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Sweet Daddy Hate 05-05-2009 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5742951)
Why do people think they are saying anything meaningful when they say this?
When Belichick kept with Brady had Brady failed Belichick would have failed. If Aikman was a flop then Johnson would have flopped. If Montana didn't turn out great Bill Walsh gets canned within 2 years.
Yes, Pioli's success is linked to Cassels performance
Duh.
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:spock: You DO realize which franchise in the NFL we're discussing here, yes? Two GM's, 40 years, give or take, yes?

Jethopper 05-05-2009 09:22 PM

Curry will lift you up on eagles winggggggggs.... bare you on the breath of dawn and make you shinnnnnnnne like the sun and hold you in the pallllllm of his handdddddd.

htismaqe 05-05-2009 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5742951)
Why do people think they are saying anything meaningful when they say this?
When Belichick kept with Brady had Brady failed Belichick would have failed. If Aikman was a flop then Johnson would have flopped. If Montana didn't turn out great Bill Walsh gets canned within 2 years.
Yes, Pioli's success is linked to Cassels performance
Duh.
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Because a GREAT majority of people here don't freaking believe it. That's why it's meaningful.

This fanbase watched not one QB fail but more than a DOZEN. And the GM was here for TWENTY YEARS. Chiefs fans don't yet have a good understanding of how the rest of the NFL actually works.

htismaqe 05-05-2009 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5742977)
:spock: You DO realize which franchise in the NFL we're discussing here, yes? Two GM's, 40 years, give or take, yes?

Exactly.

bdeg 05-05-2009 09:23 PM

whoa i thought that was an ultimate warrior quote for a second

htismaqe 05-05-2009 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg (Post 5742968)
well what you said was 'they were FULLY prepared to actually take him'
still don't understand what that means when they had the chance but chose not to
I agree with the last par though, just not the statement I was disputing.

I should have chosen my words more carefully.

The rest of the NFL actually BELIEVED that the Rams might take him. They didn't believe we would.

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-05-2009 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jethopper (Post 5742981)
Curry will lift you up on eagles winggggggggs.... bare you on the breath of dawn and make you shinnnnnnnne like the sun and hold you in the pallllllm of his handdddddd.

Didn't the Ultimate Warrior become "Sting"?

htismaqe 05-05-2009 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5742971)
Then why didn't they?

I don't know why they didn't, nor does it matter.

doomy3 05-05-2009 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by THISmaqe (Post 5742870)
Wrong.

I said it more than anyone else, and I NEVER said that we WOULD draft Sanchez.

I said that because Cassel hadn't signed a long-term deal we COULD draft Sanchez.

Don't sit here with hindsight and pretend that just because the outcome ended up being what you wanted that you actually knew what Pioli was thinkign. That's BS and you know it.

Well, of course we COULD have drafted Sanchez. We also COULD have drafted Michael Miller at #3. But as you said in a later post in this very thread, everyone in the NFL knew we weren't going to draft Sanchez, so why couldn't our board understand that?

And I don't and never have claimed to know what Pioli is/was thinking, but it doesn't take hindsight to see that this board was throwing out ridiculous hypotheticals about taking Sanchez that there was basically a 0% chance of happening.

And this thread is about Stafford anyway for some reason, who we actually did have a 0% chance of drafting.

Pioli Zombie 05-05-2009 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5742977)
:spock: You DO realize which franchise in the NFL we're discussing here, yes? Two GM's, 40 years, give or take, yes?

Clark doesn't seem to be like Lamar. He wouldn't let Pioli hang around for 20 years without anything to show for it.
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bdeg 05-05-2009 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by THISmaqe (Post 5742993)
I should have chosen my words more carefully.

The rest of the NFL actually BELIEVED that the Rams might take him. They didn't believe we would.

They may have wanted people to think that, but obviously the brainwashing wasn't enough to convince the jets. or anyone else interested enough to pay the price

Saccopoo 05-05-2009 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5742326)
If Sanchez and Stafford are not busts, and we know that Sanchez is going to start from day 1 this year while Detroit eases Stafford in to his role, do you really look forward to facing either of those guys when they hit 27 years old with all that NFL playing time under belt?

Opposed to what? Brady? Romo? Cutler?

For crying out loud, get off these guys jocks. They have done absolutely nothing. Nothing. And it's a team game. Cutler, for all his tools, never got the Doncos into the playoffs. All you people thinking that the Chiefs would be miraculously saved if they had drafted either Stafford or Sanchez are either delusional or stupid or both.

Neither of these guys were of an Elway caliber, and there were questions about their games - enough of them to make numerous GM's, including our Chiefs, make Cassel their primary target. Hell, McDaniels ruined an entire franchise and his future career in the league in an effort to get Cassel on his team. If Sanchez and Stafford were considered an elite franchise level quarterback like Elway or Peyton Manning, you would have seen a complete bidding war in order for all those QB starved teams in the league (and there are a lot of them). But they aren't. They were the best quarterbacks in a really weak QB draft class, and there is no guarantee of greatness with either one of them.

Seriously. Get over it. And while you are doing that, the Curry shit is getting annoying as well. Chiefs didn't draft him, not on our team, and no one here on the CP pimped him as hard as the guys who spent the better part of the last six months polishing Sanchez's knob.

If you can't get over your latent homo-erotic fixation of Sanchez, just go purchase a Jets jersey and be done with it.

doomy3 05-05-2009 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by THISmaqe (Post 5742993)
I should have chosen my words more carefully.

The rest of the NFL actually BELIEVED that the Rams might take him. They didn't believe we would.

Has it ever come out from anyone other than someone on TV trying to get more ratings that there were actual offers for the Rams' pick? I saw the same coverage as you, and yes, there was the Rams GM saying they were getting all these calls, but it is very odd that those calls completely stopped at 3. Especially when Seattle and Cleveland were rumored to be interested in Sanchez too.

htismaqe 05-05-2009 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5742999)
Well, of course we COULD have drafted Sanchez. We also COULD have drafted Michael Miller at #3. But as you said in a later post in this very thread, everyone in the NFL knew we weren't going to draft Sanchez, so why couldn't our board understand that?

And I don't and never have claimed to know what Pioli is/was thinking, but it doesn't take hindsight to see that this board was throwing out ridiculous hypotheticals about taking Sanchez that there was basically a 0% chance of happening.

And this thread is about Stafford anyway for some reason, who we actually did have a 0% chance of drafting.

Saying there was a 0% chance of us taking Sanchez before the draft ever took place IS claiming to know what Pioli was thinking.

Suggesting that nothing is set in stone until Cassel signs a contract isn't ridiculous at all, it's realistic.

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-05-2009 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5743002)
Clark doesn't seem to be like Lamar. He wouldn't let Pioli hang around for 20 years without anything to show for it.
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I hope you're right. 35 years of jack-shit is NOT good business.


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