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DaneMcCloud 06-28-2013 12:05 PM
Anyone penciling in the Pats as a Super Bowl contender hasn't taken into account the loss of Wes Welker and Aaron Hernandez, not to mention Gronkowski's endless health issues.

They've had a terrible defense as of late with no running game. They don't have any one special on the perimeters either offensively or defensively. They might still win the division because the Dolphins and Bills are young (and the Jets are a mess) but I don't see them making much noise in the playoffs, if they get there.

mcaj22 06-28-2013 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9781664)
Rothlisberger is a year older and has always had issues playing 16 games. Mike Wallace is gone. James Harrison is gone. They have no running game. Their defense is suspect and old, especially Polamalu.
I agree, and it would be the team we would be chasing, as the Bengals and Ravens probably have the Steelers outclassed.

I still don't think we can hang with the Colts, who have a WC essentially locked up until the Texans **** up.

DaneMcCloud 06-28-2013 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9781674)
I agree, and it would be the team we would be chasing, as the Bengals and Ravens probably have the Steelers outclassed.

I still don't think we can hang with the Colts, who have a WC essentially locked up until the Texans **** up.
The Ravens and Bengals should be in a dogfight for the division in 2013. If both teams remain healthy, both are virtual locks for the playoffs.

The Texans are a very good team but with improvements to Indy, Tennessee and even Jacksonville, I doubt they'll dominate the division. It really comes down to the changes in Indy, with Arians in Phoenix and Pagano as the head coach.

KCUnited 06-28-2013 12:10 PM
I agree about the Pats falling off in 2013, but they did have a top 10 rushing attack last year.

DaneMcCloud 06-28-2013 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9781674)
I agree, and it would be the team we would be chasing, as the Bengals and Ravens probably have the Steelers outclassed.

I still don't think we can hang with the Colts, who have a WC essentially locked up until the Texans **** up.
The bottom line is this: If the Chiefs win eleven games, they're in the playoffs. Anything less substantially decreases their odds.

ChiefsCountry 06-28-2013 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9781671)
Anyone penciling in the Pats as a Super Bowl contender hasn't taken into account the loss of Wes Welker and Aaron Hernandez, not to mention Gronkowski's endless health issues.
Tom Brady is still the quarterback in New England. Its still safe to pencil them in as a contender.

Rasputin 06-28-2013 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9781644)
What you know about the NFL and football in general could fit in a thimble in the hand of a Barbie Doll.

Nah you are just saying that because you don't agree. If I put on my homer glasses & thought all is well with Alex Smith then we would be agreeing with each other. Isn't that scary?


I don't care what you think of my football knowledge. We don't agree doesn't make me wrong or you wrong until they play & we find out how it all works out this season. I'm rooting for the Chiefs to win a playoff game and hope for a Super Bowl just as much as you, but I have to see it to believe it.

mcaj22 06-28-2013 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9781683)
The Ravens and Bengals should be in a dogfight for the division in 2013. If both teams remain healthy, both are virtual locks for the playoffs.

The Texans are a very good team but with improvements to Indy, Tennessee and even Jacksonville, I doubt they'll dominate the division. It really comes down to the changes in Indy, with Arians in Phoenix and Pagano as the head coach.
I think the Colts are on the rise and will only get better. Isn't it Luck's buddy calling the playbook now. The chemistry is still there. It's his system and the sky is the limit for them.

I dont believe there are any improvements to Tennessee or Jacksonville, two teams that will still be terrible and beat on by good teams next year.

Chris Meck 06-28-2013 12:12 PM
I agree that Denver's weakness is defense. I really think their secondary and LB corps are suspect.

Sandy Vagina 06-28-2013 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9781645)
I am saying this respectfully. A lot of hiner fans that came here because of Alex Smith, aren't saying they are chiefs fans, just hoping that Alex has success. I love Alex Smith. But to a lot of you. That seems CRAZY because hes a mediocre, or shit qb in your eyes. But, you also haven't been cheering for the guy for 8 years, know what he brings other than on the field ability. And that is fine. It is no different than when last year, Robinson Cano got his ass booed reeruned at the home run derby, all because he wouldn't pick Billy Butler. To me, I was like who the hell cares. Billy Butler is a turd. Now that would seem offensive to you......ITs a pity that we as humans cant even empathize a little. Hopefully, Alex Smith does good enough for your team that perhaps one day you will appreciate him the way people appreciate Trent Green. Probably not, but it would be nice. Hes a hell of a person, and not a horrible football player. Just not great.
Agree, minus the probably not bit. If Alex had gone to an already hated team, well then **** him, I say. ( I'd still want success for him, but would not support such teams ) Alex went to KC, and there has always been elements to KC football that I like.

Mav 06-28-2013 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9781669)
The two MLBers they have behind Brown had 79 and 49 tackles respectively last season. So if your argument that Brown is a rookie that produces nothing, they have two MLBers more than capable behind him that have produced in the NFL and are worthy of starting. So either way, they will have okay MLBer play that their stacked OLBers, DL and CBs can mask.
Fair enough. I hope for my browns sake you are wrong lol.

Rasputin 06-28-2013 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 9781691)
I agree that Denver's weakness is defense. I really think their secondary and LB corps are suspect.


I want to see Chump Baily fall flat on his face. Better yet I want to see Dwayne Bowe stiff arm him into the dirt.



**** Chump Baily & the Broncows.

Mav 06-28-2013 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9781698)
Agree, minus the probably not bit. If Alex had gone to an already hated team, well then **** him, I say. ( I'd still want success for him, but would not support such teams ) Alex went to KC, and there has always been elements to KC football that I like.
Yes, there are teams that Alex could of went to that I might of kept an eye on him, but I wouldn't of actively rooted for him to succeed. Here, in Kansas City, I feel he can be a part of something great, and I love the majority of their fan base.

DaneMcCloud 06-28-2013 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9781689)
Nah you are just saying that because you don't agree. If I put on my homer glasses & thought all is well with Alex Smith then we would be agreeing with each other. Isn't that scary?
You're logic is ridiculously flawed.

It has NOTHING to do with being a "Homer". It has to do with the fact that you don't like this move, only because the Chiefs traded for Matt Cassel and Trent Green.

It has NOTHING to do with the fact the there's a new head coach and coaching staff, a new GM and scouting staff and both new offensive and defensive philosophies.

You're just stuck on something that is completely irrelevant and clearly doesn't take into the fact that there was NO ONE available on the free agent market or the draft (despite your undying love for a second round QB that's completely flawed).

You've bought into GoChiefs' flawed narrative. Period.


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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9781689)
I don't care what you think of my football knowledge. We don't agree doesn't make me wrong or you wrong until they play & we find out how it all works out this season.
You were most certainly wrong about how the NFL viewed Geno Smith. Before that gigantic mess, I had absolutely no idea you even existed in this forum.

0-1.

DaneMcCloud 06-28-2013 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9781690)
I think the Colts are on the rise and will only get better. Isn't it Luck's buddy calling the playbook now. The chemistry is still there. It's his system and the sky is the limit for them.

I dont believe there are any improvements to Tennessee or Jacksonville, two teams that will still be terrible and beat on by good teams next year.
Tennessee added LeVitre and Warmack, so if anything, their running game should be improved. Jacksonville has a new coaching staff and defensive philosophy. They may not be much improved in terms of record but they won't likely be a pushover.

Regardless, it's always difficult to sweep your divisional opponents. The Texans, for instance, have never won in Indy.


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