Originally Posted by ghak99 (Post 17484474)

Technically doesn't matter. Talk with locals. The plans were very much a part of the vote.

We want to do this. Well, we might do that. Shit that won't work, maybe we'll do this. Damn you're mad, we'll do this instead. Look at these pictures! Shit, people are really pissed now. We'll leave that street. Maybe we can do this instead. This went on right up to the day of the vote. It was pure ignorance. The owner's perceived IQ and trustworthiness declined nearly every time he spoke about anything having to do with the stadium plans.

The Chiefs probably had no interest in doing so, but he'd have been better off letting them take the point while shutting up and sending his wife on a months long vacation without access to social media. A picture of a new stadium design with a "we hope to relocate to downtown at some point in the future" would have prevented him from now being ranked right up there with Frank White on the totem pole of city losers.

The idiot simply couldn't read the room's "post property tax debacle" mood.

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17484475)

It is very clear that Sherman is a complete dipshit after this debacle. So something concrete did come out of this whole process

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 17484465)

It's a sales tax. Anyone who comes to the stadium and buys anything is paying for it. It's not like it is an icrease to real estate taxes just for Jackson County residents. Be for or against the continuation of this tax, I don't really give a shit, but don't act like Jackson County voters are the only ones paying the tax and don't act like it is a huge burden on any taxpayers.

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17484475)

It is very clear that Sherman is a complete dipshit after this debacle. So something concrete did come out of this whole process

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 17484465)

It's a sales tax. Anyone who comes to the stadium and buys anything is paying for it. It's not like it is an icrease to real estate taxes just for Jackson County residents. Be for or against the continuation of this tax, I don't really give a shit, but don't act like Jackson County voters are the only ones paying the tax and don't act like it is a huge burden on any taxpayers.

Originally Posted by ghak99 (Post 17484483)

Just imagine the Chiefs meeting directly after the Royals/Chiefs meeting where Clark Hunt realized what kind of an idiot he was paired with. He comes off as such a scripted dork most of the time, but I'd bet he had some entertaining comments.

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 17484491)

Jackson county voters are paying the majority of the tax because it applies to our daily lives. Not simply visits to the stadium that outsiders might make a handful of times per year. Residents are paying that tax every single day and it applies to the majority of what we purchase.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17484470)

You still pay far more if you live in that county, it's not like someone from Johnson county is buy their ****ing groceries in Jackson county.

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 17484540)

It's still under $100/year for a Jackson County resident and in most cases well under that amount. Anyone who is against it just needs to stop using the amount of money being asked for as an excuse for voting "no."

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 17484491)

Jackson county voters are paying the majority of the tax because it applies to our daily lives. Not simply visits to the stadium that outsiders might make a handful of times per year. Residents are paying that tax every single day and it applies to the majority of what we purchase.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17484542)

It was a terrible proposal was it not?

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 17484543)

Fish, the money is inconsequential to the overwhelming majority of Jackson County voters. Stop referring to the money as a reason to vote "no."

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 17484552)

$2B in taxpayer money is not inconsequential by any measure. Especially considering us taxpayers would have had zero input on how any of that amount was to be spent.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17484536)

And paying 38 cents for every $100 sale was going to break people? What exactly would people have been ok with paying if it meant keeping the teams in the city?