I thought the new CBA quashed hold outs.

The defense hasn't missed a beat without Flowers. Suggesting moving a player to improve other aspects of the team makes me dumb?

This place melted down when we didn't draft geno smith too.

Truth be told Carr isn't worth 50 million and the defense in dallas isn't that great. The chiefs are the best in the league.

The fact is if you can improve your team by making a move you do it.

Which guys below make the team better than Flowers?


Rodger Saffold
Chris Cook
Dexter McCluster
Nate Allen
TJ Ward
Arrelious Benn
Koa Misi
Torrell Troup
Rob Gronkowski
Sergio Kindle
Lamarr Houston
Zane Beadles
Linval Joseph
Daryl Washington
Jimmy Clausen
Taylor Mays
Javier Arenas
Toby Gerhart
Jason Worilds
Jermaine Cunningham
Carlos Dunlap
Sean Lee
Mike Neal
Terrence Cody
Ben Tate
Montario Hardesty
Golden Tate
Vladimir Ducasse
Patrick Angerer
Charles Brown

This is ridiculous to make a statement like that based on ONE GAME. Was Flowers ever supposed to be the difference maker against that Raiders offense??

Wait till we face the Broncos without Flowers and Welker rapes us... wait till Sean Smith has a couple of bad games a bit later this year.

Can't think of one good reason this thread is longer than one page.

because people like to hear themselves talk, err, type

Hell no.

Flowers is a proven commodity and will help against Denver.
He is the perfect slot CB when healthy. In a passing league nickle CBs stay on the field like 60% of the time or more. He has a lot of value for us.

It hasn't been just 1 game.

Well you are cherry picking here but to answer your question:

Rob Gronkowski and Dunlap. You could make a case for several others like Ben Tate since we don't have a back up to Jamaal Charles.

Yeah me either its not like this is a place to talk football.

I just picked a draft that guys had a chance to establish themselves a bit. 2010 was the first and only one that I've looked at.

Gronk is the only guys you can say for sure would offer more than Flowers at this point. No way on Dunlap and a backup RB or a top 10 CB? Serious?

I don't know if any of these guys make the team much better.

Yeah, the point was you have about a 10% chance at best of finding a comparable player. A bird in the hand and all that jazz.

Just looked at 09. It's about the same. 3-4 guys that catch your eye and McCoy is the Gronk of that class.

Yeah, but it's right up there with making a thread titled: "Is Cassel the best QB to ever play the game?"

Could it be discussed? Sure...but why?