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Marcellus 01-21-2014 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10384583)
Dude, seriously?

We were upwards of 30M under the cap at some of those times.

I remember a PFT piece that talked about how we had only spent $80M, and how we'd be under the salary floor if it existed that year.

People didn't care about the money because we had a ton of it available to spend. Now we don't - we don't even have the money available to sign our rookie class.

Dorsey is going to have to get very creative and probably make some tough decisions.

The point that seems to be flying over everyone's head is, you never ever say "who gives a shit about the $, pay the guy". Which was a very popular sentiment here not long ago.

It matters, even if at that time you are $30MM under the cap. Now look at the crossroads we are at.

As I stated I was never part of the just pay the man crowd and I am not part of it now. The contract needs to be very reasonable.

Tribal Warfare 01-21-2014 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10384626)
Alex is going to get a new deal this offseason worth a shit ton of money and we'll likely have to let some of our best guys go.

I've come to terms with it. You should as well.

If we do he better play like a Franchise QB who can carry this team, because "good enough" will **** his shit up.

OnTheWarpath15 01-21-2014 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 10384645)
The point that seems to be flying over everyone's head is, you never ever say "who gives a shit about the $, pay the guy". Which was a very popular sentiment here not long ago.

It matters, even if at that time you are $30MM under the cap. Now look at the crossroads we are at.

As I stated I was never part of the just pay the man crowd and I am not part of it now. The contract needs to be very reasonable.

I agree with your overall point, however I don't think any of the contracts Pioli handed out have hurt us.

What's hurting us, IMO is that we haven't drafted worth a shit, so we don't have a lot of players that contribute that are still on their first (and inexpensive) contract.

If we don't start drafting better, this is likely going to be a problem for a while - or, we're going to have to start letting some good players go.

GloryDayz 01-21-2014 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10384583)
Dude, seriously?

We were upwards of 30M under the cap at some of those times.

I remember a PFT piece that talked about how we had only spent $80M, and how we'd be under the salary floor if it existed that year.

People didn't care about the money because we had a ton of it available to spend. Now we don't - we don't even have the money available to sign our rookie class.

Dorsey is going to have to get very creative and probably make some tough decisions.

Stadium upgrade costs self-reimbursement I think.

O.city 01-21-2014 10:27 AM

I think were a little too worried about the cap right now. Someone made a good acknowledgement that we are close to the cap top, but pretty far below the cash cap.

I'd imagine we restructure some thing moving cap to cash to open some stuff up.

O.city 01-21-2014 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10384671)
I agree with your overall point, however I don't think any of the contracts Pioli handed out have hurt us.

What's hurting us, IMO is that we haven't drafted worth a shit, so we don't have a lot of players that contribute that are still on their first (and inexpensive) contract.

If we don't start drafting better, this is likely going to be a problem for a while - or, we're going to have to start letting some good players go.

Agree. While there are some good players under contract 1, we didn't seem to trust/play many of them this year early. I think that's a big reason our d ran out of gas.

Well that and Kendrick Lewis.

It's great to have a loaded draft class perform, but it kinda sucks down the road when the bill comes due. I'm anxious too see what the Seahawks and 9era do with all that young talent.

Like Hamas said though, it just like baseball, you win with young cost controlled talent


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