Time for somebody else to start next year's thread. My mojo us gone.

Naw man...go for it. I like how you manage the OP. Start with prospects and all that jazz like you did last year. Time to reload!

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Great game tonight KU...So far, it was the best game of the Tourney..IMO...Too bad EJ pulled a Pressy.

It felt like a blowout win, even though we were never blowing them out. Then EJ stopped fouling and got to play.

6,500 posts. Unreal

What a tragedy. Up 8 with 1:15. If literally anything differently happens we advance. EJ was the pos that I always said he was and he killed us tonight in every fashion of the game. Fun fact: Tharpe held Burke to 4 points while others gave up 17. Why Releford wasn't on him late or in OT ill never know.


This tourney was winnable. There's always next year but we will never see another shotblocker like Jeff or a talent like Ben. We are seriously rebuilding next year like 2006 so I guess I'll look for 2015 as our next realistic chance for a Final Four. I don't blame Self much because I can't think of much I'd have done differently. Burke hits a step back 28 footer with Young lunging at him.....that's a high five Trey. It was Memphis 2008 in reverse tonight.

If you can stomach watching the replay you will noticed EJ tackling #4 as Burke was hitting the tying 3. It looked me to be a foul. KU was lucky Michigan was not shooting free throws to win the game in regulation.

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Yeah, "tackling". LMAO

KU definitely should have fouled up 3. What can you say though? This is exactly like the '08 National Championship game KU won. Down 3 scores late, clutch 3, win in OT.....it all evens out.

no. We were up 3. A foul there would have been great (much better than a 3 by Burke obviously).

I was screaming for the foul. Too many times now, the 3 is hit, and coaches second guess themselves (ask coach cal)

Yeah in the grand scheme of life this one is a killer.........comparable to testicular cancer and earthquakes in the Far East. I'm not piling on KU fans tonight because that was just brutal, but lets get a grip dude.

Stfu geek

The foul was off the ball as the shot was headed in the basket so the basket would have counted and since Michigan was in the double bonus they would had 2 FTs to attempt to take the lead with 4 secs left in regulation.

badass season guys

Seriously:thumbup:

Here's hoping to some kind of mizzou/beaker match up next year! :beer:

Haha im in that picture

Tough loss. Perhaps the toughest to deal with from a fan perspective since the UNI loss in 2010. This team wasn't anywhere near as good as that one and almost assuredly wouldn't have won a national championship anyway even if they had won tonight. But the way they gave the game away after completely dominating it for so long was pretty devastating. They did everything right for almost its entirety and then started playing not to lose with about five minutes left. We've seen this team have those stretches throughout the year when trying to close out games (and usually they ended up winning anyway). We saw it again tonight and the difference was Trey Burke was ready to take advantage of their mistakes.

I feel awful for EJ. He cared so much and did so much for this program (131 career wins, 4 B12 titles, a national finals appearance) over his time in Lawrence, so it's a shame that his KU legacy has to end like this. They rode with him for good or bad over the last two seasons (often to great success), but tonight we saw the bad.

Good season overall certainly, but the finish of this one will always leave a bitter taste. Most seasons do in the end, I suppose.

I always hate the morning after a loss like that because I have to figure out when I wake up whether it happened or I dreamed it. I actually had a pretty vivid dream the night before the WKU game that KU had won the National Title. It was a pretty emotional dream. Just my deepest desires trying to become reality I guess. But anyway, once I figured out that it actually happened last night, all I could think about was, "we had it won." At least if it were a back and forth game or KU played like shit all game, I could have prepared myself for the loss. As it was, I was still nervous because as we know too well anything can happen (and did). Still I was feeling pretty assured up double digits with 2 minutes left and the way Michigan had played all game long.

I dont. I feel bad when things don't go your way when you play your ass off. I don't feel bad when you do stupid things on the court over and over and over again.

A game hurts like this so bad because it was a great matchup, 2 really good teams, and Kansas came out stormin and took control for the entire game until late. It's one of those games where you don't know how you lost it, but you did...and it was a Senior driven team that set some records and was all year round one of the teams expected to make the Final 4.

Then before you know it, your team doesn't go in for the kill, the opponent comes back because Self is crazy conservative in the tournament and eventually you'll see a prayer 3 go in from the other team, and once that happens the wind is completely taken out of your sails. You knew this team was gonna lose once Burke hit that prayer.

KU was a better team with Johnson on the bench. This is one of the first times that I can remember where I put that on Self.

He didn't do squat for KU with the exception of a good March run last year. He had one good game this year vs ISU and he was an abysmal wreck the entire rest of the games. He singlehandedly axe-murdered a runaway win last night in a year where the tourney was definitely winnable. Eff him, I hope he never comes back to KU in any form esp after the nut-shot to McGary.


EJ didn't even hardly play his first two years so the 131 wins thing is basically nonsense. We would've won 28 games this year without him anyway.

Oh, it must have sucked to lose like that. In the Sweet Sixteen, no less!

... *cries forever*

Yep, we got Memphised.

I felt bad for Sherron Collins going out against Northern Iowa, even though he's got a championship ring.

I don't feel sorry for that skittish dumbass EJ. Not one bit.

It's pretty obvious EJ played his ass off both yesterday and throughout his KU career. If anything yesterday, he cared too much and let the pressure get to him. But I'm not going to waste my time convincing the jackasses of this fanbase of his value to the team (which Self knew over the last two years) or not hating him over some mistakes on the court.

They'll have to smuggle him out of Lawrence.

Well, Self called him out publically and said: "This team doesn't have a PG" I assume that's what you mean when you say Self knew his value. He's a natural 2 and Self played him at the PG because he was the best option. But he was not the ideal option. Missing on Smart changed the team. If we played Tharpe at PG all year, our record might've been a couple games worse perhaps but EJ didn't really drive us to many wins this year. Jeff, Travis and Ben did most of the heavy lifting.


You can't ignore the game last night. Not just the nut punch, but the 0-5 assist ratio and the total meltdown the last 3 minutes.

No, it's more about how he started him in every game for two straight seasons, for good or bad (and considering all the great things those teams accomplished, it wasn't a mistake).

Nobody is. Fair or unfair, Elijah is going to have to live with that being his legacy as a KU player. But I certainly have no intentions of being a dick about it considering how much he cared.

Yeah, that was a tough loss. But I'm a lot better now than losing to the obviously bad schools. That was truly awful. At this point, if we make it to the s16, the crapshoot aspect comes into play. We definitely pissed this one away, but not nearly to the extent of VCU.

I said it quite a bit at the beginning of the year, this team misses Tyshawn Taylor. For all the turnovers, he made up for it. He was pretty damn clutch and could flat out get around anybody at any time. That was really lacking this year.

I'm really going to miss the seniors. Especially Releford and Withey. I'm a defense junkie an those guys were the best. Plus Releford was just a damn good Kid and ball player.

Sucky end to a fun year.

I think if there's ever a player you could be a "dick" about, it's this clown. Punching a guy in the nuts on national TV? That's just great for our image EJ. 3 fouls in the first few minutes. Then gets burnt repeatedly in the 2nd half by Burke and to top it off, turns it over 3 times in 80 seconds to fuel the collapse.


If he cared so much, why did he lollygag it up halfcourt that one time? Looked like a guy who didn't really care at all.

TTaylor had a great stretch of baseball last year, when the team needed a bucket he could always get to the rim.

Ty doesn't play baseball. :)

Not really. I'll reserve my disdain for those that don't give an effort, don't play within Self's system, and don't give a damn about the program. Not somebody who tried his best here, played within Self's system, and was a major part of so many accomplished teams.

Girls goin after it.

KU fan cries on the radio after Michigan loss.

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EJ was a good enough player miscast in a role out of necessity. He was perfect as a role player. What really sucks is, I believe a solid (even if unspectacular) point guard would have made KU team a legit final four team. That would have allowed EJ to rotate in to a more comfortable role, which is basically to get an extra perimeter shooter who you can really ride when he gets hot.

Imagine if we had landed Smart.

I agree. The one big thing this KU team was missing was a solid, facilitating PG this year. With that, they would have been definitively the best team in the country. Neither EJ (out of position) or Tharpe (inconsistency) were able to provide solid enough production out of that spot over the entire season and it led to a kind of offensive stagnancy at times. Through their defense, KU still did quite well despite it though (B12 titles, 2nd overall #1 seed), but it could have been more.

So . . . you guys are ****ing reeruned.

Was there ever any doubt?

Not really. I just wanted to rub it in.

No. But it is always nice to have proof of how reeruned they are when they inevitably start saying reeruned shit again.

PB and CoMo have never been right about anything.

Subject doesn't matter.

Point well taken.

Of course it doesn't hurt to have Wiggins, and a big shout out to Frank Mason.

Now that was a fun game to watch. Frank Mason is awesome. Fearless kid. Going to be fun watching him play.

Great bump.

Any chance either of them show up and eat crow?

wrong thread

Ellis had a bad year last season, the 2nd worst shooting year in 10 years of Self's players at KU. It'll be ok. You'll get over it. You'll find a way to cope. Or not.


I don't remember any people saying he'd suck forever, just like most people bitching about Eric Fisher aren't saying he'll suck in the future either. You're really proving nothing here, unless someone said he's not a D1 caliber player or something extreme. If that was said, then that would be incorrect obviously.


It's like saying "You said Zack Greinke sucked when he went 5-18!" a few years later when he won the Cy Young. Wouldn't disprove point 1 at all, it would just make you look stupid Pablo.

And the answer is no.

Zack Greinke didn't ever suck. His Cy Young proves this.

Except you didn't say "Ellis sucks right now". You said:

He did suck, and he admitted he was terrible. If Perry even says it, and he did publicly, I don't see why you'd be so defensive. He's not your brother.


You need to post where I also said I expect him to be much better as a Soph. Don't cherry-pick quotes, nobody said he should transfer.

I'm not cherry picking quotes. I'm picking the quote where you called him a piece of shit. Where you said he was the worst player you've seen at KU in 40 years. I'm not searching through your reeruned posting to help you out.

How about you just get your balls out of that purse you are carrying around and just say "Yeah, I was pretty ****ing stupid about Ellis."

You are the last person in the universe that needs to lecture people on cherry-picking.

Because calling a player "a piece of shit" is better than saying he "should just transfer."

It takes a really special human being to falsely accuse others of cherry-picking while you yourself cherry-pick and alter quotes to change the context.