Oh no. I heard you. I was just trying to give you some context of what the spitter went through thanks to the actions of this silly gash.

Heh. I wonder what kind of brand he used.

Article 3 of the Constitution thus provides that treason shall consist only in levying war against the United States or in giving aid and comfort to its enemies.

Considering that a large part of the NV strategy was to fight a tw-front war (one in Vietnam and one with the anti-war folks in the USA), I'd argue that she met the second criteria.

Hmm, perhaps you are right. I guess it just depends how "comfort" is defined.

Anyway, I'm out -- got shit to do. Been a good discussion. As always, I respect all of you guys opinions and any disagreement is in no way personal!

Thanks for the good debate. :)

This has the makings of a "Who's on first?" parody.

I once convinced a really hot, but unbelievably stupid, gal in HS that the stop signs with the white borders around them were optional/yield signs. She figured it out after the second ticket.

"They ALL have white borders!!!"

IIRC, I mentioned this story on CP once. Hence, my question.

Like I said, she was (and almost certainly still is) unbelievably stupid. I'm talking about a level of stupidity bordering on not being able to walk and breathe at the same time.

Man if he said.. That will be a great ad for some tobacco company...

The guy that spat on her was no doubt outraged by the governments lack of action on this issue so he used as violent of a deed as he could perform without sacrificing years of his life in prison to do so. Given this understanding of how the man feels do you condone what he did?

No. I hope this question is a joke, and you don't really think it's okay for any man to take the law into his own hands and serve up whatever punishment he thinks is fair. That's called a lack of control in my mind.

If I'm pissed that OJ was aquitted does that give me a right to knock the dude out if I see him? If I think Natalie Maine should have been reprimaned by the government for her comments, do I get to shoot a blowdart at her from my fourth row seats? If I'm annoyed that the Kansas marriage ammendement passed, does it give me to spit on those who voted for it and call them ignorant homophobes? If I don't think Bush should have been going after Saddamm, does it give me the right to murder him? If I'm pissed that a registered sex offender is living in the house behind me, do I have the right to cut his dick off?

Sorry, but you don't have the right to take the law into your own hands, no matter how much you'd like to. Please don't tell me you agree with vigilante justice by anyone who deems it necessary.

Not much of a parallel between those situations and a Vietnam vet spitting tobacco juice on a communist sympathizer. It's not murder or castration, and not letting Bob and Earl enjoy marital privileges isn't exactly committing treason.

First of all, we all know the Kansas marraige ammendment will affect a lot more hetrosexual couples than gay ones. But that's another thread, too.

You picked two of my examples, took them out of context, and totally ignored the point. The point is, it's not okay for someone to take the law into their own hands just because they think the justice system didn't do it's job.

Are ya with me, or not?

I think the rub is in two different ideas of the term 'condone.'
If you do not absolve the man for spitting, do you at least empathize?

I too, do not absolve, but I have to admit I empathize.

I refuse to read all of this, thought about it and decided nada..........Dartgod I didn't mean to pick you but after a few of what I read I just stopped and hit your response.

My question/questions.........As a born again Christian ( Jane Fonda ) is forgiven by whom I count is the only one that matters.....Again, Dartgod it is not you that I am pointing out, please understand.

What she did was wrong........hurtful............you name it. It happened. She knows that now, but she stands by what she feels is right at this time. Haven't we all done things and said things we wish we could take back? (Here)? :shake::shake: Give the lady a break.........Finally we as a Nation USA are finally giving our vets what they should have gotten during and after the war. To hold bitterness that many years and not see what finally is coming to them finally is wrong.

You have to have forgiveness to move on, I see from this articale this man has not reached that point. I stand behind all vets!!! I am finally thankful that the vietnam vets are getting what they deserved~

Sorry for the rant........but all people.......the Vietman vets deserve their rights and finally it happened.:thumb: But so does Jane Fonda.< Forgivness

Yeah, I empathize. I lived in Topeka for 10 years. Every time I saw that **** Fred Phelps on my street corners I had fantasies of running his bigoted ass right over. But, I know better -- it's not my job to punish him for what I think are crimes.

So sure, I empathize. I understand why he wanted to do it. But still, he shouldn't have.

I'll respect the social compact or whatever you choose to call it. The parallel between the situations you mentioned is what got my skirt up.