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Hammock Parties 07-24-2013 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9831356)
You don't need to throw 4 TD's to win games Clay.

I'm a Chiefs fan, I'm acutely aware of that fact.

RunKC 07-24-2013 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 9831353)
I said the Vikings win more games and all you have to do is go back to last year to see this. You prop up your single SB victory that happened back in 1969. You weren't even alive back then.

Don't care about last year. Training camp starts for us today. It's 2013. New and much improved overall team.

Facts are still facts though. We have 1 SB (beating them) and they have nothing.

Ace Gunner 07-24-2013 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 9831256)
I need a rocket up my ass to catch that one, Matt.

you heard my call for back up :thumb:

watching MC play QB is like looking at a Jackson Pollock piece.

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chiefzilla1501 07-24-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9831351)
So they weren't near the bottom of the league, like us?

Got it.

The Chiefs were a top 15 yards and points defense two years straight before romeo took charge and everyone played lazy. Forget scheme, this team is going to play with a hell of a lot more energy and discipline than in 2012. And the talent is probably much better than what they had in 2011.

Tombstone RJ 07-24-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9831362)
Don't care about last year. Training camp starts for us today. It's 2013. New and much improved overall team.

Facts are still facts though. We have 1 SB (beating them) and they have nothing.

16 playoff appearances in 53 years! That sucks. Zero playoff wins since 1993. 20 years without a playoff win. The Vikings may not be the poster boy team for the NFL, but they sure don't set the suckfest record for inept NFL franchises the way your turd team does.

Hammock Parties 07-24-2013 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9831366)
The Chiefs were a top 15 yards and points defense two years straight before romeo took charge and everyone played lazy.

And people were crediting Romeo for our defensive improvement during those years. LMAO

This team didn't suck last year because of lack of effort. We lack talent up front, period.

You're banking on a coach Jets fans were happy to get rid of as making the difference this year using a bunch of crappy defensive linemen and questionable CBs.

Mav 07-24-2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9831144)
Scheme is not tripling the amount of pressure we get from our DL.

Uh? Yeah sure, being more pressure constant as a defense, in no way going to lead to more pressure from your d line. Do you even understand what you said.....Of course the defensive line is going to get more pressure. They aren't going to be double teamed every play.....holy shit clay.
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9831260)
He doesn't. He has a funky release where he drops the ball down way too low. There's a weird windup.

It's not close to the ideal release.

Did you even READ the entire article? If you scroll to the very bottom, it is clearly stating the difference between, 2011, AND 2012. Alex pretty much fixed all of those problems, including the dreaded knee lock he had.

His Mechanics at this point, are pretty much flawless as a qb goes.

chiefzilla1501 07-24-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9831386)
And people were crediting Romeo for our defensive improvement during those years. LMAO

This team didn't suck last year because of lack of effort. We lack talent up front, period.

You're banking on a coach Jets fans were happy to get rid of as making the difference this year using a bunch of crappy defensive linemen and questionable CBs.

No I'm not banking on it. Like I said, if Sutton knows the scheme. It's possible he is terrible. I like the scheme but a big wait and see on the coordinator.

But in terms of talent, we have solid enough talent with a few terrific players. And they absolutely did play lazy and undisciplined last year and it's because romeo is the worst motivational coach in the Nfl. He can coordinate, but he sure as shit can't get players to play.I can guarantee you at tthe very least that Hali, DJ, flowers, and hopefully berry look like completely different players and that will be less a credit to Reid and Sutton as it is an insult to romeo.

Hammock Parties 07-24-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9831422)
Uh? Yeah sure, being more pressure constant as a defense, in no way going to lead to more pressure from your d line. Do you even understand what you said.....Of course the defensive line is going to get more pressure. They aren't going to be double teamed every play.....holy shit clay.

These guys can't beat blocks one on one. They showed that much last year. And DeVito is not a pass rusher.

I'm more concerned about the run defense because we have no one on our line like Pouha and I don't think Poe is the answer. If Poe and Jackson are getting pushed around, it's going to be a disaster.

mcaj22 07-24-2013 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9831589)
No I'm not banking on it. Like I said, if Sutton knows the scheme. It's possible he is terrible. I like the scheme but a big wait and see on the coordinator.

But in terms of talent, we have solid enough talent with a few terrific players. And they absolutely did play lazy and undisciplined last year and it's because romeo is the worst motivational coach in the Nfl. He can coordinate, but he sure as shit can't get players to play.I can guarantee you at tthe very least that Hali, DJ, flowers, and hopefully berry look like completely different players and that will be less a credit to Reid and Sutton as it is an insult to romeo.

why would Hali, DJ, Flowers and Berry look completely different? There is no where to go really for those guys, they are top players at their positions and they are all Pro Bowl caliber. There is no "difference" that they can get better or make. They are the model for consistent talent no matter who the coach is

if you say you wanna see a guy like Dontari Poe, Sean Smith, Tyson Jackson, Allen Bailey, Kendrick Lewis take the next step and look "completely" different, THEN its a credit to Reid and Sutton

but to take our only talent and household names and say, well if they play good this year its the coaches credit. Those guys have been playing good since they all entered the league no matter what shit coach or coordinators we have why would this year be any different.

Mav 07-24-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9831599)
These guys can't beat blocks one on one. They showed that much last year. And DeVito is not a pass rusher.

I'm more concerned about the run defense because we have no one on our line like Pouha and I don't think Poe is the answer. If Poe and Jackson are getting pushed around, it's going to be a disaster.

Now that, I can agree with. But that hasn't been your argument. The run defense is something to be concerned about. The pass rush isn't in my opinion. They are going to get pressure on the qb. That much is certain. Personnel dictates that.

BossChief 07-24-2013 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9831209)
so, nine seasons is the same as four seasons. ok. got it. and craters of the moon are actually on the moon, not in idaho.

Math much?

Matt Cassel has played 5 seasons
Alex Smith has played 7 seasons

They were drafted the same year.

Mr. Laz 07-24-2013 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9831364)
you heard my call for back up :thumb:

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well ... when you talk about sticking rockets and things up your ass you are bound to get tombstone's attention. That's they way he rolls.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-24-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 9831334)
Well, let's look at the facts:

Both teams started in 1960. Since the merger of the AFL and NFL, KC has won 1 SB while the Vikings have not won a SB (however they have appeared in 3 SBs). Aside from this one statistic, the Vikings compare favorable to the chiefs: The Vikings have 4 Conference championships, the chiefs have ZERO. The Vikings have 18 Division championships while the chiefs have 8 (that's 10 more for the Vikings, in case you didn't notice). The Vikings have 27 playoff appearances while kc has 16 playoff appearances.

You are one dumb sumbitch.

Tombstone RJ 07-24-2013 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9831872)
You are one dumb sumbitch.

Coming from you that's a compliment.


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