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Marcellus 08-23-2013 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9908800)
There was a time where it made more difference, if that makes any sense, because the gap between them and the rest was so large and they were that good
I would say the rule changes making things tougher on defenses to cover the WR and the inability to touch the QB without a flag making defenses less aggressive has leveled things off some.

Setsuna 08-23-2013 02:14 PM
Our boy be startin tomorrow! PBJ

9er guy 08-23-2013 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9908789)
It's never been that way.
This. This whole "elite QB" thing is kind of silly to me TBH.

Mav 08-23-2013 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9908833)
This. This whole "elite QB" thing is kind of silly to me TBH.
The hottest team always wins, and usually the team that is the most complete wins....

Brock 08-23-2013 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9908735)
He's not putting up elite numbers. I'd be surprised if he puts up 4100 yards and 27 touchdowns.

He's a very good QB, but I don't think he'll ever be "elite". In my mind, elite is top 5. I don't think Flacco in his career will ever be a top 5 QB.
Imo, he's still growing. It's still an open question.

9er guy 08-23-2013 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9908845)
Imo, he's still growing. It's still an open question.
I agree. I just think he has to keep getting into the tournament, and the elite/legacy stuff will take care of itself.

Setsuna 08-23-2013 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9907966)
That's going to be tough to do when we win 10 games and make the playoffs.
Oh and you're delusional to the point of being unable to function in society.

9er guy 08-23-2013 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Clayton Bibsby (Post 9908850)
Oh and you're delusional to the point of being unable to function in society.
It could happen.

BigCatDaddy 08-23-2013 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9908601)
It hasn't been that long has it?

4 years and 3 years respectively.
Well yeah for us Chief fans that's like a million bazillion years ago.

Mav 08-23-2013 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9908849)
I agree. I just think he has to keep getting into the tournament, and the elite/legacy stuff will take care of itself.
He is going to have to have better numbers than he ever has.

Nothing they did last night in their dress rehearsal suggested other wise. They are really hurt at receiver right now.....

Marcellus 08-23-2013 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Clayton Bibsby (Post 9908850)
Oh and you're delusional to the point of being unable to function in society.

This from the village idiot. :LOL:

Molitoth 08-23-2013 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9907973)
I really don't get why many are so butthurt at the 49ers fans here. So long as it wasn't division rivals or the Cowpukes, we all enjoyed having other team's fans visit the 49ers forum and talk it up. Why are KC fans so miserable and xenophobic? Must be the Patriots/Cassell thing, for the most part, I guess.

If you just talk straight football and be decent human beings, then there would be no issue at all. I'm telling you... you are creating your own misery.
*Yes, This is the exact same shit we heard from NE fans when Cassel came.
*We are butt-hurt over not drafting and developing a valid QB since Todd Blackledge.

There are fans from other teams that are respected on this forum.
Broncos, Chargers, Seahawks, and Rams to name a few.

Kaepernick 08-23-2013 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9908752)
In today's nfl, IMO, you don't necessarily have to have an elite qb to win SBs like it once was. The gap between the elite and the good, isn't as big as it once was, and said "good" players have the ability to play at an elite level.
Welp, time to post the list again.


Joe Flacco - Near Elite
Eli Manning - Near Elite
Aaron Rodgers - Elite
Drew Brees - Elite
Ben Roethlisberger -Near Elite
Eli Manning - Near Elite
Peyton Manning - Elite
Ben Roethlisberger -Near Elite
Tom Brady - Elite
Tom Brady - Elite
Brad Johnson - Above average
Tom Brady - Elite
Trent Dilfer - Game Manager
Kurt Warner - Elite
John Elway - Elite
John Elway - Elite
Brett Farve - Elite
Troy Aikman - Elite
Steve Young - Elite
Troy Aikman - Elite
Troy Aikman - Elite
Mark Rypien - Above average
Jeff Hostetler - Game Manager
Joe Montana - Elite
Joe Montana - Elite

9er guy 08-23-2013 03:45 PM
I don't know if Aikman was an elite QB. He never threw for more than around 3400 yards.

He was a great player on some all-time great teams.

But I guess he's a HOFer now, so that could retrospectively make him an elite QB.

Hammock Parties 08-23-2013 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9909067)
I don't know if Aikman was an elite QB. He never threw for more than around 3400 yards.

He was a great player on some all-time great teams.

But I guess he's a HOFer now, so that could retrospectively make him an elite QB.
He never had to because that team almost always had an elite running game.

He could make every throw with phenomenal velocity and accuracy, and had a disgustingly awesome deep ball.


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