what drives me crazy is people saying that Thigpen deserves something for his play last year...like the franchise owes him something.


Central to Halioli's regime is the clearly articulated belief that no one deserves shit, especially on a 2-14 team.

Waters thought he deserved something and Halioli DP'd him in an Arrowhead hallway. Guy hasn't spoken a word since.

i havent said shit about where he should be depth wise for sure since camp started. i just dont feel comfortable with croyle even on this team

i dont think the franchise owes him anything, if it's between him and croyle the franchise owes ITSELF thigpen as the backup. croyle cant make it through a half of real football

You've never had shiite to say to me Can, but i gotta give credit where due...

LMAOLMAOLMAO

And?

He will be. A franchise QB is supposed to win Championships. Not just be OK.

If Bernard Pollard isn't the special teams starter instead of the starter on defense it'll say alot about the coaching staff.

i assumed this board was familiar with the the abbreviation...if it were WPI I'd have to spell it out and draw pictures

I would have too, but you never know with this wildcat shit. I mean FFS, the Dolphins spent a ****ing second rounder on Pat ****ing White.

PAT WHITE.
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what about the rest of the TEAM? dont they have something to do with it? the guy cant throw it, catch it, run it, kick it, AND tackle the opposing offensive players. sorry but that statement is ignorant

Franchise QB's raise the level of play around them.

There's a reason why guys like Marino are discussed in a different class than Montana, Aikman, Elway, etc.

Maybe someday we can get all giddy about Cassel being on a "greatest QB that's never won the big game" list.

how would a qb raise the level of the DEFENSE?

What makes Cassel so much better than Thigpen anyway? I realize he is better but most people act like he is the next Brady. He had 21 tds last year when brady had 50 with the same team the year before. He won 11 games when Brady didn't loose one the year before!! I think he is half the Qb that Brady is. We are not as stable at Qb that everyone acts like we are!!

By keeping them off the field?

Ask Peyton Manning, he won a championship with a terrible defense.

*yawn*. Marino doesn't make tackles or run the ball so thats pretty absurd. By your definition then Sanchez isn't a franchise QB either.

to be fair that defense stepped up in the playoffs when sanders came back. AND peyton had a horrible postseason that year. but i'm sure you remember that it just doesnt help your argument so you left it out. hell you have said that yourself IIRC