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bowener 03-01-2009 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 5544295)
Now that some time has elapsed since Whitlock published Brian Waters' diary, I've come to a different conclusion about what ought to be done in the situation.

I think you work it out and keep him here. Or at least come to a point where it looks like you've worked it out and THEN move him to another team.

We've got so many holes in this roster, particularly if we're moving to 3-4 base defense, that it would be nice to not have to worry about the left side of the O-line at least for this year. Unlike LJ, I don't believe Waters would do anything less than his best if he's retained. These are all men and I'm sure they can work it out in a way that helps Waters move forward and the leadership save the reputation as a hard-ass organization.

Now, if Buffalo or someone else blew us away with an offer, that's a different story. But my hope is that they can work through it so that we have one less roster spot to fill this year. And with Cassel back there, I'm pretty sure Pioli's going to make sure the left side of the line is fortified.

BTW along those lines, whoever mentioned moving Albert from LT is crazy.

I think the best way for Haley to work it out with Waters is to address the team.

He should call them all in to the locker room, standing on a stool for all to see and hear. He should then apologize to Waters by stating:

"Last week I was slightly short with Brian. He came to visit on a busy day at the office, unannounced. Clearly this is an important juncture in all of our careers; I have the best in mind for all of us as a team, I reiterate, A TEAM. Now, after seeing the trade that Pioli and I ****ing hammered out out, I think it is time that you all (as he bends over pointing at his ass) Kiss my ass and thank me. No offense Pigpen, but I just got you all a ****ing
quality NFL starting QB. So you all can shut the **** up, sit down, read your play books, and do as we ****ing say, or you're all gone. Have a pleasant day, ****ers!!"

I dont know why, but in my imagination Haley loves saying '****' whenever he can. Like, "holy-****ing-shit, did they really just run the option?!? Fan-****ing-tastic, they really did just run the ****ing option! Un****ingbelieveable!!! Did you see this ****ing shit, Scott?!"

Deberg_1990 03-01-2009 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5544605)
No it doesn't.

Good guards can be found in the 4th round or later.

Wasnt Dave Szcott a 6th or 7th rounder?

ChiefsCountry 03-01-2009 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5544622)
Wasnt Dave Szcott a 6th or 7th rounder?

7th

Deberg_1990 03-01-2009 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5544624)
7th

Thank you. Case in point.

beavis 03-01-2009 07:02 PM

I think every one of their first round picks for the next decade would be fair value.

The Buddha 03-01-2009 07:21 PM

OTs don't seem to get much as far as draft picks.

Like Roaf... I'd see Waters being a 3 as well, cause he's not as good, but he's younger.

kcfanXIII 03-01-2009 07:32 PM

lee evans would be a good down field threat. i know alot are in favor of draft picks, but can we get a wr as talented as evans in the second?

DaneMcCloud 03-01-2009 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Buddha (Post 5544857)
OTs don't seem to get much as far as draft picks.

Like Roaf... I'd see Waters being a 3 as well, cause he's not as good, but he's younger.

Roaf was a left tackle and a 9 time Pro Bowler. He had much more value than a Pro Bowl left guard.

I'd guess a 5th would be the compensation for Waters.

milkman 03-01-2009 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5544898)
Roaf was a left tackle and a 9 time Pro Bowler. He had much more value than a Pro Bowl left guard.

I'd guess a 5th would be the compensation for Waters.

And Roaf was coming off an injury which led to question whether he could play at a high level.

Extra Point 03-01-2009 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 5544071)
Well, that would allow us to slide Albert to LG and draft one of the top LTs in this draft.

Well said.

milkman 03-01-2009 07:53 PM

:banghead:

FAX 03-01-2009 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5544898)
Roaf was a left tackle and a 9 time Pro Bowler. He had much more value than a Pro Bowl left guard.

I'd guess a 5th would be the compensation for Waters.

If it were anyone other than Pioli, I might agree, Mr. DaneMcCloud. But not in this case.

I can't see Pioli giving up Waters at his age and skill level for a 5.

FAX

DaneMcCloud 03-01-2009 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5544979)
If it were anyone other than Pioli, I might agree, Mr. DaneMcCloud. But not in this case.

I can't see Pioli giving up Waters at his age and skill level for a 5.

FAX

If he doesn't like him or sees him as a distraction, I'd disagree.

And please, I hope I'm dead wrong!

FAX 03-01-2009 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5544987)
If he doesn't like him or sees him as a distraction, I'd disagree.

And please, I hope I'm dead wrong!

Well, there is that.

I have no idea how the Waters deal will eventually work out, but I can promise you this; by the time training camp rolls around, anyone who isn't fully committed to giving 100% to this team will either be gone or benched - regardless of how many pro bowls they've attended or kittens they've rescued from a fire.

FAX

Halfcan 03-01-2009 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5543974)
Gonzalez and Waters for a #2 and #3?

LMAO Two all Pro's for that??

2 1st rounders more like it.


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