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BigMeatballDave 06-28-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9781590)
Again, I agree.

This teams fortunes won't change until they draft a quarterback that can inject some life into this stale franchise.

Successful rebuilds always start with drafting quarterbacks.

Drew Brees, Brett Favre, and Tom Brady say Hi.

DaneMcCloud 06-28-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9781630)
This.

What you know about the NFL and football in general could fit in a thimble in the hand of a Barbie Doll.

Mav 06-28-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9781625)
Joe Montana = Greatest Quarterback of All Time or Alex "8-8" Smith. Pretty much have to be a dumbass to switch teams because of Alex Smith.

I am saying this respectfully. A lot of hiner fans that came here because of Alex Smith, aren't saying they are chiefs fans, just hoping that Alex has success. I love Alex Smith. But to a lot of you. That seems CRAZY because hes a mediocre, or shit qb in your eyes. But, you also haven't been cheering for the guy for 8 years, know what he brings other than on the field ability. And that is fine. It is no different than when last year, Robinson Cano got his ass booed reeruned at the home run derby, all because he wouldn't pick Billy Butler. To me, I was like who the hell cares. Billy Butler is a turd. Now that would seem offensive to you......ITs a pity that we as humans cant even empathize a little. Hopefully, Alex Smith does good enough for your team that perhaps one day you will appreciate him the way people appreciate Trent Green. Probably not, but it would be nice. Hes a hell of a person, and not a horrible football player. Just not great.

DaneMcCloud 06-28-2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9781642)
Drew Brees, Brett Favre, and Tom Brady say Hi.

As do Jim Plunkett, Brad Johnson, Kurt Warner, Doug Williams, Joe Theisman, Lenny Dawson and Trent Dilfer.

But there's only ONE WAY!

LMAO

Seriously guys, get over yourselves.

Mav 06-28-2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9781642)
Drew Brees, Brett Favre, and Tom Brady say Hi.

ehhh, Tom Brady was drafted by the pats........And he didn't specify round. Just thought I would clear that up. That's why I didn't mention him.

mcaj22 06-28-2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9781618)
You sure are assuming a lot. I guess you think that without Welker, without gronk, without the murderer, that the Patriots aren't going to struggle. YOu are assuming that the Dolphins are going to be better because they added, MIKE WALLACE?

The steelers, and Ravens are FAR WORSE than they were a year ago. Also, the steelers are just flat out OLD. Yes, its true, you probably will have to fight for a wildcard with the colts/Texans runner up, but look at the division you play in. Its AWFUL. There is no competition for second place. And to think that you cant split with the bronocs, that just crazy.

A lot of your assumptions are based off of reputation, but not really off of reality. Especially with Baltimore. You don't lose everything they lost, Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, Paul Kruger, Ellerbe, and Anquan Boldin, and not take a step back.

How did Baltimore get worse?

you can argue they got better talent wise. They got younger and more talented.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/ba...fl-pos=defense

look at those ****ing LBers. Suggs and Dumervil with Daryl Smith and Arthur Brown? Smith and Brown are much more athletic and faster than Ray Lewis was last season at the end of his career. Their D-line got better. And they are getting their best CB back from injury who is a top 5 CB in the NFL. And its not like their safety drop off is that bad, they drafted a high prospect at SS and signed Huff, who sucks but still serviceable for that defense.

And the Steelers would have been in the playoffs had the Chiefs not snapped Big Ben in half, they were fine up until that point. A healthy Big Ben will always make that team in a position to have a winning record. The wheels fall off and they lose when hes not playing. The last time the Steelers had a sub .500 record they bounced back with a winning season the following year, cause its a ****ing winning franchise.

Chris Meck 06-28-2013 11:58 AM

The Donkos are NOT that good. I don't think anyone ought to be handing them the division just yet.

Top to bottom, I think KC's roster is better.

DaneMcCloud 06-28-2013 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 9781652)
The Donkos are NOT that good. I don't think anyone ought to be handing them the division just yet.

Top to bottom, I think KC's roster is better.

Denver is likely to win at least eleven games this year, barring catastrophic injury, because of Peyton Manning, Eric Decker, Demaryius Thomas and Wes Welker.

They won't win 13 games this year because the division, especially the Chiefs, have improved but they'll be a double-digit winner and a Super Bowl contender.

Mav 06-28-2013 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9781650)
How did Baltimore get worse?

you can argue they got better talent wise. They got younger and more talented.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/ba...fl-pos=defense

look at those ****ing LBers. Suggs and Dumervil with Daryl Smith and Arthur Brown? Smith and Brown are much more athletic and faster than Ray Lewis was last season at the end of his career. Their D-line got better. And they are getting their best CB back from injury who is a top 5 CB in the NFL. And its not like their safety drop off is that bad, they drafted a high prospect at SS and signed Huff, who sucks but still serviceable for that defense.

And the Steelers would have been in the playoffs had the Chiefs not snapped him in half, they were fine up until that point. A healthy Big Ben will always make that team in a position to have a winning record. The wheels fall off and they lose when hes not playing. The last time the Steelers had a sub .500 record they bounced back with a winning season the following year, cause its a ****ing winning franchise.

well, When you replace reed, and pollard, with a rookie, elam, and Huff, you didn't get better. Webb, has to prove he is healthy. Arthur Brown has proven absolutely NOTHING in the nfl, and how much does daryl smith have left. Yes, Adding dummerville is an upgrade over Kruger. But, they did lose boldin, and he was HUGE for the ravens. He was huge for flacco.

And as for the steelers. They are old, and slow. And they lost their speed on offense with Wallace. Yes, they still have brown, but sanders will be focused on this year. And I just don't trust ben to stay healthy. That is the toughest division in football boss. It wouldn't surprise me if the steelers didn't finish last.

mcaj22 06-28-2013 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 9781652)
The Donkos are NOT that good. I don't think anyone ought to be handing them the division just yet.

Top to bottom, I think KC's roster is better.

they actually have more than one real WR that produces at the NFL level for starters

Mav 06-28-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9781658)
Denver is likely to win at least eleven games this year, barring catastrophic injury, because of Peyton Manning, Eric Decker, Demaryius Thomas and Wes Welker.

They won't win 13 games this year because the division, especially the Chiefs, have improved but they'll be a double-digit winner and a Super Bowl contender.

Its not their offense that is the question mark. To me, its their defense. Their secondary is awful, and losing dummerville, is going to hurt quite a bit. Now they will double team von miller on every play.

DaneMcCloud 06-28-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9781650)
And the Steelers would have been in the playoffs had the Chiefs not snapped Big Ben in half, they were fine up until that point. A healthy Big Ben will always make that team in a position to have a winning record. The wheels fall off and they lose when hes not playing. The last time the Steelers had a sub .500 record they bounced back with a winning season the following year, cause its a ****ing winning franchise.

Rothlisberger is a year older and has always had issues playing 16 games. Mike Wallace is gone. James Harrison is gone. They have no running game. Their defense is suspect and old, especially Polamalu.

Mav 06-28-2013 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9781660)
they actually have more than one real WR that produces at the NFL level for starters

Yeah, their offense with Welker, decker, stokley, Thomas. That's as legit as it gets at receiver.

BigMeatballDave 06-28-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9781660)
they actually have more than one real WR that produces at the NFL level for starters

Thomas and Decker were very average before Manning's showed up.

I'm not worried about Denver doing anything in the post season because of Manning's penchant for shitting himself in the playoffs.

mcaj22 06-28-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9781659)
well, When you replace reed, and pollard, with a rookie, elam, and Huff, you didn't get better. Webb, has to prove he is healthy. Arthur Brown has proven absolutely NOTHING in the nfl, and how much does daryl smith have left. Yes, Adding dummerville is an upgrade over Kruger. But, they did lose boldin, and he was HUGE for the ravens. He was huge for flacco.

And as for the steelers. They are old, and slow. And they lost their speed on offense with Wallace. Yes, they still have brown, but sanders will be focused on this year. And I just don't trust ben to stay healthy. That is the toughest division in football boss. It wouldn't surprise me if the steelers didn't finish last.

The two MLBers they have behind Brown had 79 and 49 tackles respectively last season. So if your argument that Brown is a rookie that produces nothing, they have two MLBers more than capable behind him that have produced in the NFL and are worthy of starting. So either way, they will have okay MLBer play that their stacked OLBers, DL and CBs can mask.


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