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good lord... go talk to your doctor... there is as much bad advice as good in this thread

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Originally Posted by googlegoogle (Post 5736863)

I said calories and a good diet build muscle. I said you don't need high protein diets because you get most of the protein that you need from an American diet.

Most of the models and bodybuilder advertising those diets are using steroids in the magazines.

No, you didn't, as has been proven above. Regardless, I still posted multiple sources that say you're completely wrong. The less active you are, the less protein you need. Conversely, the more active you are, the more you need.

And what do models and bodybuilders have to do with anything? Just because they're on steroids doesn't mean that the high-protein diets are wrong for everyone else . . . the research proves that to be true. Conveniently ignored by you, though.

Still waiting on your height, weight and bf% numbers.

Because I know there is a community around here trying to lose weight:

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Remember when the FDA put out warnings about weight loss drugs in January?

They're back! With a very stern warning about liver damage and other problems due to Hydroxycut.

According to the FDA press release, "reports of serious health problems ranging from jaundice and elevated liver enzymes, an indicator of potential liver injury, to liver damage requiring liver transplant. One death due to liver failure has been reported to the FDA. Other health problems reported include seizures; cardiovascular disorders; and rhabdomyolysis, a type of muscle damage that can lead to other serious health problems such as kidney failure."

On the recall list are all Hydroxycut products except its cleanse and hoodia products.

If you have any of these Hydroxycut products on hand, you are urged to stop taking them, and to return the unused product to your point of purchase.

Hydroxycut has agreed to the recall and is updating its website with current information.

Further, the FDA urges consumers to continue reporting adverse events so they can track problems. You can do that at the FDA's MedWatch.

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Originally Posted by phillip (Post 5736905)

Actually you did say, and have said before, that any calories are fine for building muscle.

I meant high protein.

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Originally Posted by googlegoogle (Post 5741326)

I meant high protein.

So now you admit a higher amount of protein is more beneficial to muscle growth after months of being a douche?

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 5741355)

So now you admit a higher amount of protein is more beneficial to muscle growth after months of being a douche?

I have a feeling he's still being a douche and is saying that he meant you don't need high protein just normal diet. Personally, I'll trust the research that suggests getting high protein. Not too mention if the average person tracked their food intake they might not be getting the RDA of protein. I'm overweight and didn't have sufficient caloric intake and all three protein, fats, and carbs were low. I am trying to change and start getting closer to 2000 a day.

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 5741355)

So now you admit a higher amount of protein is more beneficial to muscle growth after months of being a douche?

i think he was always saying that you get plenty in your diet already and taking extra isn't going to help you bulk up.

which of course is preposterous, but I think that was his point.