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'Hamas' Jenkins 06-30-2019 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14328661)
How am I deflecting and trying to save face? You’re saying it’s accurate that Reid has no discipline over his players or family and a very poor record. I’m saying that nobody has a perfect record as a parent or coach, so what makes Reid anymore of a failure as a parent/coach?

His very poor record.

Molitoth 06-30-2019 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 14328751)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I see that Kevin Kaepernick has been fired by 810. Intent matters. Unless someone more powerful than you gets offended... Then it&#39;s irrelevant. The mob in KC wins again. That&#39;s what justice in KC looks like. Mob justice. Have fun rooting for a woman beater.</p>&mdash; Teej (@TJCarpenterShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/TJCarpenterShow/status/1144708353932722176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TJ, is shitting himself

This ****ing douche.

ChiefsCountry 06-30-2019 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 14328751)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I see that Kevin Kaepernick has been fired by 810. Intent matters. Unless someone more powerful than you gets offended... Then it&#39;s irrelevant. The mob in KC wins again. That&#39;s what justice in KC looks like. Mob justice. Have fun rooting for a woman beater.</p>&mdash; Teej (@TJCarpenterShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/TJCarpenterShow/status/1144708353932722176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TJ, is shitting himself

Shock jock going fishing and morons are taking the bait.

staylor26 06-30-2019 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14328955)
His very poor record.

So here we are again where you told me I was deflecting for calling you out on being a judgmental piece of shit.

By “very poor record” what you really mean is he’s not ****ing perfect like you and you’re ignoring every success story and the fact that he has 3 other children with no issues. You’re placing blame on him for the actions of adults. How is it a parents fault that their adult sons were addicts? One of his sons got addicted to pain killers after suffering an injury. How the **** is that Reid’s fault?

Making any kind of judgment means you think you know what went on in their household and how Reid was directly responsible when you have no ****ing clue.

staylor26 06-30-2019 08:37 AM

Also what is Reid’s very poor record as a HC?

I’d like to see a list of all the failures if you’re going to make that claim, and no Tyreek isn’t for sure one of them as it appears there’s a lot more to that story than any of us know and he could be completely innocent.

And Kareem Hunt doesn’t really qualify either as the guy had no issues whatsoever before he was drafted. I don’t see how you can put that on Reid unless you expect him to be responsible for what all his players do when they’re on their own time.

Those two guys are where this narrative is coming from because before that Reid had a pretty good track record.

Plenty of guys with issues that he gave chances to ended up completely fine like Kelce, DJax, Vick, Demarcus Robinson, etc. but yea “very poor record” :rolleyes:

patteeu 06-30-2019 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14328968)
So here we are again where you told me I was deflecting for calling you out on being a judgmental piece of shit.

By “very poor record” what you really mean is he’s not ****ing perfect like you and you’re ignoring every success story and the fact that he has 3 other children with no issues. You’re placing blame on him for the actions of adults. How is it a parents fault that their adult sons were addicts? One of his sons got addicted to pain killers after suffering an injury. How the **** is that Reid’s fault?

Making any kind of judgment means you think you know what went on in theirs household and how Reid was directly responsible when you have no ****ing clue.

It's pretty indisputable that Andy Reid was an absentee father due to the demands of his job. It's a matter of opinion about how that affected his kids. To the extent that Hamas has judged in this thread (as opposed to recognizing the basis on which KK's judgment rests), it seemed pretty reasonable and measured.

staylor26 06-30-2019 08:55 AM

Does Bill Belichick have a “very poor record” as a HC?

The Chiefs have the same amount of arrests in the last 5 years.

Did he fail with Aaron Hernandez, Chandler Jones, and Josh Gordon? Brady and Edelman’s suspensions?

That’s why this is silly. You can do this with any HC that’s coached for over a decade.

Sure-Oz 06-30-2019 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 14328751)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I see that Kevin Kaepernick has been fired by 810. Intent matters. Unless someone more powerful than you gets offended... Then it&#39;s irrelevant. The mob in KC wins again. That&#39;s what justice in KC looks like. Mob justice. Have fun rooting for a woman beater.</p>— Teej (@TJCarpenterShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/TJCarpenterShow/status/1144708353932722176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



TJ, is shitting himself

What a db...he followed that with some Kansas City sucks tweets as usual. KC is his one that got away and he is so bitter.

unlurking 06-30-2019 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 14328092)
I see. For the purpose of my posts in this thread, I consider CP social media. It's just a less efficient form (less reach) than the facebooks and twitters.

I hope you're just explaining your primary concern and not suggesting fluidity on my part.

Ahh, I see. And not at all. You're recent posts were just vocal and not as argumentative as much of the back and forth here, so thought I'd question.

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Hammock Parties 06-30-2019 12:33 PM

pat mahomes liked shaggy's FB post about us destroying kietzman LMAO

https://i.imgur.com/R6TbXnZ.gif

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-30-2019 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14328968)
So here we are again where you told me I was deflecting for calling you out on being a judgmental piece of shit.

By “very poor record” what you really mean is he’s not ****ing perfect like you and you’re ignoring every success story and the fact that he has 3 other children with no issues. You’re placing blame on him for the actions of adults. How is it a parents fault that their adult sons were addicts? One of his sons got addicted to pain killers after suffering an injury. How the **** is that Reid’s fault?

Making any kind of judgment means you think you know what went on in their household and how Reid was directly responsible when you have no ****ing clue.

By very poor record I mean having two children arrested in separate incidents on the same day, having one of them OD on the grounds of the workplace, picking up a woman-beating WR who later had his kid taken away by Child Family Services because said child was not in a safe living situation, picking up guys like Justin Cox, who was previously a woman beater then did it again, or Roy Miller. Then there's Kareem Hunt, who had three different violent incidents in six months after having issues in college, then lied to the team about what he did.

That's a pretty shitty record.

Frazod 06-30-2019 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 14328751)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I see that Kevin Kaepernick has been fired by 810. Intent matters. Unless someone more powerful than you gets offended... Then it&#39;s irrelevant. The mob in KC wins again. That&#39;s what justice in KC looks like. Mob justice. Have fun rooting for a woman beater.</p>&mdash; Teej (@TJCarpenterShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/TJCarpenterShow/status/1144708353932722176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TJ, is shitting himself

LMAO Butthurt Denver douche. Let the hate flow, little fella!

His video whining about the Donx is priceless.

staylor26 06-30-2019 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14329241)
By very poor record I mean having two children arrested in separate incidents on the same day, having one of them OD on the grounds of the workplace, picking up a woman-beating WR who later had his kid taken away by Child Family Services because said child was not in a safe living situation, picking up guys like Justin Cox, who was previously a woman beater then did it again, or Roy Miller. Then there's Kareem Hunt, who had three different violent incidents in six months after having issues in college, then lied to the team about what he did.

That's a pretty shitty record.

Adult children. Stop talking like they were kids. They were both over 21. How is Reid supposed to control his adult children?

We have no idea what Tyreek did or didn’t do. There’s a lot of smoke that there’s a ton of evidence in his favor. Just because you think he’s guilty of something doesn’t mean he is.

What issues did Kareem Hunt have in college other than a small suspension that we have no clue what it was for? You’re completely talking out of your ass here if you’re trying to say he had “issues in college”.

And Roy Miller/Justin Cox? That is a HUGE ****ing reach considering one was an UDFA that never played a down for the team and the other was an 8 year veteran with no history that was immediately cut.

And don’t avoid my question about Belichick? Does he also have a “very poor record”? Because we can play this game with him as well as any coach that has coached for over a decade.

RunKC 06-30-2019 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14328993)
Does Bill Belichick have a “very poor record” as a HC?

The Chiefs have the same amount of arrests in the last 5 years.

Did he fail with Aaron Hernandez, Chandler Jones, and Josh Gordon? Brady and Edelman’s suspensions?

That’s why this is silly. You can do this with any HC that’s coached for over a decade.

This is being more speculated here because we had a player kill his gf and then off himself at the training complex, then 4 years later we drafted a player who punched/choked his pregnant gf.

It’s also because of Andy. This isn’t the first time he has been in the spotlight for bad PR due to his players.


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