Originally Posted by Chiefnj

I've got to say that I think Marty had a fair amount of input on those early draft successes. He's gone on to have good drafts with other teams as well. Rufus will disagree, but I think Marty has a pretty decent eye for defensive talent.

Originally Posted by Coogs

I have not read this whole thread, and am not going to. But I think our team mirrors Tampa Bay to a degree. Tampa Bay gave up a boat load of picks to get Gruden, and is now paying the price due to not having top draft picks for a couple of years. But at least they did win the SB for their efforts.

We, on the other hand, gave up a 2nd and a 3rd for DV. And don't get me wrong, I like DV. But I think our overall talent is hurting a bit because of those draft picks.

Originally Posted by SideWinder

I think it's pretty well known that I'm a diehard Marty basher, and even I wouldn't disagree with you regarding Marty's eye for defensive talent.

Marty has other issues that have him on his way to winning more games without an appearence in a League Championship (not to be confused with Conference Championship) than any other coach in NFL history.

Originally Posted by TRR

To clarify again, I believe Peterson has struggled at GM. However, placing 100% of the blame on Peterson isn't fair IMHO. Peterson isn't the only one in the war room on Saturday and Sunday.