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The Franchise 02-17-2021 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15553562)
He's probably going to get a lot more than we can afford but who knows. The cap is a mystery really.

I’d bring him in on a deal that has a low cap hit this year and then his bigger cap hits happen when Clark is off the roster.

The Franchise 02-17-2021 11:06 AM

The only LB that I’m taking in the first round is Owusu-Koramoah. And he won’t be there at #31.

UChieffyBugger 02-17-2021 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15553570)
Luke Kuechly was the 9th pick overall, dude.

Bobby Wagner was a 2nd round pick.

You're just proving my point, so thanks!

How? YOU said picking A LINEBACKER would be a terrible pick...now you're trying to move the sticks? Lol again OK BUDDY!!.

htismaqe 02-17-2021 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15553593)
How? YOU said picking A LINEBACKER would be a terrible pick...now you're trying to move the sticks? Lol again OK BUDDY!!.

You need to learn to read, bro. Not even halfway down the page even...

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
A RB is more valuable than a LB at #31.

A LB is more valuable than a RB at #11.

I would never draft a RB top 15. Vice versa, I would draft a LB there because that's where the blue chippers go. After that though, there's a HUGE drop off in both performance and value.

No, I wouldn't like taking Collins at #31. I think that's a terrible use of resources. That being said, I will be the least of the board's worries if this team takes ANYTHING other than OL with that pick.


penguinz 02-17-2021 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15553593)
How? YOU said picking A LINEBACKER would be a terrible pick...now you're trying to move the sticks? Lol again OK BUDDY!!.

Pretty sure he said picking a LB outside of the top 10 in the first round was a wasted pick for THIS team.

LB's don't cover =>good TE's.

We need DLine and Secondary.

htismaqe 02-17-2021 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 15553597)
Pretty sure he said picking a LB outside of the top 10 in the first round was a wasted pick for THIS team.

LB's don't cover =>good TE's.

We need DLine and Secondary.

That's EXACLTY what I said. He just didn't see it or read it.

Pick a LB in the top 15. That's good value. Otherwise wait until the 2nd or 3rd. There's little value in LB's in the late first. You're likely getting a developmental player there.

UChieffyBugger 02-17-2021 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15553595)
You need to learn to read, bro. Not even halfway down the page even...

Your point remains futile because we're obviously NOT picking top ten...so suggesting you'd "pick one there but not 31" is kind of silly and worthless because we're not likely to pick there in the Mahomes era anyway.

Chief Roundup 02-17-2021 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15553589)
The only LB that I’m taking in the first round is Owusu-Koramoah. And he won’t be there at #31.

This player is being thought of more as a Safety than LB from what I have heard out of the NFL talking heads.

htismaqe 02-17-2021 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15553629)
Your point remains futile because we're obviously NOT picking top ten...so suggesting you'd "pick one there but not 31" is kind of silly and worthless because we're not likely to pick there in the Mahomes era anyway.

So mentioning Luke Kuechly is completely irrelevant, since he was the 9th overall pick.

Good to know.

The Franchise 02-17-2021 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15553653)
This player is being thought of more as a Safety than LB from what I have heard out of the NFL talking heads.

Exactly why I would take him.

UChieffyBugger 02-17-2021 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15553654)
So mentioning Luke Kuechly is completely irrelevant, since he was the 9th overall pick.

Good to know.

Er I said IF A GUY LIKE KURCHLY or Wagner was there (at 31) are you telling me you wouldn't pick them because of your futile notion? That's the point I was making but you clearly couldn't comprehend it. The bottom line is your point was frivolous from the start...period.

htismaqe 02-17-2021 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15553702)
Er I said IF A GUY LIKE KURCHLY or Wagner was there (at 31) are you telling me you wouldn't pick them because of your futile notion? That's the point I was making but you clearly couldn't comprehend it. The bottom line is your point was frivolous from the start...period.

Luke Kuechly wouldn't be there at 31. Guys like him don't fall to 31. JFC dude, you're being ridiculous.

The Franchise 02-17-2021 11:44 AM

OK out of Notre Dame would be the Dirty Dan replacement. He can cover TEs and RBs....but he can also blitz and play the run well.

Too bad he won’t be there.

htismaqe 02-17-2021 11:51 AM

The bottom line is this:

Top flight LB prospects like Kuechly, White, Simmons, and Bush go in the top 15.

After that, the value at LB is outside the first round. Bobby Wagner is the PERFECT example of that.

So by mentioning Kuechly and Wagner, you're proving my point.

Again, I thank you.

BossChief 02-17-2021 11:57 AM

I totally agree that if all things are equal and we can choose between a game changing WR, OL, DE or LB @31, we should probably wait to take a LB and trading down would likely be very wise.

Where I disagree is that LB isn’t a valued position because we only use 2 linebackers the majority of the time.

Like...haven’t you guys seen that glaring weakness against teams with balanced attacks? Spags saw Neimann as our best option in those sets.

Think about that for a moment.

Spags saw a complete liability as our best option for a set we use frequently and some of you don’t see that upgrade as a need worthy of the 31st or even our pick in the second.


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