Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5477289)

how do we actually know that thigpen cant? our offensive line was horrible, any one would be skittish when taking a THREE step drop and having defenders in your face before setting up

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5477282)

What about Thigpen's successes can you separate from the scheme? His mobility, I suppose. But beyond that... it just seems to me that he is completely a product of the scheme. I fear his terrible accuracy wouldn't take him far in a drop back system.

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 5477247)

Why can't he improve?

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5465323)

The problem is Zach that he can't play under center. Do you remember the Raider game? The Atlanta game?

They put him in the spread so that he could better read the defenses. He did a pretty good job of reading the defense in the first half of most of his starts but after halftime, the defenses adjusted and shut him down. The Chiefs lost like 6 or 7 games when they were leading at halftime because of this.

They also had trouble scoring in goal line situations (again, with Thigpen behind center). Part of this was because the right side of the offensive line (the power side) was complete and utter trash but the other part of the equation is that the defenses knew what was coming because Thigpen couldn't read them well enough to throw the ball on the goal line (nor does he possess the accuracy).

I don't think the Chiefs should dump him but it's going to take him years of practice to learn how to read and react under center and quite frankly, it may never happen.

That's not a guy I want starting for my football team.

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5477235)

The pro-Thigpen argument in this thread basically boils down to that it's possible that Thigpen might improve, so we should put our entire future on his shoulders. Oh, and math sucks, screw the odds.

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5477295)

You don't risk our future on "we don't know." Even if we draft a QB Thigpen will still be on the roster, and maybe he can become something. But you don't skip over a potential franchise QB because a late round pick might somehow become a good NFL quarterback when you have little reason to believe he will do so.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5477289)

how do we actually know that thigpen cant? our offensive line was horrible, any one would be skittish when taking a THREE step drop and having defenders in your face before setting up

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5477085)

Same could be said for the "anti-Thigpen" crowd too, I would guess. :shrug:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 5477300)

And drafting someone like Sanchez isn't risking our future?

It was great seeing Leinart play for the Cards in the Superbowl.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5477299)

so a rookie will come in right off and blow away the league? he won't need to improve? it's possible that he wont either

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5477294)

But one thing though. A lot of people shit on this "spread" thing, but aren't a lot of other teams basically running a variation of that? New England, Arizona, New Orleans, and even Indy at times?

This is just a question. No need to call me reeruned, or anything like that.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5477297)

I posted this last week to your query but you didn't respond:

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost....&postcount=115

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5477301)

I reference the abomination that was the first Raider game and the Falcon game.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5477304)

You are aware that Sanchez and Leinart are nothing alike right?

And the Leinart thing has been covered a million times it's to bad you failed to notice.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5477304)

You are aware that Sanchez and Leinart are nothing alike right?

And the Leinart thing has been covered a million times it's to bad you failed to notice.