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'Hamas' Jenkins 06-29-2019 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14328278)
He has 3 other kids. Were they all supposed to be angels? Are people supposed to be perfect? If it’s simply on them as parents, what happened with the others?

You judge like somebody who has never done anything wrong or made a mistake. Get off your ****ing high horse.
No, you characterize it that way and keep deflecting from the debate at hand because you don't have a salient counterargument.

The issue at hand is the accuracy of Kietzman's comments about Reid's ability to instill discipline, whether in his kids or players.

This is an aside, but I've made plenty of mistakes. However, I also know, as a parent, that the most valuable thing you can give your kids is your time. When you're working 90-hour weeks your kids aren't getting that time, and in many cases, there will be consequences to those decisions.

staylor26 06-29-2019 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14328290)
No, you characterize it that way and keep deflecting from the debate at hand because you don't have a salient counterargument.

The issue at hand is the accuracy of Kietzman's comments about Reid's ability to instill discipline, whether in his kids or players.

This is an aside, but I've made plenty of mistakes. However, I also know, as a parent, that the most valuable thing you can give your kids is your time. When you're working 90-hour weeks your kids aren't getting that time, and in many cases, there will be consequences to those decisions.
There was no accuracy to KK’s claims because it’s not his job to “fix” people either way. I’m telling you why, not deflecting.

srvy 06-29-2019 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14328290)
No, you characterize it that way and keep deflecting from the debate at hand because you don't have a salient counterargument.

The issue at hand is the accuracy of Kietzman's comments about Reid's ability to instill discipline, whether in his kids or players.

This is an aside, but I've made plenty of mistakes. However, I also know, as a parent, that the most valuable thing you can give your kids is your time. When you're working 90-hour weeks your kids aren't getting that time, and in many cases, there will be consequences to those decisions.
when you were buzzing on Andy's wall did you have a stop watch on the time Andy spent with his two son's?

FAX 06-29-2019 04:08 PM
Fixing people is difficult. Especially them dang full-grown addict kids and millionaire football stars.

You think you got 'em fixed and "Boom", they break on ya again.

FAX

patteeu 06-29-2019 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 14328253)
Imagine if KK had gone all-in with this instead of denying OR apologizing.
I'm with you. Apologizing doesn't work.

srvy 06-29-2019 04:16 PM
When Hamas is handing out scripts at the drive through window at cvc I wonder if he lectures parents picking up there kid scripts. How your son is to young to need this you should be spending more time at home with them. Your child has strep throat you should be cleaning and disinfecting you home better.

patteeu 06-29-2019 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 14328329)
When Hamas is handing out scripts at the drive through window at cvc I wonder if he lectures parents picking up there kid scripts. How your son is to young to need this you should be spending more time at home with them. Your child has strep throat you should be cleaning and disinfecting you home better.
Why are you so defensive of Andy Reid? Is he related? Do you work so much you never see your kids?

srvy 06-29-2019 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 14328333)
Why are you so defensive of Andy Reid? Is he related? Do you work so much you never see your kids?
Nope I just dont care for busy bodies. Do you have a family if so would you like Hamas critiquing them?

patteeu 06-29-2019 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 14328338)
Nope I just dont care for busy bodies. Do you have a family if so would you like Hamas critiquing them?
My kids didn't have an absentee father. All Hamas said was that KK wasn't entirely wrong. He didn't even fully endorse KK's viewpoint.

alpha_omega 06-29-2019 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 14328058)
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Most of the country still think Hill broke his kids arm and want him banned from the NFL...I wonder where they get this idea?
Traveling this weekend and this is 100% correct. People asking me what are we gonna do without Hill.

srvy 06-29-2019 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 14328340)
My kids didn't have an absentee father. All Hamas said was that KK wasn't entirely wrong. He didn't even fully endorse KK's viewpoint.
We dont know that Coach Reid was an absentee father do we? As for having to travel for work that nothing new for parents you do what you have to do.

IowaHawkeyeChief 06-29-2019 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14328290)
No, you characterize it that way and keep deflecting from the debate at hand because you don't have a salient counterargument.

The issue at hand is the accuracy of Kietzman's comments about Reid's ability to instill discipline, whether in his kids or players.

This is an aside, but I've made plenty of mistakes. However, I also know, as a parent, that the most valuable thing you can give your kids is your time. When you're working 90-hour weeks your kids aren't getting that time, and in many cases, there will be consequences to those decisions.
Hamas = KK=Judgmental Pricks

cooper barrett 06-29-2019 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 14328371)
Hamas = KK=Judgmental Pricks
8 0f 10 CP'ers =

patteeu 06-29-2019 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 14328364)
We dont know that Coach Reid was an absentee father do we? As for having to travel for work that nothing new for parents you do what you have to do.
Of course we do.

srvy 06-29-2019 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 14328392)
Of course we do.
On which? As for if its we do know he was absentee who keeps those records? Does someone make note of when family travel with him and how often? Seems to me you are making absolutes of something no one knows but Andy and his immediate family.


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