Originally Posted by ViperVisor (Post 9899391)

They got better results with Kaepernick? Not true.

espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/86852/49ers-offensive-drive-info-by-quarterback

2012 49ers Offense by QB

And there is good reason Smith shouldn't even of had those tiny edge in yards and points.

In 5 of Smith's games the team was coasting to W's in the 3rd and 4th Quarters.

Kaepernick it was 2, 2.5
The NE game should of been but there was a string of 3 drives 10 plays and 3 punts by the 49ers late in the game.

The team in the 2nd half was more often needing drives and points to secure wins and the results were no better than boring Alex Smith's read #1, checkdown, eat the sack, Punt, maybe next time.

Originally Posted by themanwithnoname (Post 9898377)

The 49ers had that record. That's the whole point they had that in spite of Smith more than because of him. Hell let me guess you guys are big Tebow fans because "he just won"?

Cassel was dogshit but he still had a couple of good seasons. 11-5 on a loaded Patriots team and 10-6 on an overachieving Chiefs team (I say overachieving but don't feel they really did, that was mostly Charles, Bowe, special teams and a solid defense, yeah that doesn't sound at all like Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, special teams, and a great defense :rolleyes:).

Its not an overreaction about the preseason games you dumbshits, its that its confirming that Alex Smith is exactly the QB rational and logical people knew he is. You people are the only ones trying to argue that Smith is great (well and Dane but he just seems in his mood of being ultra super anti-anything that GoChiefs or whomever is so its obvious he's thrown logic out the window just to argue with him over everything) in spite of a wealth of evidence to the contrary. Alex Smith is different but they'll get the same results they got with Cassel. It will be about Jamaal Charles, special teams, and defense, and limiting how much Smith can limit you. Different partner but same song and dance.

The most positive thing I can say is that Smith should be a barometer for the team. That's if he plays to the best of his ability, which I'm still not sure he will (I expect turnovers when he relies on McCluster as a target that defenses key on him just like they did Cassel). I'm sure Jamaal Charles, special teams, and/or the defense will bail his ass out some games just like they did Cassel (and just the like 49ers did with Smith constantly). But if Alex Smith limits turnovers then he should allow us to see what we really have on the team, much like with Cassel in 2010. Then they need to find a QB solution and move Smith to his natural backup role ASAP, just like the 49ers.

That's also why there's a big concern. A lot of our talent is getting up there in age, so we don't know how much longer they'll be able to maintain their level of play. The 49ers were younger, but the real key is they dumped Alex at basically their first opportunity (and seriously tried before then even), I'm not sure that Reid will. Then what happens when they finally see he sucks and/or Bray or some other development project QB is finally ready to take over, but Albert, Hali, possibly DJ, Charles and Bowe are gone or no longer productive? They'll be able to argue once again how you need a good LT to protect their QB and it'll start the cycle of shit all over again.

Originally Posted by Squatch (Post 9899465)

Hypothetically, I bet Smith throws the fade to Moss who was in one on one coverage on the 4th down play in the Super Bowl.
I think Kaep takes a step back this year.

Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9899476)

Bro. We were down 3 TD's. If Smith is in there the game is over.

I honestly think it's 50-50 with Kaep. But to be honestly I'd like to see him struggle a little bit early in the season. See how he deals with it.

Originally Posted by Squatch (Post 9899480)

I smell the sophomore slump coming.

Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9899482)

I'll put it this way. Last time we had Alex under center against the Ravens he went:

15-24 140 yards and a pick. And he got sacked 9 times.

That team is not a good matchup for him...

Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9899485)

Well it's his third year sooooooo:hmmm:

Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9899482)

I'll put it this way. Last time we had Alex under center against the Ravens he went:

15-24 140 yards and a pick. And he got sacked 9 times.

That team is not a good matchup for him...

Originally Posted by Squatch (Post 9899480)

I smell the sophomore slump coming.

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9899497)

You are forgetting a WHOLE lot of issues with that game.

That was a thanksgiving night game. west coast to east coast.

Adam Snyder was out that game, bruce miller was out that game, and Alex Smiths best play was negated by a touchy frank gore CHOP BLOCK call.

Im all for being honest about Alex Smith, but they ran through Chilo Rachal like xlax threw a fat woman after a trip to an all you can eat buffet

Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9899508)

But I mean what's a slump?

Is he going to lead the NFL in picks? I doubt it.

If you look at his statistics they're good. Not GREAT. Save the playoff game vs GB.

He looks bigger, stronger, the team is solid. I don't see how they miss the playoffs. Maybe the lack of a solid #2 will hurt him early, but Mannigham will be back mid-season. Crab'll be back for the playoffs.

Unless he just completely falls apart I don't see how he regresses (barring injury) I feel that same way about a lot of the young QB's.

Luck
Dalton
RG3
Wilson

Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9899514)

My point was. I don't think against the Ravens I would look to Alex to mount an all-time (almost, ARGGHHH!) great comeback in the SB.

28-3 (Or whatever it was) is a WRAP for Alex.