Its a shame we need quarterback again because Stephon Tuitt from Notre Dame would be the beast we need on the DL.

Everyone that's gone was the reason they were bad, and everyone that's still here will be better than they were. You know, schemes.

I don't think we know what Dontari Poe is. Tyson Jackson has shown himself to be a decent run stopper in Romeo's 3-4, but this system will be totally different. He's physically strong enough to at least be a bull-rush presence. Also, there is Powe, who I think showed himself to be at least a decent rotational player.

And in this type of aggressive defense, a guy like Bailey may well thrive as well.

You have decided, in advance, that no player will progress, that no drafted players will be any good, and that the QB will Cassel the joint up. Scheme changes mean nothing to you, quality of coaching means nothing to you, all of it is doomed to fail 100 percent because you don't like Alex Smith.

I don't even understand what you get out of any of this. If I was that upset about the direction of the team I think I'd just quit watching and find something else to do. It's kind of pathetic, really.

First of all, this talentless defensive line is about the same quality as the defense that ranked #12 just 2 years ago. Secondly, your obsession with the defensive line shows how little you know about Rex Ryan's defense. The Chiefs' have easily one of the best pass rushing OLB combos of any 3-4 defense. I would gladly take Houston-DeVito-Jackson-Hali over Pace-Ellis-Douglas-Thomas any day of the week, and that was the Jets' DE/OLB combos the year that defense ranked #1. Pouha is a reasonably good NT, but he wasn't anything close to elite. What we saw of Poe last year, there's no reason to believe he can't approach Pouha level play.

It's not like these D-linemen are bad. All the Ryan defense demands of these guys is versatility, and they all have it. Being able to pass rush is a nice bonus, but it's not like Ngata and Justin Bannon have been any kind of sack monsters in Baltimore. Tyson Jackson was always branded as a 3-4/4-3 hybrid, DeVito can play almost every position on the line, and Poe was scouted as a guy who could eventually do the same. Behind them, Powe is a decent enough Nose and maybe the Chiefs have something in Bailey. They could easily have a solid but unspectacular line, which is fine given the elite talent they have off the edges.

Finally, nobody has delusions that the Chiefs are a #1 defense. I said they can MAYBE crack the top 10 if Sutton coaches them well. Your idea that it is a reach to call them middle of the pack is just laughable. If the Chiefs can be top 15 behind Romeo's ultra-conservative defense, they can be top 15 behind Sutton's aggressive defense. Easily.

Piss off, troll

I would like to give Poe another season to see what he can do.

I haven't looked at this thread since the day it was posted. I'm afraid to even read what the hell has been going on here the last few days.

In the beginning, there is some great football discussion that has been sorely missed around these parts, then it turned into a discussion of a Casselesque nature for a bit. But all in all, not a bad read if you ask me.

Oh good lord. This fanbase just never fails to disappoint.

Awesome!

The Depth is probably going to be the strength of this d line actually. And, again, DeVito, far more than talent, is going to bring relentlessness, and work ethic, and vet leadership to a unit that really doesn't have any.
What people don't know about the jets. Despite them having a very Chiefs like offense last year, and losing Revis for the year, they still finished 8th in total defense. And as you pointed out, they don't have pass rushers that the Chiefs do.....
That 49ers team you LOVVVVVVE to reference in 2011 having the number two defense.........they had less time to learn a new scheme than the Chiefs do. So, why not? EXCUSE MAKER.

"At No. 17, some thought the Chiefs might take [insert QB name, placeholder: Aaron Murray] and try to address their QB spot for the future, but they address their defensive line with Stephon Tuitt from Notre Dame instead. Mike Mayock, what do you think?"

'GREAT value pick! I mean, great. Teddy Bridgewater was the only QB I could bang the table for in this draft, and we saw him go first overall to the Jaguars. There was some talk about the Chiefs trying to move up to that pick, but they just couldn't quite get there. So instead of reaching for a QB who doesn't have 1st round value, they make a smart value pick with Tuit...'

Also, does anybody else hear what some are say about DeVito and have flashbacks to Nate Hobgood-Chittick?

"He's smart and tries really hard all the time, and that will rub off on his teammates."

:deevee:

FYP...