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duncan_idaho 04-26-2023 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16916575)
He's not really warranted much at this point. The guy has a career .724 ops and terribledefensive metrics. We act like he's a superstar because we are projecting but what if he's just Jeff Francoer?

Focus on locking up Vinnie, who for some reason will be much cheaper.

If I was Witt Id capitalize on this funny idea that for some reason ppl think hes an elite baseball player and accept whatever big deal I can get.


Focus should be on locking up both.

It’s only 25 games, but his defensive numbers are improved this year, and he’s pacing for a 25 HR/30 SB season.

His offensive numbers have paced up just slightly, but the version of him right now is similar to prime Ian Desmond, who was a valuable guy for the first half of his career.

I see a guy who, for the most part, is taking better at-bats and being more selective at the dish. I think there still is upside with the bat.

There still is potential for him to do more. There’s good reason for an extension for both sides.

lewdog 04-26-2023 06:55 AM

Winning streak is coming!!!!

Dartgod 04-26-2023 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 16916679)
Winning streak is coming!!!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECOftj8U...jpg&name=small

Prison Bitch 04-26-2023 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16914073)



Royals pitchers need to wear this on the mound, for safety reasons

PHOG 04-26-2023 08:32 AM

Well, it is nice to see Singer have a good game. Hope his slow start is behind him.

DJ's left nut 04-26-2023 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16916346)
They just optioned Taj Bradley to AAA


And for good reason: he was only 3-0 with a 3.52 era in 15ip. Only has 23k

But leave it to the Rays to have a plan.

They're doing it because they intended to have him up at some point as part of a 6-man rotation. The Springs injury blew that plan apart. So with him presently being on a 6-day schedule, they're looking to get him back to 5 days. So he'll probably miss a couple of turns to make sure he can get his throwing program lined out and then be back by Mid-late May as part of the rotation.

Because the Rays are just pretty damn smart.

DJ's left nut 04-26-2023 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 16916477)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It doesn’t really matter what the Rays say. They are manipulating service time with Taj Bradley.</p>&mdash; Chris Clegg (@RotoClegg) <a href="https://twitter.com/RotoClegg/status/1650934166333145088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

We'll see if they keep him down through mid-June.

Because they already had him in AAA long enough to retain the extra year of service time. So the only question would end up being if you could salvage a Super 2 season out of it and get a 4th year of arb.

And even THAT doesn't really matter for the Rays because they'll either extend him long-term prior to his arb years or they'll trade him with a couple years of service time left anyway.

It's always the gut reaction, but there's little practical reason to believe it's the case here.

lewdog 04-26-2023 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 16916478)
Yes, thank you for that

Bro still threw out a first pitch to 5K people

Dude, if the Royals win today you are required to hit the road to Minnesota for the next series!

KCUnited 04-26-2023 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 16916849)
Dude, if the Royals win today you are required to hit the road to Minnesota for the next series!

I've attended my one game this season, no need for them win any more

BWillie 04-26-2023 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16916593)
Focus should be on locking up both.

It’s only 25 games, but his defensive numbers are improved this year, and he’s pacing for a 25 HR/30 SB season.

His offensive numbers have paced up just slightly, but the version of him right now is similar to prime Ian Desmond, who was a valuable guy for the first half of his career.

I see a guy who, for the most part, is taking better at-bats and being more selective at the dish. I think there still is upside with the bat.

There still is potential for him to do more. There’s good reason for an extension for both sides.

Definitely but if we offered 40M for 10 years to Witt Jr wouldn't he sign it in a heartbeat? It would be a terrible move to turn that down and it would be terrible for the Royals to offer it. Maybe there is something much more reasonablein the middle which I would not expect Witt to sign.

400M for 10 is laughable at this point and if he is just Jeff Francoer would be the worst extension in the history of baseball. Such a contract would be one of the riskiest contracts ever.

If anybody has leverage to get a deal it is Witt Jr. He has all the advantages on his side, perception, youth despite proven results yet. Has all the potential in the world but will he ever get there?

On the flip side, Vinnie deal would be much easier and cheaper. Hes older, less perceived upside since he simply wasn't a big draft pick. While doesn't have defensive flexibility we know he will produce. And much less risky based on the dollars he would demand.

WhawhaWhat 04-26-2023 10:26 AM

https://i.redd.it/wahbuvjmm8wa1.jpg

Sassy Squatch 04-26-2023 10:43 AM

LMAO Holy shit, didn't even notice the As at first. But they are deliberately tanking so you kind of need to ignore them anyway when evaluating performance. Royals are just ****ing trash this year.

lewdog 04-26-2023 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 16916963)

There's not much optimism there.

Oh wait.....lots of the balls are being hit hard!!!

DJ's left nut 04-26-2023 11:18 AM

At least the Royals aren't so far off the scale that they're easy to overlook like Oakland.

duncan_idaho 04-26-2023 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16916939)
Definitely but if we offered 40M for 10 years to Witt Jr wouldn't he sign it in a heartbeat? It would be a terrible move to turn that down and it would be terrible for the Royals to offer it. Maybe there is something much more reasonablein the middle which I would not expect Witt to sign.

400M for 10 is laughable at this point and if he is just Jeff Francoer would be the worst extension in the history of baseball. Such a contract would be one of the riskiest contracts ever.

If anybody has leverage to get a deal it is Witt Jr. He has all the advantages on his side, perception, youth despite proven results yet. Has all the potential in the world but will he ever get there?

On the flip side, Vinnie deal would be much easier and cheaper. Hes older, less perceived upside since he simply wasn't a big draft pick. While doesn't have defensive flexibility we know he will produce. And much less risky based on the dollars he would demand.

It would make sense to do something like 6/$100 with incentives to $120M for Pasquantino.

Witt would probably want something north of that but south of JRod's extension. 6/120? 8/$160?


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