100% agree.

What I love even more about that argument is that there's not an O-linemen that will be available worthy of the 5th pick when we draft anyways. Long will be gone and everybody else IMO will be a reach at 5.

So we won't begin to rebuild the O-line until round 2 anyways... It's the same thing.

Excellent point...why take a chance when you can pick the number 4 rated player in the draft.

Are you saying we will have the top pick next year? I doubt we have a shot at Oher next year. I sure hope you are correct coz we need him but more impostantly .... it will mean we had a terrible upcoming season and just maybe Clark cleans house.

I think it is 99% sure that Tebow will not come out next year. He is only a Jr. His family is certainly not rich, I met his parents before he was born (have not met him), but he has the type of character that will keep him in school. Plus, I'm not sure he will be a great NFL QB. But, maybe after 2 more years he will be that "Elway" type of guy???

I don't!!! Too, many question marks about him. To me he smacks of the David Carr's of the draft ... and there have been a number of them lately.

It's already been said, but Croyle fell to the 3rd. because of injury concerns not his ability. Now, granted had he demostrated outstanding ability he would have been taken earlier even with the injuries.

I agree 100%. I'll put forth the disclaimer ... I'm a Croyle homer ... but, I'm hoping that with a true OC (who maybe able to talk a little sense into Herm about turning his offensiveless offense up a notch or 2) that Croyle will begin to make some positive progress this year. With our offensiveless game planning last year no QB could have been successful ... teams knew what we were going to do and thus it was easy to stop us. Now, in addition to being a Croyle homer ... I hope he is successful, coz that means we have that peice of the puzzle and can patch other holes.

I affirm what you wrote. I heard the same thing.

Hey, maybe we can draft him this year but only get him next year when he comes out??? Kinda like a deposit. If he is that good sounds like an excellent idea to me!!!!

What's your plan if Croyle doesn't make it? Oh yeah, I forgot, we're the Chiefs. We'll trade for some old guy again.

And your plan if Ryan doesn't work out???

I really wish people would stop throwing up names like David Carr, he and Ryan are so far apart from each other in the type of players and prospects they are. Every QB rated high is not like every other one...compare Ryan to guys he is actually like. He is not a guy with nothing but a cannon arm who vaulted up due to scouts loving that which is what many of the guys who busted he gets compared to were/are.

Also guess what, Croyle fell because of injury history and not talent? He's still getting injured..anyone have confidence that guy can play a whole season...I certainly don't.

You are on Matt Ryan's dick like a cougar on an 80 year old oil magnate.

Take another one a few years later.....the Colts missed on Jeff George at #1 guess they shouldn't have taken Manning some years later eh? QB is a very important position you fire till you get it right because that one position means that much to your team.

Well you have to have a QB and they are going to get harder and harder to find. Atleast in the NFL mold because more and more college teams continue to go to the spread option look which is awful for pro game development.

I still contend that if Matt Ryan had a big arm he'd be the lock #1 pick and well arm strength is an overrated category for a QB as long as he doesn't have a horrible girly Pennington arm.

If Ryan is there, you have to take him. It's time to give this another shot.

That is utter nonsense. I'd take Sedrick Ellis or Glenn Dorsey over Ryan. I also like Brian Brohm almost as much as Ryan. Try to pay attention to what is being said instead of what you think is being said, dumbshit.

I think you need to face the fact that the odds are very, very much against Brodie Croyle ever playing a complete season in the NFL. A guy like Ryan or Brohm or Henne would at least be able to take a beating, and probably play better overall too. I sort of like Croyle too, I'm sure he's a nice kid, but come on. He has done nothing - NOTHING - to keep the Chiefs from drafting a quarterback.

funny. I'm pretty damned sure he would've been a great SAINTS qb, seeing as they drafted him.

Tongue in cheek Milkman! You know I respect your opinion. Just tongue in cheek stuff from Coogs. ;)

http://www.nfl.com/players/marcbulge...e?id=BUL162264


semantics, I still thought he would be a good QB when came up from West Viginia