Were you a fly on the wall to Andy's child rearing I mean come on KK got down in the dirt with something he knows nothing about. People can be great Fathers and still there kids make bad decisions and friends. Free will is a funny thing people will do what they do no matter their upbringing. It wasn't KK business to make assumptions about Andy's family he know 0 about. The calling out players he has given chances was fair game family wasn't you should know better. Even after all the KK could have save his job with a sincere heartfelt honest apology instead he blew it for all of KC to see. He is gone for a good reason.

When a judge describes your home as a drug emporium and your family as "in crisis," and both of them end up in jail you didn't do a lot to succeed as a parent.

Both of them were jailed. One later OD'd during his extra chance, and the other seems to have straightened his life out.

You can make an equally compelling argument that any succeed Britt Reid has had since then was related to his incarceration rather than Andy Reid's parenting. After all, it's not like Andy wasn't giving him extra chances beforehand.

Now the irony here is that Kietzman actually made his case worse by lying, because he was worried about the reaction of others. He was obviously talking about both kids, among the numerous other issues that Reid has had trying to control problem players.

Wow so you know what goes on in both Tyreek AND Andy’s households?

You’re nothing but a judgmental prick. I was wrong when I called King “the worst” this week, because it’s definitely you.

And for every “failure” Reid has he has a success story as well. Just because you either forget or don’t acknowledge the successes like Britt, Kelce, Vick etc. doesn’t mean that they didn’t happen.

Imagine if KK had gone all-in with this instead of denying OR apologizing.

Yeah and Judges haven't had the same shit happen with their children right under their noses.

Went to HS with one of these judges sons. He was the biggest drugger dealer and troublemaker in the school thing shed from him like water off a duck's back. Until finally did not and went to jail for armed bank robbery.

Thank you, I missed it.

When tons of drugs are found in the possession of his children and his kid says he enjoys being a drug dealer I generally have a pretty good idea, because they ****ing told me.

Also, it's rich of you to say that I can't know what happens in the house, but you know that what Reid does leads to the purported "successes". That's a complete contradiction.

So the parents are always to blame in these situations? You don’t know any good people/parents that have kids that do drugs?

I didn’t say what Reid does leads to success necessarily. I’m simply saying that some of these people with issues are successes and some are failures. You can’t use a success as an example of a failure like KK did. And people like you and KK are pretending there are only failures.

One kid doing drugs? Shit happens.

Multiple kids getting arrested and imprisoned for guns and weapons charges? That's a little different.

He has 3 other kids. Were they all supposed to be angels? Are people supposed to be perfect? If it’s simply on them as parents, what happened with the others?

You judge like somebody who has never done anything wrong or made a mistake. Get off your ****ing high horse.

Actually, what I said was that what Kietzman said wasn't necessarily inaccurate. And it wasn't. Reid has a bad track record as a parent, and he has an ignominious history with troubled players, which he's signing not because they had personal issues, but because they have talent that is a good investment because others don't want to touch them.

Notice how it's the Vicks and Tyreek Hills of the world he's taking chances on, rather than back of the roster NFL churn? There's a reason for that, and if it was due to his humanity/charity, you'd see him taking chances on Marcus 3rd String rather than Marcus Peters.

Misplaced aggression. Set your sights on something we can all appreciate like splitting up Google on CNN.

I'll leave that to Trump.

Out of my jurisdiction.