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Brock 03-25-2009 03:07 PM

I'm always amazed to hear people telling other Americans to take whatever crumbs they're offering and smile, especially when we just did a government bailout so that some executives get to keep their houses on the beach. Utterly backward thinking.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-25-2009 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jiveturkey (Post 5609616)
I'm sure that the recently released financial services sales dick will make a great steel worker. Maybe the drive-tru order takers that just got replaced by someone in India? I'm sure that they can hang steel.

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5609788)
Why don't you learn to do what they do, and then you won't be unemployed anymore.

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5609990)
I'm always amazed to hear people telling other Americans to take whatever crumbs they're offering and smile, especially when we just did a government bailout so that some executives get to keep their houses on the beach. Utterly backward thinking.

The labor chicken hawks are just like their NeoDouche brethren; a lot of talk, a lot of posturing, but no balls in all the world to actually do the things they threaten. Unless of course they send someone else to do it for them.

Sometimes I wish the world and the economy WOULD collapse, so I could go about killing idiots at my leisure.

Dartgod 03-25-2009 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5609962)
How can you assure me of anything? You don't know what's going on.

PS, the UAW just got finished "going backwards". They took a paycut.

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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 5609977)
The auto and airline unions all took pay cuts. Union leverage during economic difficulties gets significantly reduced. If the choice is between the company going under(or in some cases losing a job) the union will have to take a cut to keep the employment.

The teamsters at a certain local trucking company recently took a 10% paycut. Non-union workers for the same company also got their wages cut.

Iowanian 03-25-2009 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5609915)
In other words, "Stop being greedy. Lay down and take it in the ass".



I'm curious what you've read/heard/seen that leads you to believe these guys are being asked to spread their cheeks?

All I've heard is that the current agreement is about to expire, and they're not together on the new deal.


It is fact that the UAW had to take a pay cut, but I'll suggest the outragous packages they've leveraged over the companies the past few decades have partially put those same companies in the situations they currently face. I know quite a few guys in different construction related unions, and I can see why they think its a good thing for them as an employee. I've also worked as a "scab" while in HS on a site where an "operator" wouldn't get off of his machine to move something out of his way, and sat for 15 minutes until a laborer showed up to move it.

Hoover 03-25-2009 03:57 PM

I hear the unions are pissed that Carl got shit canned

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-25-2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 5610176)
I hear the unions are pissed that Carl got shit canned

As much of a tight ass as HE was, I very much doubt it.

Brock 03-25-2009 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 5610111)
I'm curious what you've read/heard/seen that leads you to believe these guys are being asked to spread their cheeks?

What makes others around here think this is just the union being greedy?

Which do you think is more likely, the company is trying to **** the workers out of some benefits and the union is saying "No", or the union is willing to put its workers through a strike because of unreasonable demands?

Mojo Jojo 03-25-2009 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5610251)
What makes others around here think this is just the union being greedy?

Which do you think is more likely, the company is trying to **** the workers out of some benefits and the union is saying "No", or the union is willing to put its workers through a strike because of unreasonable demands?

According to the news...the Union wants $2.00 more per hour in the new agreement. The current one expires on March 31.

KcFanNindy 03-25-2009 05:18 PM

sounds pretty fair to me, with the cost of inflation going up, fuel prices are on the rise, medical cost going up....hell a man or woman has to stay up with the tide....plus if you are above on a 6 inch piece of steel, 150 feet off the ground yea he/she should be paid!

Crush 03-25-2009 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 5610176)
I hear the unions are pissed that Carl got shit canned


Then they can go to hell. They can go to hell and die.

KCUnited 03-25-2009 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 5610076)
The teamsters at a certain local trucking company recently took a 10% paycut. Non-union workers for the same company also got their wages cut.

The union wasn't going to take that cut unless everyone did. I hope they insist on that when they negotiate their next increase.


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