Absolutely. He's also one of those, much like Kyle, that you don't find a whole lot of "middle ground" folks (though I have no real love or hate for either of them). Either you love him or you want to see him 10 laps down (or in the wall).

The #3 was that way as well. My favorite driver back then was the #28 and whoever was the last to put the #3 into the wall until I got to meet him and found out he was a really great guy. I still didn't root FOR him, but I found it really hard to root against him.
RIP Dale

RedNeckRaider: Junior was running slower than Harvick. The #29 passed Junior clean. We both know if Harvick was Dale, Sr -- Junior would've hit the wall. Same thing with Kyle. Busch would've normally had a conniption if someone bumped him for the lead. Harvick found his way around Kyle and Junior by racing them clean. If Junior or Kyle had a faster car, they would've battled it out for the lead. But Harvick was faster and that was the difference.

Four fewer laps and Junior would have won. Plain and simple.

truebigdog: This sentence captures the spirit of a true NASCAR fan.

just my opinion

The best race game ever is Nascar2003.........Anybody still racin' 2003?


PhilFree:arrow:

Isn't that the one with Dale JR on the cover? If so then yeah I do, I go the wrong way and take out half the field at Indianapolis.

I have said the #29 was faster and I agree the #88 could not out run him. I still think he could have rubbed and ran for the lapped cars. 3rd was the worst outcome and a chance at 1st. As far as the in the wall part once again I disagree, nobody needed to hit the wall and I don't think Dale Sr would have put him in the wall in that situation. I think he would have used the same move Jr used to get around the #18 I have watched the end of that race several times and we will just have to agree to disagree on this one :)

i used to race nascar 2003 doesn't work on my computer anymore

What did you do wear the disc out?

I use to boss races and I always enjoyed booting and having peeps banned who did stuff like that.


PhilFree:arrow:

yeah the disk was pretty warn out, but I had a boot disk and could play it offline without the disk. I did put tons of hours in it. 6 years ago I raced for money online and made some money back. Fun stuff. Momo Wheel!

to the #88 fans:

i've got this one. don't worry, i've got years of experience.

first i gotta eat dinner. ... http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-14836.gif

... and pumpkin, Dale Sr would've put Junior in the wall to get around him. Harvick gave him a push to let the 88 know that he had a faster car. But for some reason, you think Junior should've taken Harvick out. Because if Harvick's car remained in one piece, that race would've been red flagged.

Now that you have watched the race several times -- Junior pulled a hell of a crossover on Harvick. His diddy taught him well!

I thought we were going to discuss this: http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-14836.gif

Lol not once have I said Jr should have "taken Harvick out" re read what I said. At one point he had a nose in far enough to get him loose. Red flagged...really? Look at that crap Carl Edwards has pulled and there was no flag, and that happened at a super speedway~

RedNeckRaider,

But at some point, we all figure out how it works -- Junior led 17/18 laps around the track before Harvick made his winning pass with four to go. What good would've it done to get Harvick loose? Harvick's super fast car would've found his way to the front when it counted the most - when he crossed the checkered flag. You can't beat speed.

And please don't dismiss the Chase. Junior gains more points coming in second than ending up mowing the lawn. NASCAR drivers won't intentionally take another driver because they could loose points.

Please understand there are two types of NASCAR search history - Pre-Chase and Chase.

The Chase ruined NASCAR - It is boring.

Yours truly,

Longtime NASCRAP fan http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-14836.gif

Don't make me pull this thread over to seperate you two :)

We're watching Kyle Busch and perhaps Carl Edwards mature in front of our eyes so far this season. Anyway, I hope so.

It has taken Busch seven years to understand that to compete at a championship -- you need friends. A Chase driver is up against 11 other drivers instead of 42. You have to learn patience along the way or you dont understand NASCAR's Chase book of history -
During the Chase, drivers are under the scrutiny of the remaining 31 drivers who will help you along the way or completely destroy your day.