He has dish network....

He has helped you out quite a bit this year - gave you the franchise QB for nothing, now a stud WR. Patriots reign on the AFC East looks to be ending.

You can still cut/trade the one who sucks the penis after year 1 and be out 14.

YES i do, what would make you think otherwise looking at pioli/patriots past history, and yeah if we cut him or he doesnt make the performance clauses, of which there are probably some, it is the SAME as if we had franchised him 2x. So whats the big deal that we signed him long term? The financial hit is the same either way.

:hmmm:

Then what?

thats true hamas, BUT does ANYONE think we gave up a 2nd rounder for one year? How many 2nd round picks have been cut after their 1st season?

Name your terms.

I'm betting he'll still be here in 2011 even if he doesn't perform.

And how many have been cut after 2 as a starting QB?

sorry i dont bet on anything. Again what in his, pioli, history says that you are making a good assumption?


If you cant see that signing him long term was a good business decision then you have some problems.


1: We could give him a 2 year try out for 28 million on 2 franchise tags. After those 2 years he could walk, OR We could sign him to a new FAT contract with a FAT signing bonus
2: We could sign him to a 5 year 60 million deal with 28 million guaranteed. If after 2 years he's not living up to expectations we can cut him and not spend ANY MORE THAN WE WOULD HAVE ANYWAY. OR if he is playing up to expectations KEEP HIM on the contract that by that time will be a VERY team friendly deal.


Now i fully expect you to do EXACTLY what you bitch about from others and sit there with fingers in your ears screaming LALALALALALA
But if you could look at things objectively maybe you would see.

Talk about objectivity...

Do us all a favor.

List all QB's that were acquired via trade or draft using a 2nd round pick or higher that were cut after 2 years starting for the team that drafted/traded for them.

I'll wait.

Again: what does that have to do with ANYTHING?

Pioli just made a good business decision. If you cant see that then i dont know what else to say except sorry.

And where was i wrong about us cutting him and not being out anything more than we would have been if we cut him after 2 years?

Bring in a QB who can play.

being fair we dont know for sure yet if we have one that can do that for us or not. Any thoughts different than that are just assumptions at this point.

While I agree with your assesment of Goff, he was a step up from Adrian Jones and was known as an all effort guy.

I still maintain there were too many holes and not enough draft picks. And as for FA's who did they miss on? It is not easy to get top FA talent when you sit at the bottom.

Haley and Pioli are learning first hand about the OL problems so I will be interested to see how they address it this coming off-season.

THEN WHY THE **** DID WE SIGN HIM FOR 6 ****ING YEARS!!