the ball. It's why six guys went to the Pro Bowl this past season even though the team went 2-14.

There were three reasons why the Chiefs stunk in 2012:

None of these guys are here. But the talent is, with a coaching staff that looks to be exemplary. I personally think that the 2013 Chiefs are in a situation similar to the 2010 to 2011 49ers - a lot of talent, but hamstringed the previous year by amazing incompetence in management and coaching.

These boys are going to kick ass this year.

What I'm interested to see is if Sutton knows the Ryan scheme, or if he's just a copycat. If he knows the scheme, there's some good pieces here. Keep in mind that the Jets had HORRENDOUS pass rushers, which is a critical element to that scheme because they put so much pressure that they have to get to the QB quickly.

I think Poe is much further along than people give him credit for, and DeVito is actually a nice fit for the D (while people complain that he can't rush the passer, in the Ryan scheme, he's valuable because he can play multiple positions across the line in both a 3-4 AND a 4-3. We're still a few pieces away on defense and dangerously thin on the line. But I think we could maybe crack the top 10 on the very big "if" that Sutton actually knows this defense.

People are acting like a completely new defensive scheme is gonna be picked up overnight.

Pump your breaks, saccopoo.

It's not a completely new defense, but it is a somewhat different defense.

Sac is just jacking off because we signed the big Mormon has our coach, brought in the worthless QB from Utah, his second love child behind Okung in Matt Reynolds, and another Utah player in Sean Smith.

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9830655)

People are acting like a completely new defensive scheme is gonna be picked up overnight.

Pump your breaks, saccopoo.

Defenses don't take nearly as long as offenses to teach and they have changed overnight.

The part that will be a little challenging is the defensive line, because they have to learn some 4-3 techniques. But DeVito can do it, Tyson Jackson played 3-technique in college, and Poe has been playing multiple techniques for some time (even if he needs quite a bit of development).

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9830666)

We are asking mediocre players to learn a new scheme.

There are going to be growing pains. Top 10 is completely out of the question, barring Dontari Poe becoming HOF status overnight.

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9830671)

We are asking mediocre players to learn a new scheme.

There are going to be growing pains. Top 10 is completely out of the question, barring Dontari Poe becoming HOF status overnight.

Apart from Revis, the defensive talent on KC is no different from New York's.

How long did it take Rex Ryan to turn the Jets around?

He took Mangini's defense (which is the same as Romeo's) which was ranked 18th and turned them into a #1 defense (same defense Sutton will run) in one season.

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9830038)

I don't think so.

It was pretty easy to tell in 2010 what was going on. Cassel was a nightmare until that small stretch in the season's second half.

At minimum, we need "Casshole rapes the NFC West" level of play for Alex Smith to be considered as "playing well."

No no no no no...Matt Cassel shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Alex God-Like Smith; the all-knowing football minds at CP have righteously declared over and over again that SMITH IS NOT CASSEL, and will resemble him in NO way, shape or form evar.

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9830679)

He took Mangini's defense (which is the same as Romeo's) which was ranked 18th and turned them into a #1 defense (same defense Sutton will run) in one season.

We have no one as good as Shaun Ellis or Sione Pouha on this defensive line.

Not even close.

Shit, Tyson Jackson WISHES he was Marques Douglas.

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9829444)

nah, he has always been good/great, and the reason they let him go, was because they were switching to the 3-4, and didn't think he could play end.

Whoops. Apparently the Bengals didn't know much about Justin smith either.

I'm sure the fact that he had a down year that year didn't help.

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9830692)

We have no one as good as Shaun Ellis or Sione Pouha on this defensive line.

Not even close.

Shit, Tyson Jackson WISHES he was Marques Douglas.

And the Jets had no one near as good as Hali and Houston. Bryan Thomas wishes he was Hali or Houston, and Pace is not nearly as good as either of those guys. We have much better edge rushers.

And again, your point was that the defense couldn't turn around quickly. The Jets moved from the same 2-gap 3-4 to Ryan's 3-4 and went from a #18 defense to the best in the NFL.

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9830569)

When was Hudson not back to normal?

His break was clean and didn't even require surgery. He was simply going to be in a boot for long enough that they decided to put him on IR in 2012.

From everything I've heard, he's tip top:

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It was an article from rotoworld. I'll try to find it.

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9830671)

We are asking mediocre players to learn a new scheme.

There are going to be growing pains. Top 10 is completely out of the question, barring Dontari Poe becoming HOF status overnight.

Half the D went to the Pro Bowl dip-ass. And this after they played in a scheme where they supposed to play patty-cake with the offense. These guys are gonna thrive in a defense where the philosophy is: Go. Hunt. Kill Skuls.

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9830754)

Half the D went to the Pro Bowl dip-ass..

Are you seriously too obtuse to realize I am not talking about those players?

Tyson Jackson, Dontari Poe and Mike DeVito are all average as **** non game-changers, and there is absolutely no depth.

In this league you need to have at least one difference maker on the defensive line to compete with the good teams.

We have jack at D-line. I'm actually being generous stating we could be a middle of the pack D. Yet some of you insist on harboring delusions of grandeur.