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DaneMcCloud 08-16-2009 09:27 PM

I was impressed by the second team left and right guards, Colin Brown & Daryl Harris.

Harris played very well and could be the eventual replacement for Waters. It's only one preseason game but I liked what I saw quite a bit. He's 6'4, 300, so he's got ideal size. Colin Brown didn't play as "tall" as I expected him to play. I thought that at 6'7, he'd stand out like a sore thumb but he looked like Richardson when they were side by side. I saw no drop off in play when Brown replaced Goff, although Brown played against the 2nd & 3rd teamers.

I was pleasantly surprised (and initially, confused) about Richardson on the left side. His pass protection was very good and he did well in the run game. He wasn't nearly as effective on the right side and as someone suggested earlier, it's looking like he should be the primary backup to Albert. Whoda thunk? The Chiefs with three legitimate left tackles.

On defense, I was impressed with Corey Mays. He just appeared to be every where. Hali was better than "expected" but I wasn't expecting much. It's very clear that if the Chiefs can't find a reasonable solution at NT that teams will just run us over. Facing backs like Ray Rice, Darren McFadden, Rashard Mendenhall and so on really scares me at this point.

Dorsey, Jackson and Magee did their jobs but this defense won't be successful and complete without two edge pass rushers, a tough strong safety and most importantly, a nose tackle.

Also, I like Wright's potential and look forward to watching his progress in the coming weeks. Any other receiver not named Bowe, Bradley or Wright weren't impressive. And finally, our tight end position sucks ****ing ass. Woo-hoo!

Buehler445 08-16-2009 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5978408)
I was impressed by the second team left and right guards, Colin Brown & Daryl Harris.

Harris played very well and could be the eventual replacement for Waters. It's only one preseason game but I liked what I saw quite a bit. He's 6'4, 300, so he's got ideal size. Colin Brown didn't play as "tall" as I expected him to play. I thought that at 6'7, he'd stand out like a sore thumb but he looked like Richardson when they were side by side. I saw no drop off in play when Brown replaced Goff, although Brown played against the 2nd & 3rd teamers.

I was pleasantly surprised (and initially, confused) about Richardson on the left side. His pass protection was very good and he did well in the run game. He wasn't nearly as effective on the right side and as someone suggested earlier, it's looking like he should be the primary backup to Albert. Whoda thunk? The Chiefs with three legitimate left tackles.

On defense, I was impressed with Corey Mays. He just appeared to be every where. Hali was better than "expected" but I wasn't expecting much. It's very clear that if the Chiefs can't find a reasonable solution at NT that teams will just run us over. Facing backs like Ray Rice, Darren McFadden, Rashard Mendenhall and so on really scares me at this point.

Dorsey, Jackson and Magee did their jobs but this defense won't be successful and complete without two edge pass rushers, a tough strong safety and most importantly, a nose tackle.

Also, I like Wright's potential and look forward to watching his progress in the coming weeks. Any other receiver not named Bowe, Bradley or Wright weren't impressive. And finally, our tight end position sucks ****ing ass. Woo-hoo!

I was very disappointed Richardson didn't work out on the Right. I'll continue to argue that Taylor is the best option there, if Richardson is indeed out for RT.

DaneMcCloud 08-16-2009 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5978414)
I was very disappointed Richardson didn't work out on the Right. I'll continue to argue that Taylor is the best option there, if Richardson is indeed out for RT.

Well, I wouldn't use the word "disappointed".

He played well on the left side, so like Taylor, it just appears that neither is ideally suited for the right side.

If this were "my" football team, I'd stick Taylor at right tackle and leave him there for the remainder of training camp. I'd demote ScIntosh and tell Taylor that it's his job to lose.

ScIntosh will not improve. Taylor might.

Hammock Parties 08-16-2009 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5978430)
ScIntosh will not improve. Taylor might.

Did you see Mario Williams putting pressure on Cassel? I sure didn't, at least not when he went against McIntosh.

He still can't run block, but I think McIntosh has improved quite a bit in pass protection. That's the only reason he's out there at this point - Haley thinks he's good enough to start, because he can pass protect.

DaneMcCloud 08-16-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 5978434)
Did you see Mario Williams putting pressure on Cassel? I sure didn't, at least not when he went against McIntosh.

He still can't run block, but I think McIntosh has improved quite a bit in pass protection. That's the only reason he's out there at this point - Haley thinks he's good enough to start, because he can pass protect.

He ****ing sucks and so does Goff.

You were absolutely, unequivocally wrong about Goff.

Hammock Parties 08-16-2009 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5978440)
He ****ing sucks and so does Goff.

You were absolutely, unequivocally wrong about Goff.

ROFL

One game certainly proves it.

milkman 08-19-2009 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5978408)
I was impressed by the second team left and right guards, Colin Brown & Daryl Harris.

Harris played very well and could be the eventual replacement for Waters. It's only one preseason game but I liked what I saw quite a bit. He's 6'4, 300, so he's got ideal size. Colin Brown didn't play as "tall" as I expected him to play. I thought that at 6'7, he'd stand out like a sore thumb but he looked like Richardson when they were side by side. I saw no drop off in play when Brown replaced Goff, although Brown played against the 2nd & 3rd teamers.

Just finished rewatching the game, and, yes, I was impressed with the play of both Brown and Harris.

They were both quicker than the guys they replaced, getting out and pulling, and getting into position on a screen.
They handled their blocking assignments without getting double team help in pass protect.
As I noted elsewhere, Brown get clowned on one play in which he gave up a sack, but that was his only real hiccup.

Harris was just flat out impressive for an UDRFA.

Also, in watching the inteerior linemen, I saw that Niswanger did a better job of keeping his backside down at the snap, but he was still slow getting out of his stance and getting up and into position to bolck.
Unfortunately, he is still (marginally) better than Eric Ghiaciuc.

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I was pleasantly surprised (and initially, confused) about Richardson on the left side. His pass protection was very good and he did well in the run game. He wasn't nearly as effective on the right side and as someone suggested earlier, it's looking like he should be the primary backup to Albert. Whoda thunk? The Chiefs with three legitimate left tackles.
Agreed, though it appears he's going to be given the chance to win the job at RT.

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On defense, I was impressed with Corey Mays. He just appeared to be every where. Hali was better than "expected" but I wasn't expecting much. It's very clear that if the Chiefs can't find a reasonable solution at NT that teams will just run us over. Facing backs like Ray Rice, Darren McFadden, Rashard Mendenhall and so on really scares me at this point.

Dorsey, Jackson and Magee did their jobs but this defense won't be successful and complete without two edge pass rushers, a tough strong safety and most importantly, a nose tackle.

Also, I like Wright's potential and look forward to watching his progress in the coming weeks. Any other receiver not named Bowe, Bradley or Wright weren't impressive. And finally, our tight end position sucks ****ing ass. Woo-hoo!
Corey Mays was impressive, and I just can't see how there is any way that Zach Thomas should be starting ahead of him when he finally makes his way out of the tub.

Thomas was clearly on the decline when he was released by the Dolphins, and he wasn't all that good in the Cowboys 34 last year.

DJ showed more consistency in his play in this game than in any game that I can remember.
This scheme appears to be a good fit for him, though I don't know that he will ever play up to his draft position.

Hali was better than expected, but he has a long way to go, and Andy Studebaker looks quicker, faster, more athletic, and seems to have adjusted far more qucikly to the transiton from DE than Hali, not only outshining Hali as a pass rusher, but far more disciplined in run defense, and more fluid in dropping back in pass coverage, though there's still more work there.
I won't be the least bit surprised if he replaces Hali in the starting lineup by the start of the season.

With Dorsey, Jackson, and Magee, it appears we have a solid DE rotation, but Alex Boone was nearly as ineffective at DE as Ron Edwards was at NT.
Tank Tyler outplayed Edwards with the second unit, and should be given an opportunity to line up with the first team
He won't be the answer there, but he doesn't appear to be nearly as big a question.

Our situation at WR appearss to be a fluid situation and a continuing work in progress.

milkman 08-19-2009 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 5978434)
Did you see Mario Williams putting pressure on Cassel? I sure didn't, at least not when he went against McIntosh.

He still can't run block, but I think McIntosh has improved quite a bit in pass protection. That's the only reason he's out there at this point - Haley thinks he's good enough to start, because he can pass protect.

Apparently Haley (and Bill Muir) agree with most of the rest of us.

Hammock Parties 08-19-2009 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5984519)
Apparently Haley (and Bill Muir) agree with most of the rest of us.

McIntosh is still #1.

milkman 08-19-2009 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 5984550)
McIntosh is still #1.

On the depth chart that means absolutely nothing at this point in time.

Barry Richardson is getting snaps with the first team this week, and that's all that matters.

Hammock Parties 08-19-2009 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5984568)
On the depth chart that means absolutely nothing at this point in time.

Barry Richardson is getting snaps with the first team this week, and that's all that matters.

I'm guessing you don't feel the same way about Devard Darling.

milkman 08-19-2009 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 5984571)
I'm guessing you don't feel the same way about Devard Darling.

You'd guess wrong.

Hammock Parties 08-19-2009 07:54 AM

Well, at least you're consistent.

I for one will be very surprised if either line up as starters.

milkman 08-19-2009 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 5984580)
Well, at least you're consistent.

I for one will be very surprised if either line up as starters.

So would I.

Here's the difference, though.

Bowe will play his way back to the first team because he's far more talented that Darling.
He just need to show the work for Haley, and he appears to have gotten the message.

Richardson will play his way back to the second team unless the light comes on and he suddenly gets it, because, quite frankly, his play at RT has been even less impressive that McInSuck's.

Buehler445 08-19-2009 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5978430)
Well, I wouldn't use the word "disappointed".

He played well on the left side, so like Taylor, it just appears that neither is ideally suited for the right side.

If this were "my" football team, I'd stick Taylor at right tackle and leave him there for the remainder of training camp. I'd demote ScIntosh and tell Taylor that it's his job to lose.

ScIntosh will not improve. Taylor might.

I've been saying that since LAST offseason. Or maybe it was after he came in for Albert when he was hurt.

Either way, a long ****ing time.

Nice analysis milkman. Much appreciated.
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