The difference between Croyle and Brown is Brown actually makes plays. Yes he gets injured its becuz he goes all out and makes play. This is a damn good signing as everyone said we didn't really spend much on a guy who when he plays is awesome.

You mean where he runs behind the return guy for about 25 yards and then takes a dive about a foot behind his feet?

Super.

1) The Star is high as a kite.

2) Yes...another Safety. That's exactly what we needed.







































NOT!

That's why I put (injury wise) in my initial post.

I will have to disagree with you on the point about Mike Brown getting hurt because he goes all out. We are talking about the NFL here. Every player goes all out. You wouldn't make it through one game if you didn't. Mike Brown is INJURY PRONE. Nothing is going to change that.

It is still a good signing though.

Yea but didn't croyle miss a game because his back was sore? I mean theres a difference between a sore back and a torn ACL. Look at the Brown highlight tape he's a beast. Anyway understand why I love this signing i'm a Cornhusker fan and Brown was one of the best Husker players. Also I said before it'd be awesome if we'd sign Mike Brown. I also said we should trade for Cassel you can look it up. I will put my rep on this both will be very good players for the Chiefs.

Brown has missed 44 games over the last 5 seasons. That's 4 games less than 3 FULL seasons. Brown just can't stay healthy, it doesn't matter how big or small the injury is.

Good signing...but nothing to get too excited about. He won't hold up an entire season.

hey I like it! As long as it's not for too much. But we could definately use some quality experience back there.

Exactly.

Though I think sometimes players do take a liking to veterans and vice versa.
Ultimately... I'll take veterans who can lead by example. That can often be more influential than the "under the wing" approach.

Yeah, that Mike Vrabel's really set the tone for the youthful players.

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How do you know that? Because he didn't show up to optional workouts and because he said he was unhappy to be traded?

But did you hear from players that said he was inapproachable? Have there been any reports that he hasn't been working hard since going to camp? Have you heard any single player say that they are upset at him for not showing up?

You're speculating. Hines Ward held out several years ago from training camp. So did Tony Gonzalez. And these are two of the hardest working players in the game (and in the case of Tony G, we've seen specific cases of his mentourship). Players understand the difference between business and playing. I have yet to see any specific evidence to suggest that his skipping OTAs had any negative effect on the youth. In fact, it's probably a ridiculous suggestion to say so. We haven't seen any evidence of a positive influence either, but I guarantee that you will very soon.

Drafted players don't yet understand the politics or business of the NFL.
I'm sure no rookie working his way onto this roster will bat an eyelash at Vrabel exercising his right not to show up for voluntary OTA's.

Dude, it's June. Give it a rest. Are you really gonna hang your argument on statements from Sapp recounting his days with the Raiders? The Raiders. Losers. You can't say no veteran will mentor a rookie. Winning teams do, losing teams don't.

Thread over...

If he stays on the field he's better than both Page and Pollard......Page has become one of the most overrated Chiefs players, I'm not sure why.

Because he makes plays. Few others do.

But I agree. He probably is overrated by homers like myself.