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Explain.

Are the lines not interminably long despite the fact that you rarely have more than 30K people there?

Does the park not have an unfinished/industrial look?

Are the seats not situated in a fashion which creates poor sightlines in many areas around the stadium (this can be seen from the television view, BTW).

There's nothing I've said in that post which is really debateable. The park is overhyped and mediocre.

Busch III runs into the same problems.

But to compare Petco to Comerica, AT&T, Safeco, Fenway, Yankee Stadium, The Ballpark in Arlington, Camden Yards, Jacobs Field, Pac-Bell or even Kaufmann stadium is just folly.

Sorry, but you guys have nothing more than an average stadium. It may be a hell of a lot better than what you had, but when compared to other stadiums I've been to - it ain't much.

The good news is that Freese should get a chance with RISP.

Holliday blows so hard.

Dammit Heath

Thanks, dickhead. 4321

Raise your hand if you actually expected Rasmus to make contact there.

(please keep your hand down, I'd hate to have to hit you with a tack hammer because you are a reerun)

Wainwright should be the one getting free shots with the hammer. What a ****ing waste. This offense is as bad the Chiefs' right now.

In fairness, the Cards have hit a couple of balls tonight which would've been out in any reasonable park.

Though the Pads would've picked up one of their own on Ludwick's catch.

I just hate baseball in Petco. Throw it down the middle and let them blast it into the abyss; doesn't matter, it'll die somewhere in the OF.

There's a reason Jon Fing Garland pitches like Jesus out there and it isn't because he's suddenly become Greg Maddux (his road ERA is only 2.5 runs higher than his home ERA and a 31-27 K/BB ratio doesn't exactly suggest a pitching diety).

That park just sucks the life out of a ballgame.

Dude, how manyseats did you sit in? 1? Where was it?

I've sat in 20+ sections and never had a bad seat.

It may have an industrial look but not unfinished. It's not a big slab of concrete like Qualcomm.

The poor attendance can be attributed to the suffering economy. SD is one of the hardest cities hit. Before last year there were a lot of sellouts.

Check the box scores of all the games this year, there have been plenty of high scoring games.

Lastly I've been to Angels Stadium, AT&T Park, Coors Field, Qualcomm Stadium, and Petco Park. Petco is by far the nicest stadium.

FML

Garland as now given up 3 ER in 32 IP at Petco.

Jon. Garland.

He of the career 4.36 ERA

Nah, the park has nothing to do with that.

Baseball at Petco is a bigger joke than baseball at Coors was pre-humidor. The only worse place to watch a game is at the carnival ride in Houston.

Yeah, I really get to see too much of ****ing petco by following the Rockies as a secondary team.

Welllll at least Pujols got 3 hits. :rolleyes:

I got bored so I went wandering around the stadium. My seats were in RF, but I did a couple of laps around both the lower and upper bowls because I was pretty sure there weren't going to be any runs scored (I was right). The sightlines were terrible.

Coors is the next park on my list and if you think Petco was a better place to catch a game than AT&T, I'm pretty sure Coors will also put Petco to shame.

C'mon - the thing has exposed rafters everywhere and concrete bleachers make up the CF porches. The difference between 'industrial' and 'unfinished' is purely connotation. I have no idea how you can look at stadiums like PNC or Kaufmann and be impressed by the finish of Petco. It's not like you're looking at brick facades out there - it's concrete and steel.

Say what you want about the number of 'high scoring games' there, but please stop ignoring that it's all relative. Any stadium will occasionally yeild a few runs scored, but on the aggregate, Petco is death valley. Petco has the lowest park value of every stadium in baseball and it's not even close. Last season the 2nd to lowest park was the Jake at .83; Petco was a whopping .09 lower at .741.

That's a pitching independant number based on how the ball simply plays out. Petco kills hitting. No matter who's pitching. No matter how sharp they are. It devalues everything that goes on there to the same extent that Coors devalued everything. But at least at Coors, the devaluation led to exciting (albeit arcade-type) ballgames. At Petco, a 2 run lead means game over.

You are acting like the home run is the only legit way to score in baseball.

Garland has a 3.54 ERA on the road, more than respectable. Enough to win games at least.

Also check this site.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor

Petco Park isn't even last, and also, there are more HR per game there than there is at Busch.