We are just not agreeing this year, man.

The best S's in the league tackle well.

They're are the last line of defense. It's a freakin' job requirement.

Like i said, a S that can't tackle is a soft S.

The one saving grace about Delpit that must be considered is that, IIRC, he was dealing with a high ankle sprain most of last season. You could possible attribute his poor tackling to that.

But that of course does not explain his poor tackling in '18.

It's a legit problem.

This isn't a case of, "oh he's not a strong tackler but he gets the job done". This is a case of his tackling being so below average that it's a concerning weakness.

Not from what i've heard.

I'm not on the Delpit wagon at all

Me too.

My primary draft guide has all the same knocks on him, sounds like a bigger Ron Parker to me... pass

Have you watched Antoine Winfield Jr?

I'm changing my pick to J.K. Dobbins - RB Ohio state.

I like his books.

I think he probably is, to be honest.

But it's pretty much a shite draft class for TE, IMO.

Take a look at the 2011 draft class headed by Kyle Rudolph and then a bunch of flawed dudes that really didn't amount to much. Rudolph was the best TE of the bunch and by a fair amount...but he was still pretty 'meh' when it got right down to it.

Just an unspectacular lot. Are there a lot of 'Virgil Green' type guys who have potential and measurables and will likely do dick at the next level - yup. But that's about it. More likely you'll see a Lance Kendricks or Charles Clay and forget all about the 2020 TE class when all is said and done.

Seriously though, I like this RB in the 2nd - Clyde Edwards-Helaire
(RB)

My favorite DB in the draft.

You wanna talk about a guy who's not afraid to lay the wood? Antoine Winfield Jr.

He plays with reckless abandon and that's one of my favorite safety traits. Not afraid to throw his body in the hole and greet the RB with a thump. And his ball skills are fantastic. A true ball hawk.

Of course that also means that injuries will be a concern. It always is with guys like that.

Eric Berry played like that and his body couldn't hold up, and im not talking about the Cancer either. I remember Eric talking after his rookie year about how beat up he felt vs compared to College.

Earl Thomas too.

It takes a lot out of those kinds of guys.

But if we can get his best years....

Delpit is a willing tackler...just weirdly not very good at it.

Murray is soft - Delpit is just not terribly effective. The former is permanent but the latter can be trained out. The former sees someone coming, plays him off a hip or makes a business decision, fails to slow him down and it's a big play. The latter, OTOH, will at least get in there and get in his way - slow him down a bit for a rally tackle from his teammates.

Would you like everyone to be Mathieu - oh hell yes. But again, Delpit has an aggressive streak and with some technique changes can make himself a fine tackler.

In the end I get the vibe that there's gonna be a surprise slide that I like a little more than Delpit by the time it's said and done. But I think some of the late hate on the guy is, as Mecca noted, some old heads that think safeties are still Ronnie Lott. Delpit won the Thorpe because he's a dynamic, athletic coverage safety who can do a lot of things well.

Where do you think falls? He's got the feel of a back of the 2nd-mid 3rd guy to me.

Love this. Wilson, Hitchens, Niemann might be the least athletic LB group.

I wonder how The Veach views Claypool. As a WR or as a TE?

I mean, i think he has all the tools to be a starting WR in this league.

But could you imagine him and Kelce as a two TE set? Jeebus.

But then again, i don't expect opposing D's will play them like a traditional two TE set.

I think, no matter what label you put on Claypool or where you line him up, he's getting a real DB on him so it's moot.

If the picks stay as they are, and he gets into the second, I'd say Dallas is his floor of where Delpit gets picked.